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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:54 PM
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State Dept. Says Bolton Was Interviewed

State Dept. Says Bolton Was Interviewed

By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

John Bolton, the nominee for U.N. ambassador, inaccurately told Congress he had not been interviewed or testified in any investigation over the past five years, the State Department said Thursday, responding to a Democratic critic.

Bolton was interviewed by the State Department inspector general as part of a joint investigation with the Central Intelligence Agency related to Iraqi attempts to buy nuclear materials from Niger, State Department spokesman Noel Clay said.

When Bolton filled out a Senate questionnaire in connection with his nomination, "he didn't recall being interviewed by the State Department's inspector general. Therefore, his form, as submitted, was inaccurate," Clay said. "He will correct it."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050729/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak_bolton;_ylt=Agv.xGKkDcLLnUHj4hBDyqes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:56 PM
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1. "i don't recall"
He'll get a medal for that.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:14 AM
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84. He's obviously too absent minded for the job but a medal hell yes
:shrug:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:56 PM
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2. Lying Sack of Republican Scum
I am sick of these bastards who shit on our system of government for their own personal mental trip.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:57 PM
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3. I just finished reading a post which said the State Dept. said Bolton said
he WASN'T interviewed. Are these people so busy they can't remember when they go before a grand jury? If so, they need more help.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:06 PM
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10. Get these harried people some interns. n/t
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:51 PM
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59. it's not too safe for interns these days
remember the intern killed (?) in Joe Scarboroughs office? How about the intern that was connected to Condit? THey never found her murderer did they?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:10 AM
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66. LOL!
Monica, where are you? Your country needs you.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:59 PM
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4. Geeeezus
"he didn't recall being interviewed by the State Department's inspector general..."

LIAR LIAR pants on fire!
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:03 PM
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5. This is interesting.
My recollection was that MSNBC issued a report that Bolton had testified before Fitzgerald's grand jury.

This story is saying that Bolton was interviewed in connection with a joint State Department/CIA investigation into the Niger uranium purchase hoax.

I wonder if MSNBC is sticking with its report? Is Bolton figuring in two investigations.

Also, what is this State Department/CIA investigation into the Niger uranium deal all about? I don't recall hearing anything about it before now. Anyone know anything about all this?
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:06 PM
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8. This would imply
he did not appear before the GJ, so it would be, indeed, interesting to see how MSNBC responds. They need to do it ASAP if his recess appointment can be averted (on the other hand, why would it stop Bush even if he lied more than once?)
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:06 PM
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9. Here's the MSNBC reference:
MSNBC reports to TWN that its source on Bolton being interviewed by the Valerie Plame Wilson grand jury "is unimpeachable."

MSNBC is standing "firmly" by its story -- and is shirking off the fact that other networks and major news organizations have been unable to confirm what MSNBC feels is a solid fact.

CNN has not yet responded to TWN on the White House source who allegedly stated that the Bolton report "was erroneous."

There are now rumblings, given what has been reported in the media, that various Senators may request the State Department to clarify whether or not Mr. Bolton met with the grand jury and/or its investigators. If he did so, they may ask when this took place.

This disclosure is a requirement of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which while Bolton's nomination has passed through the Committee without support, is still tasked with maintaing "the record" on John Bolton so as to inform the whole Senate.

<http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000802.html>
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:11 PM
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14. Hope it's not CBS all over again
and they didn't hear it from "unimpeachable" Rove who was making sure that the other "omission" gets lost in the transaction while everyone is discussing how MSNBC got it all wrong...
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:16 PM
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18. No, here's the MSNBC Transcript from a David Schuster
Report on Hardball:

DAVID SHUSTER, NBC CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A witness who testified at the grand jury and lawyers for other witnesses say the memo was written in July of 2003, identified Valerie Wilson, also known as Valerie Plame, as a CIA officer, and cited her in a paragraph marked S for sensitive.

According to lawyers, former Secretary of State Colin Powell and undersecretaries, including John Bolton, gave testimony about this memo. And a lawyer for one State Department official says his client testified that, as President Bush was flying to Africa on Air Force One two years ago, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer could be seen reading the document on board.

