Breaking: Bush Appoints Bolton as UN Envoy, Bypassing Senate

[WhiteTara]

I hate this bastard so much. Another thumb in the eye of Americans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/01/politics/01cnd-bolton.html?hp

President Bush bypassed the Senate confirmation process today and appointed John R. Bolton as the new United States ambassador to the United Nations.

snip

he move comes after 36 senators signed a letter to the president last week, saying that Mr. Bolton was "not truthful" while answering questions by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in March, and should not be given a recess appointment. Some Republicans have said the approval of Mr. Bolton is long past due and that Mr. Bush is well within his rights to make the recess appointment.

Some senators, including some key Republicans, have also raised questions about Mr. Bolton over his history of criticizing the United Nations and over charges that he has tried to influence intelligence assessments to conform to his views.
:grr:

[proud patriot]

1. That arrogant SOB

:grr:

[expatriot]

10. my thoughts exactly...

[rlev1223]

28. Will Dems ever learn...

..that Bush never backs down....never. In the past week our party caved on the energy bill
and CAFTA, could have filibustered the NRA fiasco and let Bush know that notwithstanding Christopher Dodd standing in front of every available microphone explaining why it was a bad idea, there would be no price to pay for the Bolton shove. Oil drilling is next, as a budget add-on with no chance of blockage.

And now Hillary Clinton wants to "redefine" the party's goals? That means, of course, that actual progressives should just shut up.

The one party system is alive and well.

[screembloodymurder]

54. This asshole is out of control

any Dem that votes with him should be out of the party. This is war. You're either with us or against us and a vote with * is a vote against Democracy.

[fooj]

80. I agree.

Peace.

[JRob]

100. He's been out of control & there is a varying group of Dems that

continually bend over to allow given issues to pass (e.g. the Bankruptcy Bill etc.).

I agree with calling Dem's out, but unless we organize an assault on their funding (e.g. Corporate America) we've got nothing.

In "war" you always attempt to cut the supply lines...

Make your voice heard by the corps (our true policy makers) and you'll see a change in the nations politics.

[devinsgram]

124. The sign of a true dictator.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

103. The Hated is just Building inside of me. I'm gonna splode soon.

[Voltaire99]

190. Well said, rlev1223

You have captured the bleakness of the situation.

The party has been reminded by Bush that it doesn't matter at all, and by Hillary that under her leadership it could even matter less.

Bleakness? Complete darkness, actually. Seldom before today was the Democratic Party so desperately, so fully broken, and with so little hope of being refashioned into a force in politics.

We need a little help from history right now; yet history, while it contains many surprises, will never be rushed.

[rlev1223]

237. Good handle, Voltaire......

Ecrasez l'enfame!

[proud patriot]

130. May it be their undoing

:toast:

[liberal N proud]

2. Wasted no time did he.

Hurry up and get the scum in place so it will be harder to remove him.

:mad:

[Logician]

120. We need to start a forceful campaign to rightfully smear Bush on this one!

As Shrub was quoted in the NYT article:

"Because of partisan delaying tactics by a handful of senators, John was unfairly denied the up-or-down vote that he deserves," the president said. "As a result, America has now gone more than six months without a permanent ambassador to the United Nations. This post is too important to leave vacant any longer."


HOWEVER it is clear that the delaying tactics were those enacted by the White House and specifically Bush. Instead of working toward consensus to appoint an individual that was acceptable to Democrats and at least half of the American adult population, *BUSH* stonewalled to get his way. Sure what he did was in-line with the laws of our country, but this is a case of exploiting our constitution for political posturing and rewarding an unqualified friend!

We need to wage war on Bush's low credibility and low level of emotional maturity! He is operating like a dumb adolescent, and not a leader of America. The MSM needs not to be soft on this appointment, and on Bush right now. The majority of questions at press conferences should be pointed, and should ask how the President could possibly appoint someone who has been so unbalanced and vindictive to a position that requires the utmost of diplomacy.

I am so furious. We need to somehow get the Democratic leaders to unite and force some sort of press release/rebuttal that sharply attacks Shrub's lack of intelligence and maturity.

[katty]

121. Dictator bush another F/U to the world-I do what I want

[slor]

3. He is such an...

asshole...actually, all of these fuckers are!

[Doctor_J]

4. For all *'s faults,

being a lying, drunken, coke-addled, lying moron, he is a coward first and foremost. If we had a real opposition party, every move the GOP makes for the next year would be filibustered. Instead, they will whine for a day or two and then go on ith business as usual.

[truth2power]

42. "whine for a day or two..." You're right..

But if we verbalize our frustration with the "Vichy Dems" we're taken to task by some here for being insufficiently loyal. :shrug:

[saigon68]

79. Like Limpdick Losermann

A DINO if there ever was one.

[Up2Late]

5. I heard this announce over an Hour ago, I SHOCKED, Shocked I tell you

Shocked that this is just making Breaking news Now here at DU, What's Up with that?

[expatriot]

9. Perhaps new to LBN, but it's been being discussed for quite a while

if you look at threads in GD and GD: Politics.

[Up2Late]

23. I know, I'm joking

Usually the other LBN poster have this kind of stuff here as soon as it make the radio of Cable T.V. "news.":evilfrown:

[meganmonkey]

29. The first couple of threads on this were combined

with the earlier thread announcing that Bush was planning to do this...I guess the mods decided it was worthy of it's own thread...

[onehandle]

6. Blood.

This is the best opportunity to show America how Bush wants his people instead of qualified people.

Dems better scream over this.

I want blood.

[mtnester]

11. THE person who needs to scream over this is Voinovitch

otherwise, his BS during hearings was just that...BS posturing
If we don't hear a strong statement and some serious ranting from ole Georgie Voinovitch by day's end, then all my posts over his BS during the hearing will have come true.

