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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:46 AM
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Recount story a surprise to Bush
TALLAHASSEE · Gov. Jeb Bush said Wednesday that he was surprised by a report that U.S. Supreme Court nominee John Roberts played an influential role in Florida's 2000 presidential recount, insisting that "my relationship with him lasted about 30 minutes."

The governor, whose brother, President Bush, won the White House after the high court stopped the Florida recount by a 5-4 vote, said he huddled briefly with Roberts during the 36-day legal standoff for a "very arcane discussion."

The governor made the remarks after Texas Solicitor General Ted Cruz, a former domestic policy adviser to George Bush's campaign, told reporters that he brought Roberts, then a Washington lawyer, to Tallahassee to take part in the frenzied legal battle that followed the Florida contest.

Cruz said he called Roberts and asked him to join the campaign's recount team because he was "one of the best constitutional minds in the country."

>>>>>snip

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/legislature/sfl-arecount28jul28,0,6558573.story?coll=sfla-news-legislature
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:47 AM
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1. This current crop of thugs has an even worse collective memory
than Ronald Reagan.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:51 AM
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3. Bingo.
If they're so incapable as to not be able to recall such important, groundbreaking events, they have no business holding so much power.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:59 AM
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8. Bush the First can't remember where he was on 11-22-63.
Neither could Nixon. Hypocrisy, greed, arrogance, and criminal behavior certainly does a number on one's brain, doesn't it?

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:04 PM
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20. Oh, he remembers allright... he just cant say
if you know what I mean.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:47 AM
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2. yup, and he barely knew Ken Lay, too
Kenny Boy, I mean...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:55 AM
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6. Or any of the other thugs from their neo-con mafia
" I didn't realize I had a brother running for President"
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:52 AM
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4. Bushheimer's disese...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 11:44 AM by RobertSeattle
A Temporary version of Alzheimer's disease that occurs to Bush family and close associates. Seems to happen when questioned about events that may be illegal or unethical. The symptoms immediately end when the questing ends.


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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:57 AM
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7. That's a good one
it should be added to the DU list of phrases!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:01 AM
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11. Got to add it to my new "newspeak" dictionary
:toast:
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:22 PM
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26. "BUSHHEIMER'S DISEASE.....
I think it would lookd good on a bumpersticker
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:13 PM
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28. Bushheimer's disease takes many forms
It presented in Reagan as "I don't recall." (Course it turns out that he really didn't have a clue, just like we said all along.)

In Bush the Elder it manifested in the unfortunate, "I was out of the loop," while in the Younger it seems to be an inability to meet anyone longer than "briefly." (By the way, Junior, Kenny Boy is an old family friend, major payola contributer, and leading member of your crime family. I hope this helps.)

This probably explains the recent epidemic of claims that GOP crime... aka "misdeeds" and "inaccuracies" should be ignored as being in the past or perhaps belonging to history.

The only known cure is impeachment, testimony under oath and serious jail time.
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:46 PM
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36. Misdeeds and inaccuracies belonging to history
Your quote reminds me of Condoleeza Lice downplaying the August 1991 report of socalled "Historical value" that bluntly warned her of terrorist attacks that would soon occur.

gimme a break on everything all of them do. :eyes:
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:27 PM
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39. I wasn't going to mention the Condi form of the illness. It's too horrible
This from a myrma minx post in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1661901

DR. RICE: First of all, the CIA did clear the speech in its entirety and George Tenet has said that. He’s also said that he believes that it should not have been cleared. And we apparently, with the—in October for the Cincinnati speech, not for the State of the Union, but the Cincinnati speech, George Tenet asked that this be taken out of the Cincinnati speech, the reference to yellow cake. It was taken out of the Cincinnati speech because whenever the director of Central Intelligence wants something out, it’s gone.

MR. RUSSERT: How’d it get back in?

DR. RICE: It’s not a matter of getting back in. It’s a matter, Tim, that three-plus months later, people didn’t remember that George Tenet had asked that it be taken out of the Cincinnati speech and then it was cleared by the agency. I didn’t remember. Steve Hadley didn’t remember. We are trying to put now in place methods so you don’t have to be dependent on people’s memories for something like that. (That's hilarious. Try a pencil or pay attention to little things like invading other countries.)

MR. RUSSERT: Did you ever read the memo that I referenced?

DR. RICE: I don’t remember the memo.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/973028.asp?cp1=1

It's just too sad, a woman of her alleged brilliance with this most advanced and insidious form of the illness.


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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:59 PM
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42. Bushheimer's Disease
Nominated for that alone.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:54 AM
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5. Is this a "conflict of interest nominee" or a "political payola nominee?"
Either way, it's an unethical nomination.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:18 PM
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29. Political payola??? Bush? I'm shocked that you would suggest that!
Bush maintains the highest ethical standards and NEVER, EVER rewards incompetent or bitterly partisan behavior. Surely you're not saying that our fearless leader has chosen a political hack for the Supreme Court?
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:05 PM
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40. Sorry, i didn't mean to offend you. But, yes! n/t
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:59 AM
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9. A surprise? He's surprised they are busted!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:00 AM
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10. Wait a minute...this asshole said he RECUSED HIMSELF
Excuse the fuck out of me, but Jeb swore up and down with endless sanctimoniousness that he was recusing himself from the fight when it went into the recount phase. Admitting that he was too close to the whole thing and righteously claiming that it was only good and proper that he recuse himself, he took the high road.