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8666472/>
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:19 PM
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19. Ever heard of "unimpeachable" lawyers? :)
Hope it's true, and he did lie even more than is apparent now.
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:39 PM
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32. Maybe he's the forger n/t
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:09 PM
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96. Chalabi is a forger, counterfeiter, faker , crook and huge fan of war
He was available.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:49 PM
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27. State Department: Bolton erred on report
The Associated Press
Updated: 9:10 p.m. ET July 28, 2005

WASHINGTON - John Bolton, the nominee for U.N. ambassador, inaccurately told Congress he had not been interviewed or testified in any investigation over the past five years, the State Department said Thursday, responding to a Democratic critic.

Bolton was interviewed by the State Department inspector general as part of a joint investigation with the Central Intelligence Agency related to Iraqi attempts to buy nuclear materials from Niger, State Department spokesman Noel Clay said. <snip>

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8745789/

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:45 PM
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33. Seems He May Have DOUBLY Lied????
He was involved and questioned in TWO investigations? This on is about the IG investigation, but he ALSO apparently testified in the Plame/CIA one too...I think.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:52 PM
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60. Evidently, State Dept issued a report for Chris Matthews
to read on Hard Ball last night. I heard it. It was a complete redaction from what they had previously stated!!! Now this?????? They've told SO MANY LIES, they can't keep up!! Gotta have a good memory to be a good liar my Daddy always told me!!:crazy:
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:04 PM
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6. We're Sorry....We Made A Mistake
Lying Sacks of Shit! Bolton just forgot something so insignificant as this. He'll correct that right away.

Makes you have real confidence in just about everything that comes out of this guy. Oh well....Shrub is going to appoint him anyways. Not like he has to answer to anybody.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:13 PM
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15. Being Republican means never saying you're sorry
He was "inaccurate." Then he said, "Bite me." He may have mis-spoken, or he could have been out of the loop, but he is in no way accountable for your misunderstanding.

I'll eat my mouse if any corporate television nitwork makes him say he's sorry.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:05 PM
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7. They are incapable of telling the truth on anything, every last one of
them. Sure hope this puts a crimp in the recess appointment, but it probably won't, they've lowered the bar for lying so many times it probably won't make a bit of difference.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:07 PM
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11. He LIED!
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:08 PM
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12. Bolton can't remember that he testified, Robert's can't remember
if he ever joined or paid dues to the FS and chimpy can't remember where he put his last bottle of Jack.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:14 PM
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16. And Scotty can't remember the difference between a finger and thumb. n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:14 AM
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88. And Rumsfield can't remember where all those WMD are?
And Bush can't remember where he was for about two dozen years!
He even thinks/hallucinates that he wasn't AWOL from the NG.
Did he forget why we went to war too?
Isn't it reassuring to know that we the people are in such caring/capable/brilliant hands? No wonder I can't sleep at night.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:15 PM
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97. Yes'm, he forgot that, too!
Did he forget why we went to war too?

Saddam is a bad man. Uh, he gasses his own people.
SADDAM HAS NUKULAR WEAPONS AND LOOK OUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MUSHROOM CLOUD OVER AN AMERICAN CITY. WE'VE GOT TO GET HIM!!!!

Saddam has a nuclear weapons program.

The people of Iraq are better off. (?)

Freedom is blossoming forth all over Iraq. People are voting and breathing in the democracy.

god wanted me to do it.

Tenet made me. Tenet lied.