[wildwww2]

43. Voinovitch is a bigger wimp than all of our dems. If that is possible.

Repukes have to keep their war crime going. And with Bolton in place Iran will be much easier for the next Shock and Awe war crime. This is porongraphic in the way the supposed opposition just keeps on getting screwed and begs for more. The Dems in the rubber stamp senate should shut things down until usurper boy withdraws this maggot. But they won`t. They represent the evil people among us not "We the people".
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[expatriot]

16. check out the SOB had to say....

"This post is too important to leave vacant any longer, especially during a war and a vital debate about U.N. reform,"

MAYBE, if the post was so vital than you should have picked someone that could have passed the damn Senate without a third of the Senate filibustering you fucking twit.

[Bzzzz]

67. My...

sentiments exactly!!!:mad:

[fooj]

81. But we aren't at war anymore. It's a "struggle" remember?

:banghead:

[Cha]

214. Then get somebody

qualified ya dumb fuck!

[fberknm]

133. The democrats can and will do nothing

I see alot of frustration with the democrats, probably most by democrats who just woke up and realized that Santa Claus does not exist. Time to drop the naivety. I must admit, I am no democrat. Was once registered there, but learned at a young age that the party has no spine, no courage and is simply a slightly more moderate version of the republicans. This is why we will hear little more than juvenile whining from the democrats in office. I would rather vote independent than support a party that lays down for its opposition.

Regarding the Bolton appointment, think about how brilliant this is. W wanted his guy, (why, I cannot say, the guy seems like an idiot to me), republicans know the guy has baggage, and they did not fight the fail to move to closure. I have said this every chance I get: If the democrats want to get back to the white house in 2006, they have to stop fighting W. W doesn't get to run again. Fight him all you want, but that will not get the dems in the white house.

This move was brilliant by W and his boys for just this reason. Who are the democrats going to blame? There is no one to blame who is subject to re-election risk. W is the guy on the line here, no one else, and W is not running again. There is no republican who is running again who can be put on the spot for this recess appointment. Thus the democrats lost an opportunity. Had the democrats supported the vote, then the result would not have changed, Bolton would be in, but they would have a list of people to blame.

Time for the democrats to wake up and behave like adults. No one with more than a half ounce brain should be surprised by the appointment. Once again, W got what he wanted, and it seems like once again, the democrats paved the way.

FWH

[nolabels]

145. I clicked on EDIT then REPLACE on the ole word processor and.........

substituted the word "democrats" with "Americans". After that your words made much more sense, Thank you :thumbsup:

Btw with a few more editing tools we will be able to blame the whole world for our own misery. I just love P.C's :loveya:

[fberknm]

155. You are right

We did indeed make our bed. However, the W supporters have three more years. However, there are a number of republicans who are likely scratching their heads right now regarding Bolton. While it is impossible to say, I suggest that were he running again for president, W may not have appointed Bolton. He can do anything he wants right now, he is not subject to any electoral discipline. What the democrats need to do is abandon their failed efforts at putting W on the button, and instead market their message to the voters and put the republicans on the button.

I stay with blaming the democrats, i.e. the democratic party and decision makers, because they facilitated this. It would have been much, much better for Bolton to be voted in. That leaves a paper trail to people who are exposed to electoral pressure. This was a strategic mistake on their part.

FWH

[nolabels]

216. I kind of think the other way about it

The guy was unacceptable to most normal citizens. He got his ugly record put out there, and the republicans got a taste of their own medicine.

Like it was only fair, if he wasn't going to come forth being truthful and with all the information so how could they vote to confirm him? (I know the dress-right-dress republicans would confirm him without even a wink if everything was hush-hush thats why they had to raise a stink about it). The republicans are just using the democrats as a backing post. They are just playing the good-cop bad-cop routine in the senate which just par for course (and status quo, don't ya know).

Any real political change will have to come the from the street. Republicans are without a rudder because the whole world is on to them and their corporate masters

I also hold little hope for any voting any of them in or out also. I am guessing the next REAL election will be by people voting with their feet.



A Tradition of Struggle

Why did Bolivians take to the streets?
by Kari Lydersen
October 24, 2003

Teenagers from the poor barrios of La Paz, Bolivia performed in Chicago this week. Their theater group, Teatro Trono, put on a skit in which they defined politics based on the experiences many Bolivians have had with their government over the years:

“Que es la politica?” (What is politics?)

“Es poder!” (It’s power!)

“Poder para joder?” (loosely: The power to screw us?)

In a country that Ivan Nogales, director of Teatro Trono, describes as the country with the strongest history of rebellion in all of Latin America, this sentiment is what led to the ousting of President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada last week.

Sanchez fled in the wake of massive protests, sparked largely by his privatization plans, economic austerity measures, and a plan to sell natural gas to the U.S. and Mexico via a pipeline through neighboring Chile. The week of protests in La Paz and other parts of the country left close to 100 dead, including soldiers executed for refusing to fire on unarmed protesters
(snip)
http://www.americas.org/item_54

[fberknm]

254. The real election is the election that votes people in or out

Demonstrations and displays do little and cannot move someone in or out of office. That requires a vote, an election. We need to win in 2006 and more importantly in 2008.

There are alot of vulnerable republicans out there, not to mention the lack of an incumbent in 2008, so we have a great opportunity to make some changes.

FWH

[no_to_war_economy]

7. hubris

Main Entry: hu·bris
Pronunciation: 'hyü-br&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek hybris
: exaggerated pride or self-confidence

[Tesha]

35. But Bush's self-confidence *ISN'T* exagerated; he knows he'll win.

Just as sure as the sun rises, Bush wins, and often with
help from many complicit Democrats.

Tesha

[wicket]

8. Beyond pathetic

:grr:

[bemildred]

12. More desperate stupidity.

it will be interesting to watch Mr. Bolton's antics. He was so effective in dealing with the N. Koreans (:sarcasm:)

[Julius Civitatus]

13. Next: Iran rethoric scalates into conflict

That's why they are appointing this moron. Wait and see.

