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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:50 PM
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White House May Sidestep Dems on Bolton
By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
30 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Frustrated by Senate Democrats, the White House hinted Monday that President Bush may act soon to sidestep Congress and install embattled nominee John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations on a temporary basis.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Bush has used his power for temporary appointments when "he has to get people in place that have waited far too long to get about doing their business." He said that "sometimes there's come a point" when Bush has decided he needs to act.

Bolton's nomination has been stalled for months. Critics say Bolton, who has been accused of mistreating subordinates and who has been openly skeptical about the U.N., would hurt U.S. efforts to work with other countries on global matters. The administration says the tough-talking Bolton is ideally suited to lead an effort to overhaul the U.N. bureaucracy and make it more accountable.

Bush could put Bolton on the job by exercising his authority to make a recess appointment, an avenue available to the president when Congress is in recess. Lawmakers are expected to leave Friday for a summer recess and not return until Sept. 7.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050725/ap_on_go_pr_wh/un_ambassador
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:52 PM
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1. Yes, why not put a man who may have blown a CIA covert operation
in the UN? Has everyone read about our new Commander-in-Chief state that has replaced the democracy we once had?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:52 PM
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2. That would be almost cute
Are these fuckers nuts or what? Yo, Bush, newsflash: it ain't 9/12/2001. Shit like this don't fly no more.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:54 PM
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3. I don't think so! check this link
www.thewashingtonnote.com


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:56 PM
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5. "...or if he was just a victim of Chris Dodd's pro-Cuba fetish "
That line needs to be noted
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:07 PM
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12. But I knew he would do it as soon as I saw that story
He likes to prove that when people say he won't dare, he dares. I think Bolton's recess appointment was dead until these stories about Bolton's recess appointment being dead started appearing yesterday. He has the psychology of a 6th grade bully.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:10 PM
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17. I'd believe Clemons before I would sources on CNN, MSNBC, WaPo or the WH
He's one of the very best.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:39 PM
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34. Thanks, so
bush can't appoint bolton("temporarily") because of this?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:26 PM
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39. Bolton may have disqualified himself by not disclosing that he'd testified
...(V)arious Senators may request the State Department to clarify whether or not Mr. Bolton met with the grand jury and/or its investigators. If he did so, they may ask when this took place.

This disclosure is a requirement of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which...is still tasked with maintaing "the record" on John Bolton so as to inform the whole Senate.


:headbang:
rocknation

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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:55 PM
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4. Of Course... They Are Snakes!
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:58 PM
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6. Bush thinks he is immune from all of this
Bush and Cheney are convinced that they are going to get away with this!
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:04 PM
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11. "hold the UN more accountable"
That is so laughable. What about holding their administration accountable?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:14 PM
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32. You Said it, "pimpbot!"
"Hold *them* accountable!" It's un-fricked-believeable, huh.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:23 PM
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24. sadly,
most Dems I know think the same thing. Nobody even expects justice or fairness anymore. Corruption is the status quo, and people are resigned to these fuckers getting away with everything.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:59 PM
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7. recess appointment
we've all known that he was going to do this...:grr:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:01 PM
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8. "far too long to get about doing their business" so bush decides to act.
Well, that explains why he acted so rapidly in seeking to learn the identity of the CIA agent/classified info leak.

Do these people ever listen to themselves? :eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:20 PM
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49. never
its only about doing the business of the bushies and hallibuton aka cheney. :puke:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:03 PM
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9. I'm actually inclined to hope Shrub DOES the absentee appointment!
I think it would be WORSE for the Admin. if he had the job for hmmm. a month or two, and had to stop down becaue of inditments!

It's sad, but I don't think there's much we can do about the image of theUS anymore. As long as Shrub keeps doing stupid things, I say let him continue to destroy our image, and his own along with it!

Let them all fry together!!!!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:10 PM
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16. My sentiments exactly, napi21!
I'm also hoping he does the recess appointment--one MORE thing to bite him in the ass a few months from now!
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:19 PM
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19. I agree. Why should DC get all the good frogmarches?
It would be nice to have one in New York as well.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:03 PM
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10. And if Bolton is a target???
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:07 PM
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13. WHY Bolton?? I mean what goods does this guy have on Bush?
I have never seen them so hot to get someone in a position. There is something really really ugly going on, and I think Bolton has something to do with it. I think this is their covert attempt to completely dismantle or destroy the UN. Bolton is their "nuclear option" when it comes to destroying the UN.

I just wonder why him???
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:22 PM
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23. They need somebody to get the war started with Iran... nt
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:14 PM
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31. I agree, and that would be the ultimate distraction from Treasongate
(or Bill Press called it last week,"Blossomgate".)