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:08 PM
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93. Condi plum forgot that the yellow cake claims were
false. *slaps forehead*

http://www.msnbc.com/news/973028.asp?cp1=1

MR. RUSSERT: But when you say that no one in our circles, and it was maybe down in the bowels of the Intelligence Agency, a month after that appearance, you said this, “The CIA cleared the speech in its entirety.”
And then your top deputy, Stephen Hadley, on July 23, said this.
“Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley told reporters that he received two memos from the CIA in October that cast doubt on intelligence reports that Iraq had sough to buy uranium from Niger to use in developing nuclear weapons. Both memos were also sent to chief speechwriter Michael Gerson and one was sent to national security adviser, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, Hadley said.”
And George Tenet called Mr. Hadley directly and put—issued a warning on that information. Were you aware of any concerns by the CIA about this incident?
DR. RICE: First of all, the CIA did clear the speech in its entirety and George Tenet has said that. He’s also said that he believes that it should not have been cleared. And we apparently, with the—in October for the Cincinnati speech, not for the State of the Union, but the Cincinnati speech, George Tenet asked that this be taken out of the Cincinnati speech, the reference to yellow cake. It was taken out of the Cincinnati speech because whenever the director of Central Intelligence wants something out, it’s gone.
MR. RUSSERT: How’d it get back in?
DR. RICE: It’s not a matter of getting back in. It’s a matter, Tim, that three-plus months later, people didn’t remember that George Tenet had asked that it be taken out of the Cincinnati speech and then it was cleared by the agency. I didn’t remember. Steve Hadley didn’t remember. We are trying to put now in place methods so you don’t have to be dependent on people’s memories for something like that.
MR. RUSSERT: Did you ever read the memo that I referenced?
DR. RICE: I don’t remember the memo. It came after it had been taken out of the speech, and so it’s quite possible that I didn’t. But let me be very clear: This shouldn’t happen to the president of the United States, and we will do everything that we can to make sure that it doesn’t happen again.
MR. RUSSERT: The Washington Post framed the issue this way: “The remarks by Rice and her associates raise two uncomfortable possibilities for the national security adviser. Either she missed or overlooked numerous warnings from intelligence agencies seeking to put caveats on claims about Iraq’s nuclear weapons program, or she made public claims that she knew to be false.”
DR. RICE: Well, neither happens to be true. First of all, we had a national intelligence estimate on which we relied to talk about Iraq’s pursuit of nuclear weapons. I would never make claims that I know not to be true. Why would I do that to the president of the United States? The president of the United States has to be credible with the American people. I have to be credible with the American people. This was a mistake. The memories of people three months before did not trigger when they saw the language in the State of the Union. When I read the line in the State of the Union, I thought it was perfectly fine. And I can assure you nobody was trying to somehow slip something into the State of the Union that the director of Central Intelligence didn’t have confidence in. The State of the Union address was about the broad threat that Saddam Hussein posed. That remained the case when we went to war. That remains the case today. And it was a strong case for removing him from power.


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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:56 PM
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100. Ummm
"The memories of people three months before did not trigger when they saw the language in the State of the Union. "

Which people - her people or all the people? Because this people remembered that the yellow cake rumor was a hoax - why is that, I wonder?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:11 PM
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13. fucking liar, no wonder Bu$h waits to annoint
him during recess. Go ahead DimSon, make our day! We're FIRE all your sorry asses soon!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:15 PM
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17. That is perjury on the part of John Bolton is it not......
...When Bolton testified before the senate hearing committee he swore under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth and noting but the truth, correct? Well, he lied, so he needs to be prosecuted and jailed.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:21 PM
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20. Biden could probably initiate an inquiry into that -- hope so.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:21 PM
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21. It is perjury, except of course, we are living in Bushworld, where up is
down, war is peace, and lies are the gospel truth.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:25 PM
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22. oopsie
Bolton made a boo boo.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:37 PM
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23. From TPM/Josh Marshall
(July 28, 2005 -- 08:37 PM EDT // link // print)

Apparently, according to the AP, the State Department is confirming Sen. Biden's claim that John Bolton failed to tell senators that he was interviewed in the joint State/CIA IG probe into the US government's use of the forged Niger papers.