:scared:

[H5N1]

27. Yep. He is their Iran attack dog in the UN. The stage is set.

[xxqqqzme]

95. agree - bolton has 2 B @ the UN

so the korporate kriminal kabal can invade Iran.

[devinsgram]

125. Right on, everything is in place now.

[meti57b]

14. obviously bolton has got the goods on dubya. I wonder what it is.

[HereSince1628]

32. Maybe Bolton is a perfect choice for Bush. here's 10 reasons

1. Bush gets to say fuck-you to 36 senators who oppose this.

2. Bush gets to say fuck-you to 36 senators who oppose this.

3. Bush gets to say fuck-you to 36 senators who oppose this.

4. Bush sees the UN as useless and a danger to his aspiration to world domination, Bolton hates the UN and sees it as worse than useless.

5. Bolton will push for changes in the UN Security council. Bolton will try to reduce the membership to a single country...The United States of America.

6. Bolton is a damn good liar. Bush admires that.

7. Bolton will lie for the sake of loyalty. Bush LOVES that.

8. Bolton's nomination will draw attention away from Rove. Bush
loves that.

9. Bolton will chase people through the halls of the UN throwing staplers at them. Cheney will love that.

10. The UN gives Bolton access to more and better opporunities to acquire and move around forged documents about phony nuclear threats.

[William Seger]

66. 11. Bush gets to moon the whole world

... again.

[rateyes]

37. My thoughts exactly!

Sounds like a payoff to the nth degree.

[ProudDad]

97. It is a payoff

Bolton was the one who crashed the vote counting in 2000 and declared,

"I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count.".

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0414-25.htm
http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000725.html

Thus finalizing the first right-wing coup in U.S. history...

[rateyes]

107. Yeah, that little tid-bit slipped my aging mind. Thanks. eom

[meganmonkey]

15. Another victory for deMOCKracy

x(

[shantipriya]

17. Bolton Apponitment

Welcome to America( Bushworld)!!!
Democracy in action!
This is the type of democracy America and Bush are trying to export to the world.What a moron?

[crispini]

18. Oh, BIG surprise!!!!

NOT!

What an ass.

[Botany]

142. But he has such great morals .....

..... he played with himself as he forced his first wife to
have sex with strangers @ a "swingers club" in NYC in the 1970s
and 80s. Where are the repugs who were so upset by Clinton's
B.J.?

God I really hate * & company.

[Rhiannon12866]

19. Jesus Christ! We knew that he was going to do this!

He was just biding his time until Congress let out! He knew damn well that this was the only way he was going to get Bolton in there! A lot of repubs would have even voted him down, following Voinivich's lead! This SOB has got to be stopped! This isn't the first time he's done this, or the last! I have taken part in numerous "actions," asking my reps to vote down some ultra-conservative judge, only to learn that there was no vote, that Bush* went ahead and appointed the bastard!:grr:

Of course, Bush* learned from the master. Reagan holds the record for recess appointments, and he's Bush*'s mentor. Bush* brought back the hard-liners that his own father threw out! Dammit all to hell! Everytime I think that his latest underhanded scheme is way over the top and that this has to be the one that'll bring him down, he manages to top himself!!! It's no wonder we've lost the respect and good will of the rest of the world community and, with a nutcase like Bolton in there, it's only going to get worse!!!:grr:

[madrchsod]

20. good news!

now the rest of the world will completely ignore the united states.they know the people of the united states care less about the un and they know the president couldn`t bring this guy to a vote.they will ignore him and his boss. yet another low point in what is left of our republic.

[Up2Late]

21. Bush bypasses Senate to install neo-con at UN (The Guardian)

( I really like the language The Guardian uses in this one)

3.30pm

Bush bypasses Senate to install neo-con at UN

James Sturcke and agencies
Monday August 1, 2005

The US president, George Bush, today bypassed the senate and installed the controversial neo-conservative John Bolton as ambassador to the UN.

Mr Bush took advantage of his power to fill vacancies without senate approval while Congress is in recess. Under the constitution, Mr Bolton's recess appointment during the senators' August break will last until the next session of Congress, which begins in January 2007.

"He will provide clear US leadership for reform," Mr Bush said. "He will insist on results. He believes in the goals of the UN, in peace and human rights." Mr Bush said Mr Bolton would bring two decades of "expertise and wisdom" to the role. He said Mr Bolton, in his current role as undersecretary of state for arms control, had shown "leadership preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction".

Mr Bolton told a press conference he was "profoundly honoured and humbled" by the appointment. "I am prepared to work tirelessly to carry out the agenda of the UN," he said. "I seek a stronger and more effective organisation."

<http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1540492,00.html?gusrc=rss>

(more at link above)

[Seabiscuit]

57. Can there be any doubt left that Bolton was responsible for the forged

Iraq-Niger-Uranium memo? What else can one make of this cowardly appointment, bypassing the Senate's insistence on Shrub producing documents about Bolton he doesn't want the Senate to see? What else could Shrub have possibly meant by his words:

Bolton... had shown "leadership preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction".

[Generator]

150. I agree

My only hope and it's fading faster than I can imagine is that Bolton is so dirty he will somehow be another link in the downfall. Which must happen or I see the end of the world-literally if the neo-cons get their way with it.

[Seabiscuit]

197. IMHO, the "end of the world" came and went in 2000. Since then we've

all been living in either hell or limbo, I can't decide which. :)

[despairing optimist]

122. Bolton "profoundly humbled." Ha! Thanks for my laugh of the day.

Now it's back to crying. Well, it was virtually inevitable, wasn't it, given the turn of events.