Anyone with half a brain could see that he'd be trying to get Bolton in before he is implicated in this scandal as well. And unfortunately, I don't think they care if there's a backlash or not; they'll just come out with bigger propaganda guns to blow away the opposition to their domination fetish.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:41 PM
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35. "blossomgate" is funny but it's
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 05:41 PM by zidzi
too good for rove, the Traitor!

Turdgate might do!
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:38 PM
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44. Yeah, it WAS "Turdgate"! Thanks for the correction
and you're right - "Blossomgate" is much too flattering and I shouldn't misquote Bill Press, either.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:28 PM
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43. Why Bolton? Bush owes Bolton... big time... for helping him win/steal
the 2000 election. Bolton was the guy pounding on the door demanding they stop the vote count...and they did...never to be started again
Anyway, that is just one of the many reasons and there are many...some probably so sinister...we'll never know. I'll bet Fitzgerald will uncover a few.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:08 PM
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14. Well, if, as I suspect,
those Bolton documents the WH won't release include the name Valerie Plame, Bush and his handlers could pay a real political price for ramrodding him into office like that without complying with the Senate's demand that they release those documents.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:09 PM
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15. Are we a "Democracy" anymore?
or do we function as the subjects of an imperial monarch?

What is it?
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:21 PM
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22. Not as far as Bush is concerned
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:17 PM
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18. Just try it, asshole
Then, when his involvement in traitorgate comes you, that'll be another black eye for you.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:20 PM
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20. Something big is coming down
I really believe these rat bastards know they're going to get caught redhanded and they want to run a scorched earth policy to fuck everybody.
they've got their orc holes ready to scurry into as soon as the shit starts, the chimp is getting the hell out of dodge, keep your eyes wide open.
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Todd B Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:21 PM
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21. I guess Bushco can't put off the build up to Iran any longer, huh? What w
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Bush has used his power for temporary appointments when "he has to get people in place that have waited far too long to get about doing their business." He said that "sometimes there's come a point" when Bush has decided he needs to act.

I guess Bushco can't put off the build up to Iran any longer, huh? What with all the sagging poll numbers and distrust of his administration - he has to do something to increase jingoism and blind faith again.

No one is stopping Bolton from being voted on except for Bush - if the White House would just release the documents we would be all done with this matter.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:43 PM
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25. BOLTON BACKLASH MAY DOOM ROBERTS!
BOLTON BACKLASH MAY DOOM ROBERTS!


*doesn't understand the effects one stupid move on his part may have on other parts of the government........appoint Bolton and Roberts may get raked over the coals.....Which I hope our Senators have the courage to do...........don't mess with Congress!
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:53 PM
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38. not necessarily take out on Roberts. More likely to doom the dummy because
congress dems will be so mad.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:09 PM
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26. A 'recess appointment' would be an ABUSE and unConstitutional, imho.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 04:12 PM by TahitiNut
The Constitutional provision for a 'recess appointment' VERY CLEARLY requires that the VACANCY occur during a recess. The Founders DID NOT envision or design this provision as a way of getting around the 'advise and consent' role of a Senate in session!

That such an abomination and abuse of Executive (unauthorized!) power is allowed to occur, no matter what the fucking Party of the President or Congress might be, is a fucking failure of Congress to do their duty and hold the Executive responsible for acting within the bounds of the Constitution! In my opinion, such an abuse of power is Impeachable, no matter whether it's Clinton or Bush(tard).

All these goddamn hypocritical, cowardly 'strict constructionists' who don't act on this as an unconscionable violation of the limits of Constitutional authority should FOAD!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:24 PM
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27. Go ahead.. DO it.. and then we'll all laugh as he's removed
in disgrace after he's indicted on conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges for the Plame case.

That would certainly instill confidence in our foreign allies, now wouldn' it? That our "feckless leader" would dare to appoint someone (behind the congress' back) to such a high position, when he KNEW that the guy was as dirty as an 6 yr old boy's sneaker.:)
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:34 PM
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28. Haha, the other ambassadors will be
Giving him wedgies and swirlies because they'll know he has zero power. Snicker. He'd probably going to be testifying in a lengthy treason trial too.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:58 PM
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29. Just another foist job by the bfee on a docile scared shitless
jesus loving public. Want to get away with murder? Just mention 9/11 abortion and gay marriage, you get a free pass.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:12 PM
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30. I was surprised
* didn't give Bolton the recess appointment over the July 4th holiday. Anyone know why he didn't? I was really thinking (hoping) the Bolton issue had gone away...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:08 PM
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48. Someone here said it had to be a RECESS not a holiday like the 4th

I was wondering the same thing myself.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:24 PM
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33. The Veruca Salt school of government
Why does this president remind me of that spoiled brat in the Willy Wonka movie? The girl who gets anything she wants from her rich daddy regardless of the consequences.