Late Update: I've gotten a lot of emails about this. So I wanted to clear up an seemingly widespread confusion. In questioning today, the State Department has apparently backed up Bolton's claim that he did not testify before Patrick Fitzgerald's criminal investigation. The reference above is to the joint State Department-CIA IG investigation from 2003. These are totally different things, though they are both related to the same underlying issue -- the Niger forgeries.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:31 PM
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30. So MSNBC is standing by their story.....and their source is
"unimpeachable". So the State Department is calling them liars. Somebody is not telling the truth.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:53 PM
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56. Today on Hardball Shuster said their source now thinks it was inaccurate
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:42 PM
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24. This is the new Republican mantra: Lie and then say you "don't recall"
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:22 PM
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58. The Gipper pioneered that strategy during Iran-Contra
Said "I don't recall" or some variation nearly 100 times. And it's been their strategy ever since.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:43 PM
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25. But but but...
the girl is still missing in Aruba.
(things I found out while searching for any new information about Bolton on the msm...which was a big fat 0)

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:47 PM
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26. So he's either feeble minded or he's a liar
A memory would probably come in handy at the UN!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:21 PM
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28. Translation: HE LIED! eom
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:24 PM
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29. That's the Reagan defense. I don't recall. Of course maybe Ronnie
really couldn't recall since his mental capacities were weakening, but this jerk is a fricking liar!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:31 PM
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31. I know in my heart I was telling the truth
but the facts tell me otherwise.

:wtf:
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:51 PM
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34. They all use the "Smart" defense.
They come out and lie. If they are caught, they come back the next day and use the Maxwell Smart line "would you believe?"
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:38 PM
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92. LOL!
Would you believe... I talk to the IG every day. I never know when it's an investigation or not. No?

Would you believe...That guys always investigating something. I can't keep up with all of his investigations. No?

Would you believe... At the time of that interview I was undercover, and calling myself Bruce Wayne, so when they asked if I, John Bolton, was interviewed, I told the truth!
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:53 PM
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35. When was he interviewed. For how long. Was he represented by an attorney.
Get the facts. We know he was lying. Make the facts show that his lies are totally unbelievable, particularly: I don't recall.....
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:55 PM
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36. Hey at least it didn't come out on a Friday!
There's still a chance for this to gain some traction.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 09:56 PM
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37. "inaccurately told Congress"?????
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 09:56 PM by wicket
That's PERJURY!!!!

:kick:
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:01 PM
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38. The bush follies have crossed from illegal into straight up farce.
The bushbots don't know who lied when and told somebody else accidentally the truth about the wrong thing after making up a story about some forged documents that diappeared into the media ether after falsely accusing a diplomat of lying before telling the world a larger lie that it would be safer if they could keep some people hidden because they were lying while they were in the democratic fenced in part of a communist country secretly renditioned from other countries while blabbing the truth about an undercover operative that should have been kept secret to multiple people who are being investigated for the lies that started the big lie that is Iraq.

Whew!
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:11 PM
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39. What was that name they were calling John Kerry? Some kinda footware...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:13 PM
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40. Get OUT! Bolton is a ..... LIAH!!!!!!!!!!!
We knew it all along, didn't we, DU'ers?

What a putz.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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41.  State Dept admits Bolton gave inaccurate answers
The State Department reversed itself on Thursday night and acknowledged that President Bush's U.N. ambassador nominee gave Congress inaccurate information about an investigation he was involved in.

The acknowledgment came after the State Department had earlier insisted nominee John Bolton's "answer was truthful" when he said he had not been questioned or provided information to jury or government investigations in the past five years.

"When Mr. Bolton completed his form during the Senate confirmation process he did not recall being interviewed by the State Department inspector general. Therefore his form as submitted was inaccurate in this regard and he will correct the form," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.
http://tinyurl.com/8pj77
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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42. Oh. "Did not recall." Gee, where have I heard that before?
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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43. im expecting to hear it lots more
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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44. isnt "inaccurate" a form of
"Disassemble" Bush and Bolton certainly know how to parse words..As does the entire "Bush Crime Family"
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:47 PM
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45. All these short & long term memory loss problems....mmmmm -eom
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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46. How about "lying shit head"
Is the world spinning backwards or something, or do Republicans have a different dictionary defining "honesty" and "integrity" :wtf:
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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47. "Inaccurate answers" equal LIES.
They don't "misspeak" - they don't give "inaccurate answers" -they LIE, dammit!:mad:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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52. Inaccurate means only these things according to the dictionary
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:32 PM by IChing
inexact, imprecise, incorrect, wrong, erroneous, careless, faulty, imperfect, flawed, defective, unsound, unreliable; fallacious, false, mistaken, untrue; informal wide of the mark.