My question, though, is: How many straws will it take to break this camel's back? How much more of this stuff, from both factions of the Republicrat party, will the country take before it finds the backbone to leave them in the dustbin of history and move on to true progressivism?

[meganmonkey]

22. Guardian Headline:

No mincing words at the Guardian:

Bush bypasses Senate to install neo-con at UN

The US president, George Bush, today bypassed the senate and installed the controversial neo-conservative John Bolton as ambassador to the UN.
Mr Bush took advantage of his power to fill vacancies without senate approval while Congress is in recess. Under the constitution, Mr Bolton's recess appointment during the senators' August break will last until the next session of Congress, which begins in January 2007.

"He will provide clear US leadership for reform," Mr Bush said. "He will insist on results. He believes in the goals of the UN, in peace and human rights."

etc. etc

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1540492,00.html

[ProudDad]

99. Just as bush was installed in 2000

right-wing coup history repeats itself...

These bastards must be opposed by any means necessary!!

Lobby the world to oppose these un-American traitors!!! The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

[savemefromdumbya]

221. Call back Congress (from the beach) for an emergency meeting on Bolton?

If we have to wait til January we might as well do it now? Pack up your sunscreen and bathing suits and get back into the Capitol and do what you are paid to do!

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. So much for freedom and democracy

Bush is going to do whatever the fuck he pleases. Why shouldn't he? He always gets away with it anyway.

[BooScout]

25. Bush is a lily-livered yellowbellied snotty coward.

....and I expected no less from him than to do this.

[WhiteTara]

176. you left off ugly bully who like to watch things die eom

[Im_Your_Huckleberry]

26. ain't democracy great?

[shantipriya]

47. democracy

who said we have a democracy? I think we have a "nominal" democracy wherin every 2 to 4 years some people go to voting booths and vote like sheep.
we don't have a participatory democracy.

[intheflow]

30. Couldn't even wait 24-hours.

What a dickhead! What a pair of dickheads! :grr:

[rainbow4321]

34. Probably timed it for the "Saudi king died" headline

Since we know the media will look be looking for a distraction from chimpass's shenanigans...so now we will have the Saudi headline 24/7 and on the bottom of the screen scroll will be Bolton's "appointment".

So who does the US send to the funeral? Not Bolton, I hope...does chimp use the funeral as an excuse to flee the country for a few days to avoid Bolton coverage/questions??

[MaineDem]

39. Done now so he can leave DC and cut brush on the "ranch"

I detest this man so much I can't even express it!

[WhiteTara]

175. maybe when he falls off his bicycle

no one will pick him up. Or his chain saw will slip and... Or maybe Pickles will be so angry that he dissed her in front of the whole world, she will make his coffee with castor beans. Maybe the horse will stomp him. Okay, I am in fantasy land.

[Oldtimeralso]

207. Maybe the horse will stomp him.

He would have to learn how to ride first!

[WhiteTara]

211. oh so true

but I was thinking about him "milking" the horse.

[bribri16]

31. So much for bringing back "integrity and honesty" to the WH

Bush loves and supports liars and eveil doers just like himself.

[tinrobot]

33. President Veruca Salt

Couldn't even wait. He reminds me of that spoiled brat from the Willy Wonka movie.

"I want a pony NOW!"

[Up2Late]

36. News Hawks! Time to send an Angry e-mail to the AP for this anti-DEM

Wire report By TERENCE HUNT AP White House Correspondent! THIS is one of our MAJOR problems! This type of ANY Democrat reporting being repeated in every newspaper in the U.S.! :mad:

Aug 1, 11:31 AM EDT

Bush appoints Bolton as U.N. ambassador

By TERENCE HUNT
AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush sidestepped the Senate and installed embattled nominee John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations on Monday, ending a five-month impasse with Democrats who accused Bolton of abusing subordinates and twisting intelligence to fit his conservative ideology. "This post is too important to leave vacant any longer, especially during a war and a vital debate about UN reform," Bush said. He said Bolton had his complete confidence.

Bush put Bolton on the job in a recess appointment - an avenue available to the president when the Congress is in recess. Under the Constitution, a recess appointment during the lawmakers' August break would last until a newly elected Congress takes office in January 2007.

Bolton joined Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at the announcement ceremony and said he was honored and humbled by the president's appointment. "It will be a distinct privilege to be an advocate for America's values and interests at the U.N. and, in the words of the U.N. charter, to help maintain international peace and security," he said.

Bush said that Bolton's nomination had been supported by a majority of the Senate but that "because of partisan delaying tactics by a handful of senators, John was unfairly denied the up-or-down vote that he deserves." Bush had refused to give up on Bolton even though the Senate had voted twice to sustain a filibuster against his nominee. Democrats and some Republicans had raised questions about Bolton's fitness for the job, particularly in view of his harsh criticism of the United Nations.

<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/UN_AMBASSADOR?SITE=CTNHR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
(more at link above)

[despairing optimist]

126. The presidency: THAT post is too important to leave vacant any longer too!

Chimps just don't cut it. No wonder I haven't been able to buy decent bananas at the supermarket for the past 4 1/2 years.

[Rainscents]

38. Off the another war here we go!

Bush is one sick baster!!! He didn't waist no time appointing Bolton. Let see, Senates on recess as of last Friday and here is Monday... Wow, only 2 day???

Well, lets see how UN is going to vote on Bolton... If UN turn down Bolton conformation, what is Bush going to do? I bet he is going to cry fowl.:wtf: :freak: :mad:

[Vinca]

40. I wish I could find a magic lamp and get 3 wishes.

The first would involve jail cells for lots of people for many, many moons. Bush has got to be the most arrogant, egotistical asshole in the history of history. I figured he'd appoint Bolton, but I didn't know I'd be quite so mad when it happened.

[GoldenOldie]

45. Anyone remember the photo of Michael Dukakis wearing the helmet.

The Republicans used this photo of Dukakis riding in a tank wearing a required helmet as appearing not very intelligent and foolish.