Bush is going to appoint Bolton because he wants a pony... NOW!

He better be careful, because the pony may turn around and kick that spoiled rich kid president right in the nuts.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:44 PM
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36. Go ahead, Georgie-porgie, make my day!.....
...That will allow Bolton to become yet another high-ranking NeCon to have to serve a prison sentence for outing Ms. Plame and destroying her global network.

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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:49 PM
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37. How much clout would Bolton have in the UN anyway?
His word is worth nothing and his actions would be viewed with suspicion by all other members. The rest of the world is not going to be duped by him. It's unfortunate that the most damage he could do is to the US itself.
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rrrevolution Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:40 PM
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40. Mark it down, 4 big names in the Plame Investigation --
John Bolton
Jeff Gannon
Colin Powell
Karen Hughes

Most likely Bolton got the info on Valerie Plame from the intercepts he received from NSA. Gannon was allowed to read the classified docs to do a hatchet job on Wilson in an interview early on.

Powell is still irritated about being set up at the UN presentation with phony evidence. Powell and Hughes will not risk prison time to keep Bush out of hot water.

Just hope Fitzgerald is taking plenty of precautions regarding his personal safety since the Bush/Rove/Cheney neo-con club is not about to roll over for him.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:01 PM
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41. If that AWOL sonofabitch does this, he's looking for trouble big time
This would be a monumental mistake on his part.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:14 PM
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42. Hey, Dumbya! Remember all the "political capital" you had?
IT'S FUCKING GONE! The American people are finally waking up and starting to HATE your lying, theo-con ass! Don't try to pull too much shit, asswipe. You don't have any "capital" to lose right now.

George W. Bush; God's own turd.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:40 PM
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45. so much for an up-er-down vote. fucking moran. (nt)
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:51 PM
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46. ShockediSay
eom
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:05 PM
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47. let them, it will only make bigger fools of them and Bolton will be an ...
embarrassment to an already embarrassing administration.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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50. kick
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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51. Bush may bypass Senate and appoint Bolton to UN
Edited on Tue Jul-26-05 08:30 PM by jefferson_dem
Bush may bypass Senate and appoint Bolton to UN
By Adam Entous
Mon Jul 25, 6:41 PM ET

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House signaled on Monday that President Bush may bypass the Senate and appoint John Bolton, his embattled nominee for U.N. ambassador, to the post temporarily as hope faded for a Senate vote on the nomination.

Congressional aides said a recess appointment could be announced as early as Friday night, immediately after the Senate is scheduled to adjourn for the monthlong August break. A recess appointment would allow Bolton to take up the U.N. post but he would serve only until January 2007.

The nomination of the blunt-spoken conservative has been held up by accusations he tried to manipulate intelligence and intimidated intelligence analysts to support his hawkish views in his post as the top U.S. diplomat for arms control.

Some critics have also seized on reports he may have been involved in leaking the identity of a CIA operative, Valerie Plame, but a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Bolton had neither testified nor been asked to do so before the grand jury investigating the leak.

<SNIP>

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050725/pl_nm/bush_bolton_dc_3
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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52. Then the people must wage a general strike and protest
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ScotTissue Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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59. I can't help but laugh.
I hate what the Re Pubes are doing to this country as much as anyone does. And I think Jim Bolton or whatever his name is a dumb, macho, mustachio'd piece of excremental filth.

But the idea that the masses of the American people are going to rise in a General Strike in protest against an ambassador to the UN is so frigging silly.

The population of the US would rise up in a General Strike (European style) if Doritos were out-lawed.

MAYBE.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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53. Never one to miss an opportunity to subvert the democratic process!
I despise him more than I did this morning, no mean feat, as I cannot stand the air he breathes, the way he looks, & especially the way he sounds! Now I hate the carbon upon which his rotten little self is built.

Down with *!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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54. * does inspire
Vitrol to the INth degree :grr:

I love the first poster's idea..what if there were massive strikes to protest the steamrolling tactics of the rove machine?

Shut the USA DOWN! :patriot:
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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55.  Every day in every way he irritates me more and more. (nt)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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56. wow, what a not suprise-FLIP FLOP asshole mrbush is
So now he is appointing people involved with CIA leaks? bah.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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57. Wait! Don't RWers always say he deserves a vote?
Why is Bush denying him his vote?

Or do they only mean a YES vote?
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 09:12 PM
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58. Hey, just another Bushee to Impeach

maybe we can give them a group rate
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