Fallacious answers
false answers

LIE to congress is a felony
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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48. repug=inaccuracy, dem=IMPEACH the SOB for lying!
ah...our new world as we know it now.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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49. So even if Bolton really is telling the truth about "forgetting",
that's good reason enough to disqualify him for the job.

Why should the post of U.N. ambassador be entrusted to a person who's likely to forget what street the U.N. building is located?
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blue northern Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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50. He's already said there's no such thing as the United Nations
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:30 PM by blue northern
"There's no such thing as the United Nations. If the U.N. secretary building in New York lost 10 stories, it wouldn't make a bit of difference."
John Bolton


edited to add quote
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:15 AM
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62. And when you see to that John, make sure you are on the eleventh floor
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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51. Purgury!
Yay
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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53. There is no way he can be temporarily appointed in Congressional recess
Which what was implied by the administration.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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54. This guy can't even remember where he's been
Now, why is he so qualified?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:48 PM
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55. I absolutely cannot believe he forgot
about testifying to a grand jury! Things like that do NOT slip one's mind.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:39 AM
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63. "Inaccurate Answers?" = HE LIED
I'm so effing tired of this Republican PR spin machine that has its media propaganda and uses words like "inaccurate answers"....lets call it what it is...HE F*cking LIED!

Bolton and the rest of the Cabal from Bush Co. are all LIARS!

:grr:
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:05 PM
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57. Another straw on camel's back
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 11:07 PM by JNelson6563
Bolton was interviewed by the State Department inspector general as part of a joint investigation with the Central Intelligence Agency related to Iraqi attempts to buy nuclear materials from Niger, State Department spokesman Noel Clay said.

When Bolton filled out a Senate questionnaire in connection with his nomination, "he didn't recall being interviewed by the State Department's inspector general. Therefore, his form, as submitted, was inaccurate," Clay said. "He will correct it."


How could he forget? With the coverage of the infamous SOTU "16 words", Wilson's trip, his subsequent revelations and Rove's retribution, are we to believe this just slipped his mind?

The lies coming from this (mis)Administration are getting more and more desperate. Silly Mayberry Machiavellis.

Julie

On edit: Oh and this "it will be corrected" stuff is insane. You don't get mulligans/do-overs in this game.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:04 AM
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61. He's gone, now
You can bet the White House is trying to find a reason other than this to withdraw his nomination. My best guess is "He wants to spend more time beating his family."
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:41 AM
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64. "Wants to spend more time beating his family"...
:spank:

:rofl:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:42 AM
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65. Great! An Inaccurate UN Ambassador, Another GOP "Misspeaker"
They have an amazing amound of euphemisms for LIES, LIES, LYING, LYING LIARS!!!!!!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:15 AM
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67. "...form, as submitted, was inaccurate"
"I don't recall" is a laughable old standby by the ethically and legally challenged Republicans. I'll bet he doesn't recall being an asshole jerk-off, either. Or a snide, supercilious, insulting walrus, for that matter. Not recalling it doesn't mean it isn't true.

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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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68. NYT: UN Nominee Omitted Data at Hearings, Bolton to Correct Form
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 10:57 PM by dooner
U.N. Nominee Omitted Data at Hearings in the Senate

By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: July 29, 2005

<snip>
Reacting to a letter from Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, the ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, Sean McCormack, the State Department spokesman, said Mr. Bolton had not disclosed the interview with the inspector general because Mr. Bolton had forgotten about it. Mr. McCormack said the interview, on July 18, 2003, had nothing to do with a federal investigation into who leaked the name of an undercover C.I.A. official to reporters, a potential crime.

Senator Biden told Ms. Rice in a letter on Thursday that "it has just come to my attention" that Mr. Bolton had been interviewed by the State Department inspector general and that "this information would appear to be inconsistent" with the earlier information Mr. Bolton had given to the committee.