I recently saw a photo of Bolton sitting in the bed of a truck wearing a kevlar vest and donning a helmet with his bush eyebrows and walrus mustach sticking out through the straps.

Can anyone find these and do a side-by-side with a good caption?

[bostonbabs]

141. great idea and will you tell me why

the picture of Bush giving the finger at a podium years ago is not plastered everywhere. It says it all..."/.F--- You America."I think that picture more than any words could convey will tell the truth.

[bspence]

41. I like the MSNBC poll:

Is it appropriate for President Bush to bypass the Senate and appoint John Bolton to be U.N. ambassador? * 38434 responses

Yes 26%
No 74%

Damn straight it's not appropriate. Bush continues with his abuse of power. The 26% saying yes are obviously Bush apologists who can't freakin' think for themselves.

[mike_c]

44. my letter....

Dear United Nations,

I'm writing to express my outrage that George W. Bush has bypassed the U.S. Senate confirmations process and appointed Mr. John Bolton to be the U.S. permanent ambassador to the United Nations. Mr. Bolton is a singularly bad choice for this position, and was unlikely to have been confirmed by the U.S. Senate. His appointment is the result of political maneuvering of the crassest sort.

Mr. Bolton does not represent me, nor does he represent the interests of the majority of Americans. I believe he was seated because the Bush administration wants a combative relationship with the United Nations that will undermine and disrupt the business of international diplomacy. John Bolton is a wrench thrown into the works-- a wrench thrown with utter contempt for the constitutional affirmation process customary in this nation. His appointment is yet another affront to the cause of peace, and I reject any notion that he represents my hopes for the future of international relations. Instead, he represents the worst aspects of arrogant imperialism and nationalism.

I urge the United Nations to refuse his credentials, or failing that, to recognize him for an imposter and to treat him with distain. He has usurped the ambassadorship. He is illegitimate. His credentials are not backed by the confidence of the people in whose names he is sent to the United Nations-- indeed, many in the U.S. are utterly horrified by his appointment, and deeply ashamed of the sequence of events that has led the world to this moment.

Respectfully yours,
/x/

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

212. That was beautiful!

I really hope you sent it to the UN! Now send it to the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, etc. etc. and see if one of them publishes it. How about Keith Olberman?

Bush is a smirking chimp; pompous, arrogant ASSHOLE! My hope of hopes is that Judy Miller talked to old handlebar John about the Plame affair. Do hope Judy likes her new accommodations 'cause if it was old "handlebars" she talked to she is going to be there until January of 2007!

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[Justitia]

56. First time since 1948 that an American ambassador was not recommended

Do you think it is for a good reason that this hasn't happened in almost 60 years?????

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[Justitia]

71. NEVER to the UNITED NATIONS - EVER

An "outpost appointment" made to a peaceful, singular country is entirely different from representing the ENTIRE UNITED STATES in the most powerful international body - complete w/voting rights to invade countries and start wars and send troops.

I mean, can you see the glaring difference between sitting on the freaking international security council voting to invade Iran and being an American host to the National Chocolate Festival in Luxembourg?????

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[Justitia]

82. How much more clear can I be? NEVER to the UN - EVER

Do you equate the two diplomatic appts (outpost of tiny, peaceful Luxembourg to the entire United Nations)?

Are you aware that diplomatic vs other appts were created by different types of law (statute vs Constitutional & International)?

For you to postulate that bypassing the US Senate in our country's most sensitive diplomatic role of all - FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN HISTORY - is the same as appointing the ambassador to tiny Luxembourg who was held up ONLY BECAUSE HE WAS A HOMOSEXUAL, that is mind boggling!

:wtf:

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[Justitia]

90. I hear ya. The "willful ignorance" thing just drives me up the wall

some days, although I normally don't bother. I had just watched Caligula's press conference and my jaw was still hanging open when I saw that "what's the big deal anyway" post.

None are so blind as those that will not see, and all that jazz.

Now I've had a second cup of coffee and am much better - LOL.

[despairing optimist]

128. Please don't insult Caligula. He had better taste than *

He appointed his favorite horse to the Roman senate. The Romans were better off. At least they got some fertilizer in the deal.

[Vickers]

61. Bwahahahahaha, that's awesome!!!!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:








Oh, you were serious.

Sorry.

[ClintonTyree]

77. I can't believe he hasn't been tombstoned yet either..........

but I guess we're going to have to put up with this shit for a while longer. Mr. 5 posts is saying it's all OK, what's the problem? :eyes:

[ClintonTyree]

74. Not until 2007.........

He's free to fuck up as many things as possible until then, and believe me, he'll relish the chance.

I think it would be great if everyone in the U.N. just ignored him. Not schedule any meetings with him, attend no meeting called by him, just ignore him like a speck on the wall.

Fuck Bolton, Fuck Bush Fuck this entire administration. I cannot fathom the hate I feel for these people. I have never hated like this before, but there's never been people this down-right fucking evil in charge of our government before. That includes Tricky-Dickey and St. Ronnie the Vegetable as well.

I never thought I was capable of this much hate. I need a fucking time out, everyone. :grr:

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[sattahipdeep]

115. And for those of you who support this Thug- go fuk yerself. n/t

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

213. And I say....

"HERE, HERE!" I'll second that!

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[CAcyclist]

171. You Join Up too

Start putting your body where your mouth is or STFU

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[SCRUBDASHRUB]

184. Welcome to DU, NuConvert.

[CAcyclist]

157. Then Volunteer For The Military Now

You think its so reasonable - we're going to need a bunch more people to invade Iran now, since that's Bolton's job - setting up the scenario for an American invasion of Iran. Go suit up.

