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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:49 PM
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Hate Groups Turn Focus on Hispanic Immigrants
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBZVHCRQBE.html

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. (AP) - Organized hate groups like the Ku Klux Klan have historically terrorized blacks and Jews in the Southeast. But the recent influx of Hispanic immigrants to the region has given hate groups a new target, and officials say Hispanics are increasingly targets of hate crimes.

Former Klansman Daniel Schertz, a 27-year-old from the southeast Tennessee town of South Pittsburg, was indicted in June on charges of building pipe bombs to kill Hispanic immigrants.

Imperial Wizard Billy Jeffery of the North Georgia White Knights denied any connection to the bomb plot and said he banished Schertz from the group, but he readily admits he isn't happy with the flow of immigrants to the region.

"The blacks fought for their civil rights. These illegal immigrants are coming in here and having everything just handed to them," Jeffery said.

Thanks Lou.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:50 PM
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1. Us queers get a little reprieve until the mid terms
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:55 PM
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2. jeeesh
I guess they're getting bored with the whole anti lame black lesbians on welfare thing they had going for a while - it had everything rolled up into one

1. social programs
2. skin color
3. sexual orientation
4. sex of the species

They're longing for a simpler life when they can just hate merely one thing at a time.

Poor guys. So much to hate, so little time.

:P

seriously, they just gotta hate something, at all times. It's ingrained into their identity.


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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:59 PM
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3. RE: Racists change targets
"The blacks fought for their civil rights. These illegal immigrants are coming in here and having everything just handed to them," Jeffery said.

Yeah, Blacks fought AGAINST you and your kind to get those civil rights! Just may be the Latinos entering the country are engaging in the same struggle...?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:02 PM
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4. The illegal immigrants all seem to work pretty hard
from what I see.

I'd hardly call sweating in the mid-day sun to work on harvesting or construction "having everything just handed to them".
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:27 PM
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8. I saw that and thought the same thing
they really are a bunch of nutjobs. I cannot imagine waking up every morning with my teeth on edge hating someone because they had green eyes or blue skin or whatever external "thing" it's fashionable to hate.

They're really treading into deep water hating the "idea" of liberals and the "idea" of immigrants and the "idea" of people doing what they want with their own bodies and lives.

I expect they'll drown in the hate if they swim out much farther.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:03 PM
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5. And not just undocumented Hispanic immigrants....
Sounds like "Hispanic" is the word that matters. You can't tell someone's immigration status just by looking at them. In fact, you can't even tell that they are immigrants.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:52 PM
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18. Racism is so embedded in our culture, here's a story for ya...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 05:54 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
For my class culture project, I made tamales with the help of my grandma and mom. So I took them to class and everyone loved them. Several people immediately asked "Does your mom take orders?" and "where does your mom sell these?"

My mom has an office job. But immediately those people assumed that my mom and grandma made their living selling mexican foods. When a white person brings in ham sandwiches, nobody says "where does your mom sell these? Does she take orders?" It is just assumed that she did that in her spare time.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:14 PM
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6. hey -- i hate to tell these racists this -- but america will soon be
BROWN!
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:26 PM
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7. Aah, Diversification

Who said these people weren't open minded ?

:sarcasm:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:44 PM
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9. "Like a dog on a chain": Dylan said it well
From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks,
And the hoof beats pound in his brain.
And he's taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide 'neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain't got no name
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game.

http://bobdylan.com/songs/pawn.html
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:45 PM
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10. give Me Your Hungry, Your Tired Your Poor
~I'll Piss On 'em
that's What The Statue Of Bigotry Says
your Poor Huddled Masses, Let's Club 'em To Death
and Get It Over With And Just Dump 'em On The Boulevard~

Lou had it dead on.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:22 PM
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11. I'm starting a Hate Group to Hate Hate Groups.
"'The blacks fought for their civil rights. These illegal immigrants are coming in here and having everything just handed to them,' Jeffery said." Absolutely, positively fucking ridiculous.