Mr. McCormack responded that Mr. Bolton would correct the form.

Ms. Rice, in an interview on "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer" on PBS, signaled that Mr. Bush needed to move quickly on Mr. Bolton's appointment to prepare for a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly in September.

<snip>

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/29/politics/29bolton.html
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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69. Wait a minute here! I don't think you can do that!
As far as I know, once you lied on the damn form, it's TS baby! You can say you want to correct it, but it's too late!!!!

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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82. Another Fucked Up Headline By The NYTimes Downplaying The Corruption
and making it seem like an innocuous, innocent "mistake".
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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70. "My statements of truth are now inoperative." - Bully Boy Bolton
YOU WILL BELIEVE

Big BushCo Loves You and Protects You.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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71. I forgot.
Well. Excuse me!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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72. Too late fascist, you already perjured yourself
But I guess BushCo gets do-overs unlike the rest of us poor schmucks. I'm going to try that next time I have to fight a speeding ticket.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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73. ELISABETH BUMILLER-neocon enabler
Judith Miller Jr.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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74. Better late than never, I always say! n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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75. Under W's fascist government,
perjury is only perjury when He deems it so.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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76. Here is another link to a different story
link
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=1068664&tw=wn_wire_story

Just a question, why is it that everything the Bush Jr. Administration does have a fast track status on it?
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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77. I'm confused
From the two articles I snipped out some paragraphs. As far as I can tell the line is a) Mr. Bolton forgot he was interviewed by the Inspector General b) Was not questioned by Fitzgeral, nor the Grand Jury. Thus, had he not forgotten it didn't really matter because the interview wasn't them c) Since it didn't really matter, that's probably why h forgot but now that we've been caught lying red-handed we now remember so we will fix the questioner but he still didn't go before the Grand Jury.

My question is: How do you forget if you were interviewed by the Inspector General? Is that sort of like belong to a group in 1997 and not remembering? Why do * nominees have such faulty memories? How are you not interviewed about the investigation into the leak, yet be interviewed about the leak?

Mr. Bolton had not disclosed the interview with the inspector general because Mr. Bolton had forgotten about it. Mr. McCormack said the interview, on July 18, 2003, had nothing to do with a federal investigation into who leaked the name of an undercover C.I.A. official to reporters, a potential crime.

"When Mr. Bolton completed his forms for the Senate he did not recall being interviewed by the inspector general," Mr. McCormack said in a telephone interview Thursday. Mr. McCormack reiterated that Mr. Bolton had not been questioned by the grand jury in the leak investigation.

McCormack also said Bolton was not interviewed in special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame. Earlier in the day, reporters questioned McCormack on whether Bolton testified before the federal grand jury investigating the case, as MSNBC reported last week.


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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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78. Give me a break. Really, nobody "forgets" that kind of shit. Bolton
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 04:20 AM by Zorra
is just another corrupt republican liar.

They all use the "Reagan Defense": "I don't recall".

Nobody's buying it anymore.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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79. Kick...for Dupe....
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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80. if he forgot this rather important detail
of his recent history he is clearly not qualified to be an ambassador to the UN. They guy has short term memory problems, perhaps a touch of the Alzheimer's, and should be given early retirement.

Either that or he lied and needs to go to jail.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:31 AM
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81. "Correct" the form? Is that the same as "unlie?" nt
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 07:37 AM
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83. *inaccurately told Congress*
WTF? Why is it when republiCONS

LIE

they *inaccurately tell people things* ?????
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:23 AM
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85. Folks, when the RWers start with "so he made a mistake, big deal"
counter with

Going to war is a big deal, and Bolton was involved is the investigation to see if / how we lied about going to war, or whether we were simply mind bogglingly (sp?) incompetent.

National Security is a big deal - say it early and often friends.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:56 AM
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86. Aha, the Bush Administration, will go down in history as either the
most incompentent in history (none have any recollections of what they said or did a mere week or so ago) or as 'Liars,Inc.'.
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Callboy Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:48 AM
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87. hard to remember but he sure
seems to remember how to meet his goals
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:25 AM
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89. Bolton is likely the primary leak in the Plame case
1.) We also know Bolton gave testimony to Fitzgerald's grand jury.