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[buddha8]

48. Hitler

I suggest that people better start waking up very fast to the reality of what is really going on here. Bolton is not only a very typical and predictable middle finger to the world by the bush-monkey, it is an in-your-face proclamation of naked power. We are now fully under the sway of a one party system of autocracy very much like what happened in Germany by 34'. The only difference being that it is not necessary to abolish the Democratic Party by law as long as it is effectively neutered which it now is. Bolton is essentially the liason for War with Iran and will be needed to plant and foster lies in the U.N. toward that effect and bully anyone openly who opposes him. This will be the next move. I would anticipate as well since the Bush-Hitler paradigm is now consolidating very rapidly that Martial Law will be declared at some point soon enough in order to outlaw dissent. Martial law will be declared if a domestic terror attack should happen. There is little question in my mind about this. A move will be made against the last remaining bastion of true dissent in America, the Internet. They will move full force to outlaw alternative sites as subversive. They now have all the power. People are in incredible denial about this, most especially liberals. All week long we will hear the whining from progressives about Bolton. But what did anyone expect. We live under a rapidly consolidating Facism that is well into its middle stages. The next stage will be the roundups and the openly naked scapegoating of identified sectors of society including intellectuals and Arab-Americans. People need to wake up very fast or just get out and try to find safe ground elsewhere. There is literally no longer any recourse within this 'system' for justice, checks,balances or mercy.

[Sugarcoated]

49. more proof

that he's a thug

[Seabiscuit]

63. If that is indeed the script being played out, then the only patriotic

and Constitutional choice available now is armed revolution.

[ProudDad]

109. Not armed revolution

that couldn't be won.

But determined resistance by any means necessary! Lobby the rest of the world to help us in our hour of need.

Our country has been taken over by a right-wing fascist coup and we need the help of good people throughout the world.

We must monkey-wrench the economy -- don't buy their crap. Cancel your cable! Don't buy a new car! Don't buy anything you don't absolutely need and if you do buy, buy second-hand or from a locally owned non-chain business. DON'T BUY A NEW CAR!!! Don't drive except when absolutely necessary. Starve the beast and he will die...

[Seabiscuit]

194. That just won't work. Americans are too conditioned to their buying habit

I still say the only choice is armed revolution, given your scenario - with the help of the rest of the world, for sure. They have as much at stake in this as we do.

[sattahipdeep]

86. ''I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."

Bolton was in South Korea on an AEI assignment when he received a call from long-time
mentor James Baker, who was leading the charge on the Florida recount in 2000. Baker
told him to get on the next plane, which he did. After working as a lawyer with the
Republican team in Florida, he grabbed reporters' attention when he burst into a
Tallahassee library announcing ''I'm with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop
the count."

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=252671

[despairing optimist]

131. If what you're saying is true, I'm glad I live in NYC for the next attack

I'd rather be ashes than live through what you're saying will come next. Just let me know where to stand when the nuke hits, and I'll be seeing ya.

[TankLV]

143. Again - can't disagree with a single thing you said, or how you said it.

Very sad times.

[LibertyorDeath]

195. Excellent post buddha8 ... Well said

Welcome to DU

"They now have all the power. People are in incredible denial about this, most especially liberals. All week long we will hear the whining from progressives about Bolton. But what did anyone expect. We live under a rapidly consolidating Facism that is well into its middle stages"

[Justitia]

50. CALIGULA appoints his HORSE, then runs away to pig farm to hide -eom

[sattahipdeep]

105. Bolton thwarted the Kerry Commission’s efforts to obtain documentation,

including Bolton’s personal notes, about the Iran-Contra affair and
alleged Contra drug smuggling.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/bolton/bolton.php

[FighttheFuture]

51. Our non-benevolent Dictator decrees once again, Heil Bushler!!

Now we have to see if Bolton will (can) be removed by criminal actions in the Plame case.

Until then, we have lost even more respect in the world, if that is even possible after 5 years of the Bush Crime Family and the their Repuglican henchmen.

Will it take the collapse of this entire country to remove these criminals, and their shadowy backers from power? By then, would it even matter?

[Lowell]

52. Another Bush Victory

One good point is that this appointment doesn't fool anyone. Victory=Failure Bush could not bully Bolton through the Senate. For an administration fighting for credibility this just makes them all the more irrelevant.

[54anickel]

181. That's the scary part - they aren't fighting for credibility anymore -

they don't give a shit and they don't need it. It's all in place now. Patriot Act II, Bolton, no torture ban (thanks to holding off the DOD bill), protection for gun dealers (Bubba can go ahead and arm the RW militia), and the beginnings of a huge culture war.

What really was behind bumping up that NRA bill over and above the DOD bill? We'll never know the complete story, but they seem to do everything toward some hidden agenda.

http://www.progressiveu.org/node/576/trackback

Today Senate Democrats fought to continue the debate on the Defense Authorization Bill. The majority Republicans have been trying to invoke cloture, which would suspend debate and force a vote on this bill after a two day period. This would allow time for a Gun Bill proposed by the NRA to slip through right before the summer session ends later this week. Democratic Senators Reid and Durbin (pictured) along with Levin and Landrieu argued Senators Frist and Warner before a cloture vote. The vote was 50-48 in favor of not invoking cloture. This was a huge victory for Minority Leader Reid and the Democrats, stalling the bill through the August recess so it could be further discussed and amended with the intention of passage in September.

The minority Democrats' success comes as a surprise to most, but their argument was strong. Reid questioned the Republicans' integrity. "Are you telling this chamber and the people of the United States that after spending 31 days on judicial nominees and two weeks on credit card special interests we will only spend two days on a DoD Authorization Bill during a time of war?" Senator Durbin added, "Is the majority stating that a special interest gun bill put forth by the NRA is more important than the security of our military in the time of war?"

It appears that the scandal-ridden Republicans wanted to stop the bleeding when Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) embarassedly called for a Roll Call vote after the fierce questioning by the Democrats. It's likely now that they will quietly take this defeat into the August recess without trying to pass any further legislation.