Anyway, if you want to sign up for the HGHHG send your check or money order for $19.95 plus shipping and handling to the address on your screen. You will receive not only one, but two, hand-signed "I'm Not Ghandi" billy clubs, a life-sized George Bush effigy and a pre-fueled, upside-down Christian cross ready to burn in your favorite biggot's front yard. BUT WAIT, that's not all... join today and you will receive this handy-dandy address book full of the addresses and phone numbers of gay bashers, hate-mongers, right-wing "Christian" fundamentalists and known Islamic extremists. Don't hesitate. Hate hate today!

(Price subject to change. Address book does not include members of the Taliban. You can find them in a cave in Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden's whereabouts are unknown. "Militia-men" are most easily found along the US side of the Mexican-American border, post 1848. Legal fees are the responsibility of the hate hater. HGHHG not responsible for cultural war casualties. Billy clubs not returnable if used. Burning George Bush not recommended south of the Mason-Dixon line."
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:42 PM
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13. It might be a well-deserved AND strategic poke in their eye if we
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 04:00 PM by calimary
always, and I do mean ALWAYS work in a reference to how these groups typically vote republi-CON.

It is time to start demonizing the very notion of "Republican." Indeed, the very word "republican" AND also "conservative" should be systematically perverted. At EVERY possible opportunity, we should try to work in little mentions about how "that's what you get when you vote republi-CON." Or "ever noticed how most of the people in those hate-groups traditionally vote republi-CON?"

The concept of "republican" and hate-groups, "republican" and hate itself, "republican" and regressive, "republican" and cheating, "republican" and lying, "republican" and extremist, "republican" and Pharisees, "republican" and false gods - all those sorts of connections, should be RELENTLESSLY reinforced. You know, repeated over and over and over so the truth gets out, to sort of catapult the propaganda.

It is VITALLY important that WE go about resolutely POISONING THE WELL against the GOP, just as surely as they did to us, turning "liberal" into a dirty word. We MUST do this. MUST! If we are to regain the majority and prevent the republi-CONS from EVER gaining one-party domination as they have, we have to work from the grassroots to POISON THE WELL. Poison it systemically so it works its way upwards from deep beneath the surface. Make all the nastiest, most unpatriotic, most unAmerican words, phrases, and concepts INEXTRICABLY linked to the GOP, deep down in the subconscious of as many potential voters as possible. Especially the young - who must be shown that voting republi-CON offers you NOTHING in the way of a future, except maybe a filled body-bag freshly imported from some faraway war zone. No money, no rights, no consumer protections, no privacy, no home ownership, no insurance or health coverage, no oversight, no recourse for grievances, no responsible education, no opportunities, no level playing field, but plenty of dumbed-down society and nice dead-end minimum-wage jobs flippin' burgers somewhere. It is CRITICALLY important to render the idea of voting republi-CON as repulsive to mainstream America as worshipping Osama bin Laden is. That's the way we not only protect our flank but retake the ground from the enemy.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:28 PM
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15. Yep...
In other words, use the word "Republican" a lot. If one uses the word frequently, the negative associations should come quite naturally.

I'd also propose that we expand our repertoire of curse words to include the word "Republican". Like this:

GODDAMN SON-OF-A-REPUBLICAN!
REPUBLICAN-FUCKING ASSHOLE!
REPUBLICAN-SUCKER!

Well, you get the idea.



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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:12 PM
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19. Amen, Brother! And we don't even have to lie... It's all true.
KKK = Republican
Aryan Brotherhoood = Republican
Westboro Baptist Church (God Hates Fags, Thank God for 9/11) = Republican
Abortion Clinic Bombers = Republican
Taliban = Think Like Republicans

I'm on it!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:30 PM
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12. i know of a
bm on another board (several, in fact) who are virulently against latinos, hispanics, mexicans (they are all lumped together). the bigotry is definitely not confined to white ractists.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:14 PM
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14. Conservatives need more people to hate. This should pick up the slack.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 04:33 PM
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16. Interesting how this comes just after the Minutemen thing...
I've been thinking for a while now that the Minutemen, even if outwardly semi-respectable, have some high-level contact with white supremacist groups (though I think it's more the National Alliance than the KKK).

Tucker
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:14 PM
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17. Amazing how they always have someone to blame other than themselves

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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:36 PM
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20. My hispanic ancestors came to America in 1492.....
if it had not been for my ancestors, those KKK whities would not be around. My ancestors came in Peace but the Anglos came to kill dark skins and steal their land. They KKK hicks, Get Over It!
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