2.) We know Bolton was one of the officials neo-cons forced upon the State Department in May 2001. The became the Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International

3.) We know that a secret State Department memo given to Powell by Armitage just before his trip to Africa in 2003 contained the information (marked secret) to the effect that Wilson's wife (Plame) was instrumental in his visit to Niger.

4.) We know that a number of "high ranking administration officials" knew this information within a day and leaked it (winthin 2) to the press to discredit Wilson and his criticism of the administration with respect to Saddam's desires for WMDs.

Connect the dots. IF THE INFORMATION CAME FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT MEMO (as was speculated upon last week because of grand jury testimony in the Plame case THEN IS IS MORE THAN SIMPLY LIKELY THAT BOLTON WAS THE CONDUIT OF THE INFORMATION AND, THEREFORE, THE PRIMARY LEAKER!

Even if Bolton was not on the 2003 trip to Africa, ti was like that in the capacity of Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security he would have been given the same momo by Armitage.


Now President Bush is considering appointing Bolton as Ambassador to the U.N. through a mid-term appointment.

If the press begins seriously putting this together and speculating upon it, Bush will either pull back or brazenly apoint him at significant political damage.
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cross_democrat Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:30 AM
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90. Yellow Dog's Take On It
The Yellow Dog Blog has a good take on the latest on Bolton.

http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2005/07/friday-surprise-bolton-lied.html
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:38 AM
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91. It's a sad day when...
...a Republican controlled agency cannot keep all of its lies straight.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:33 PM
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94. How could he NOT be interviewed by FBI or grand jury on Plame case?
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 01:55 PM by skip fox
It doesn't make sense. A State Department memo links Plame and Wilson. Bolton is the administration's chief man in State (placed by neo-cons to watch Powell and report back).

Memo leaks out via neo-cons and Rove.

Hell, he would HAVE to have been interviewed. (At least by FBI!)




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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:18 PM
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95. Gee, Clinton wasn't allowed to do this.
Would have saved having an impeachment trial in the Senate.

What if Clinton had been allowed to say, "Oh, you mean mouth to wee-wee is a 'sexual relation'? Ok, we DID have sexual relations. Sorry."

Different standard for right-wing fascists in a right-wing fascist country, I guess...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:49 PM
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98. Make sure you remember this, guys.
Just. Another. LIE.

Kicked and recommended.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:04 PM
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99. I've written Oliphant, Bloggerman and others:
(With Oliphant and The Real News Page, I have a history.)

Here's the letter:

I'd like to pose a question which might be valuable to you.

Why was Bolton never called before Fitzgerald's grand jury? Why has he never even been interviewed by the FBI on the Plame leak? I don't have the answer, but the question is very "ripe."

We know Bolton was one of the officials administrative neo-cons forced upon the State Department in May 2001 (to watch Powell and report back) as the the Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International and deal on WMD issues (therefore would have know about Plame or could easily have gotten the information after Wilson's article).

We know that a secret State Department memo given to Powell by Armitage just before his trip to Africa in 2003 contained the information (marked secret) to the effect that Wilson's wife (Plame) was instrumental in his visit to Niger.

We know that a number of "high ranking administration officials" knew this information within a day and leaked it (within 3 days) to the press to discredit Wilson and his criticism of the administration with respect to Saddam's desires for WMDs.

Yesterday the State Department tells us that Bolton never testified in front of Fitzgerald's grand jury or gave any testimony beyond answering the State Department chief inspector's questions about Niger and yellow cake (and perhaps Plame).

FBI interviewed Rove twice and Fitzgerald called Rove three times. Yet he never called Bolton? And we are lead to believe the FBI hasn't even interviewed him?


The issue is "passing strange," as they say.

Is something up?

Sincerely,

Skip Fox
Professor
English Dept.
University of Louisiana, Lafayette
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:21 PM
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101. WE CANNOT APPOINT LIARS!
how many more lies are worming their way out of Bolton?
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