[Algorem]

53. Recess bully needs a "punch in the nose".

[Frederik]

55. Meanwhile, in Iran...

TEHRAN Iranian technicians were scheduled to break United Nations seals on the Isfahan nuclear plant Monday, allowing uranium processing to resume, a spokesman for Iran's Supreme National Security Council said.

Officials from the UN's nuclear watchdog agency will supervise the removal of the seals, the first step toward restarting the Isfahan Nuclear Conversion Facility, said Ali Agha Mohammadi, spokesman for Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

In Brussels, the European Commission urged Iran on Monday not to resume nuclear work, which the West believes could help it develop a bomb."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/08/01/news/nukes.php

[LibertyorDeath]

202. This is all the excuse crashcart will need

"TEHRAN Iranian technicians were scheduled to break United Nations seals on the Isfahan nuclear plant Monday"

The neo-cons are chomping at the bit to get into Iran.
Scott Ritter and Sy Hersh have been warning the American public about this for months and months.

they're going to start the "danger may come in the form of a mushroom cloud" bullshit again for mass consumption by the sheeple.

The stakes don't get any higher they will provoke Russia & China
and display their fascist face for all the World to see when they attack Iran.

[Frederik]

206. The stakes are as high as they get

This is a moment comparable to the Cuban missile crisis. Not because of the minuscule or non-existant threat posed by Iran, but because of the threat posed by Cheney & his lackey Bolton.

[mistertrickster]

58. Bush gives the world THE FINGER without even lifting a finger.

"A most notable coward, an infinite liar, an hourly promise-breaker, with no single good quality . . . " Shakespeare from "As You Like It," in a prescient description of our 43rd President.

[LynneSin]

59. Once again the United States says "FUCK YOU" to the rest of the world

No wonder they all hate us

:cry:

[Initech]

87. Yeah, this Bolton thing was pretty much a gigantic middle finger...

To the rest of the world. BU$H must be impeached!

[high density]

60. Ah, Bush wasting more the "political capital" that he doesn't have

Whatever. I hope that America gets tired of these corrupt GOP power grabs sooner rather than later.

[FighttheFuture]

248. Just like wiht our economy and the record growing deficits...

Bush, the Borrow and Beg boy King. Spending us all into oblivion!!

[Why Syzygy]

64. To "help the UN REFORM itself" no less ! !

Someone needs to go back to REFORM school. Lesson not learned.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CPolitics%5Carchive%5C200508%5CPOL20050801b.html

...The new ambassador's mission is "to help the U.N. reform itself to renew its founding promises for the 21st century," Bush said, adding that Bolton "will make it clear that America values the potential of the United Nations to be a source of hope and dignity and peace.

Peace? Dignity? I think not.

Morons.

[truthisfreedom]

65. someone please explain this to me. in many other threads on this subject,

other people have pointed out that the Constitution clearly states that bush can only make recess appointments for positions that open during the recess.

the UN Ambassador position opened long before the recess started.

what gives?

[demobrit]

68. Bush is just following the constitution

There is much frustration on this thread which is understandable but President Bush is just adhering to the constitution.
As an interested outsider whose spouse is an American it seems that the Democrats need to become a credible alternative by aggressive marketing in the media and on the doorstep in order to regain power in congress.
If the constitution needs to be ammended to curb the President`s power than this needs to be done by the ballot box

[Justitia]

83. No, it is a clear abuse of power and horribly bad judgement.

Diplomatic appts were created by different laws than other appts (Constitutional & International vs federal statute) and the president is more limited within this realm.

He may be trying to claim he is technically "toeing the line", but we are talking an entirely different sort of diplomatic appt with all the powers that arise from an appt to the United Nations, given our position within that organization.

Not to mention, he is creating radical history - this has NEVER been done in the history of the United Nations - EVER.

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[WhiteTara]

177. did you say you were a US constitutional lawyer?

Clean your own house, before you try to clean ours.

[demobrit]

229. Free Speech

:argh:

[WhiteTara]

238. for both of us.

sorry, I am a little on the fried side and to watch your poodle stick his nose up our bush, makes me a bit defensive about the problems we seem unable to resolve.

[demobrit]

242. I agree...

These are difficult times for all of us who value our liberties. I understand your frustration regarding the poodle and the chimp.



:toast:

[WhiteTara]

243. BTW welcome to the fray...er DU

:toast:

[demobrit]

230. Yes, I agree whole heartly with your comment

so before deeming the Brits as fascist and racists 'you should clean your own house before you try to clean ours'. I came onto this site to learn about your country because of my wife(BTW-who by the way is a democrat). It seems to me that some people on this site don't want to hear other people perceptions and point of views without degenerating into racial abuse. Isn't that what democracy is? Isn't that the values of this site? To hear one's view and debate intelligently without attacking a person's character, race or country.

[FighttheFuture]

247. It's an abuse of constitutional power...

The recess appointments were created in the day when Congress would be in recess and unavailable for months; hence the name recess appointment. News would take days and weeks to get around and issues could take months to resolve. This provided the President, who lives in Washington, the ability to conduct affairs of the country until Congress was reconvened to exercise its "advise and consent" to the President's nominations.

All Bush is doing is play little dictator, as he said he wanted to do on several occasions. For example:

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html


I hope I have helped you understand what the the spirit and intent of this law is. It was not to allow the President to play a spoiled little boy-King. What Bush is doing with these high profile recess appointments is abusive to our country, and our Democracy of the People, by the People and for the People.

Amending the Constitution is a dangerous game. Better for the opposition party, invertebrae known as Democrats, to start educating what is happening. Of course, given the state of our MSM, that would be rather difficult even for a real opposition party.