Apparently he was just another greasy, ward-healing fixer like the rest of the thieves.

Once again, Jeb Bush's word means less than nothing.

Why hasn't this been brought up?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:58 AM
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18. Good catch! NT
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:22 PM
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30. Why hasn't this been brought up?
Cuz the people that work for the television networks are just as biased as Jeb is. Wait til you see them kissing his 2008 ass.

That's why I get my news here where people like you refuse, absolutely refuse to accept this revolting family as America's new royalty.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:01 PM
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38. That's right. Jeb recused himself on November 8th.
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 03:02 PM by donkeyotay
November 8, 2000.

Florida Governor Jeb Bush officially recuses himself from the process.

http://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/ARTICLES/pe2000timeline.php
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:02 AM
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12. It's either the kool-aid they drink erases their memories or
they are all in Liars' Inc. as charter memebers.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:02 AM
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13. "I can't recall" Roberts, said Jeb
Awww, you remember him Jebediah, he's the one who helped you STEAL THE ELECTION, remember now?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:23 PM
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22. Just a variation
of the "To the best of my recollection..." prefix used by many Nixonites when testifying to the Watergate Committee.
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tmorelli415 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:11 AM
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14. Dick Cheney: "I never met you before today"
I could make a list a mile long but why bother...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:17 AM
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15. ISTR the "advice" had to do with ordering electors to vote against results
Does anyone have a link to that?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:25 AM
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16. were his lip moving when he said that?
yet another *(FL).....f*cking liar
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:53 AM
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17. If I were to just forget major important details I wouldn't have a job
But then my job isn't as important as running a state or a country. I guess you have to hold a seat of real power before you can exhibit such a selective memory and get away with it.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:08 PM
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27. Boy, that pout looks familar.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:43 PM
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35. "All in the Family"
One in which "memory is a stranger" and unaccountability is a close relative...



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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:01 PM
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19. "my relationship with him lasted about 30 minutes" and required an entire
tube of KY jelly.

sorry, it was such an easy one. 8^)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:40 PM
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43. "my relationship with him lasted about 30 minutes.
Then I drove him back to the street corner I picked him up at."
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:14 PM
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21. "some guy in TX" - Ah, the Aristocrat Throwaway of Underlings
It's in these tiny vignettes that the true arrogance of Jeb Crow Shrub shows: He speaks of loyal underlings the way Poppy talked about Jeb's "little brown" children.

" 'But since I wasn't part of all the inner workings of the Bush campaign after the election, it was news to me that he was. I don't know if it's true or not; it hasn't been confirmed by anybody other than some guy in Texas.' "
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:27 PM
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23. Who this guy? Salami? Pastrami? Zimbabwe? Abu Dhabi? Duh?
chatterbox
Whopper: George W. Bush
Chalabi? The president can't quite place that name ...
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, June 4, 2004, at 2:00 PM PT

Q: Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi leader that's fallen out of favor within your administration. I'm wondering if you feel that he provided any false information, or are you particularly—

A: Chalabi?

Q: Yes, with Chalabi.

A: My meetings with him were very brief. I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him.

—President Bush, in a Rose Garden exchange with reporters, June 1, 2004.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2101786/

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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:28 PM
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32. Here's an "extensive conversation"
"Hey Chabli, you gonna get my war thing going?"

"Good as done."

"Hope you're enjoying the 'ho's and the chow. I just love living off the tax fat."
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:56 PM
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24. when are the takeover assholes going to be stopped?
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:33 PM
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33. When your rank and file Republican finally understands that
this isn't the party of morality. Jesus isn't in it. It's not going to make you free or rich. They're crooks and liars. They're stealing our freedom and our rights, and they're bankrupting us. Mission accomplished.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:04 PM
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25. Another repuke lies: STOP THE PRESSES!
nothing new there..
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:28 PM
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31. Jeb was talking about a non violent coup in 2000
and if they really believed it could be pulled off.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:38 PM
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34. 30 minutes is longer than the relationship with most cheap hoares!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:58 PM
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37. Jeb as Capt. Renault: "I'm shocked, shocked..."
"...to find recounting is going on in here!"

As shocked as we'd be if science found a shred of decency in Bush family DNA.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:49 PM
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41. Ranks with "I first met Ken Lay in 1994"
"George W. Bush is in a class by himself when it comes to prevarication. It is no exaggeration to say that lying has become Bush's signature as president."

All the President's Lies, American Prospect, May 2003. Cited in American Dynasty by Kevin Phillips.
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