To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.
-- G. K. Chesterton

[acmavm]

69. I knew he'd do this. So did everyone here who has the capacity of

coherent, logical thought. But even though I knew the arrogant worthless impostor piece of shit was going to do it, I wasn't prepared for how frigging angry I am right now.

[Ron Mexico]

70. This is why elections count.

If we had run a competent candidate, one capable of defeating a moron like Bush in anything other than a debate (anyone on this board could out-debate Bush), we wouldn't be in this mess.

I hate Bush more than Kerry, but not much more. Kerry's incompetence gave us four more years of this fucking dolt. I know most people here will disagree with me, but fuck, I'm livid. I knew we'd lose as soon as the convention began. We did exactly in 2000 what the Repugs did in 1996 - we nominated a hopeless asshole.

So now we have a recess appointment. I'm not terribly high on the UN, so I don't think anyone else would have HELPED, but Bush actually found someone with the potential to make it WORSE.

Elections count. Fuck me, elections count.

[dajoki]

72. they know they can...

get away with anything they want. maybe this will open some eyes.:wtf:

[dchill]

73. Not like it's anything new...

Bush got himself installed as president and bypassed the American people five years ago. He's stayed "above the fray" of democracy eversince. It's just another flip-off.

[AtomicKitten]

76. This particular appointment will bite BushCo in the ass.

This is perhaps the WORST appointment EVER, and I predict this one will really stick in the craw of the general public, hell, in the world. This is the epitome of bad judgment, and there has been much material provided by BushCo in that regard. The audacity of bypassing the Senate is breathtaking.

[connecticut yankee]

78. Does anyone still doubt

that we're living under a dictatorship?

[sattahipdeep]

93. “People ask what job John should get,” Cheney said, “My answer is,

anything he wants.

[quiet.american]

84. Question: What good is the rule of law?

So, if one can lie to Congress and not even have, say, an official reprimand entered into your record, what good is the rule of law? If there is no consequence for lying under oath, why can't we all go hog-wild and do whatever the hell we want to do?

Every man and woman for themselves!

[sattahipdeep]

101. According to an investigative report by the

Washington Post ( April 9, 2001), Bolton was on the
payroll of the Taiwan government before joining the Bush administration.

John Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, rejects the legitimacy of international law—at least when
international conventions, treaties, and norms constrain what he regards as U.S. national
interests. Bolton also has a record of questionable legal and ethical dealings at home.

Much more
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/bolton/bolton.php

[quiet.american]

189. Thanks for the link -- very informative. n/t

[LibertyorDeath]

199. There is no recourse to the Law

None

As an American citizen you can be arrested & held without charge indefinitely on the say so of the "president"

Most Americans think oh this doesn't apply to me this only applies to those nasty terrorists.

WRONG WRONG WRONG It applies to anyone this regime wants it to apply to.

[quiet.american]

220. Exactly. n/t

[shantipriya]

85. Bolton

I am really sick and disgusted at the workings of American "democracy".And the stupid and idiotic populace which condones and approves of the actions of this Administration.

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[ProudDad]

114. Another Freeper?

acad1228 --

this "horrid body"???

sounds like another right-wing freeper on the list...

Welcome, pig...

[neverforget]

134. Bolton fits your President to a "T"- arrogant, shallow, callous,

self-righteous, liar and a bully.

[dchill]

91. Another dirty job done - now off to the ranch.

Being pretensident is HARD WORK. He deserves another month off to get ready for the nex' terriss attack.

[volitionx]

92. One Invasion of IRAN, Coming Up!!!

This is all about invading Iran, dissing/bypassing the U.N., and spreading Bushco's Global Corporate Empire.

Of course Bush appointed Bolton during the recess. Bush is a fucking FASCIST.

Neo-cons are F..A..S..C..I..S..T..S.

The Bushes are a C..R..I..M..E.....F..A..M..I..L..Y.

When you combine fascist neo-cons with a fascist crime family, you get shit like Bolton.

It'll get WAY worse before it gets better.

When you add up ALL of the neo-cons'/Bush's crimes and scams, it's mind-boggling.

It seems that Americans get the leaders they deserve. The PROBLEM is that people with BRAINS get punished along with them. We all suffer together for the IDIOCY of Bush's supporters, and I'm fucking sick as fuck of it.

We'd better kick some serious ASS in 2006 and 2008 or we're FUCKED. The longer we wait, the more entrenched the neo-cons get, like fucking parasites. Yeah, people are getting more and more outraged, and more informed about the neo-con scam, but day by day we're losing our power to do anything about it.

Remember: Your government can nab you and throw you in secret detention forever with no lawyer, no charges filed against you, no habeas corpus, and no hope for release. THAT'S THE SORT OF FASCISM WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.

Do you see the situation getting better every day? Are things reversing course? Are the neo-cons getting penitent? Can you see their consciences emerging? Are they starting to tell us the truth? Are they starting to listen to us?

No fucking way. We're in HUGE trouble. The whole world is.

We have to get SERIOUS. NEVER back down if you're challenged by righties. NEVER hedge your real opinions. Speak out at every opportunity. Don't be a "good German" for fuck's sake.

[ProudDad]

117. Elections aren't enough

We must resist every way we can.

We must lobby the rest of the world's people to help us...

The elections in this country are rigged from beginning to end -- they are corrupted by money and run by crooks. They always have been and always will be...

And the system's rigged. We do NOT have a democracy, never did.

[PassingFair]

196. Huge welcome, VolitionX!

You sound like I did in 2002!
I haven't backed down in a street fight since * stole the whole enchilada in '00.
Every time we get up a head of steam, our own party cuts us off at the legs and delivers us up to the cosa nostra we call the administration.

I'm glad you're REALLY mad, we need your fire...

[LibertyorDeath]

223. To far to many Americans it's just the sideshow of politics

when in reality an autocratic regime has gained control of ALL the levers of power

As you so aptly say

"We're in HUGE trouble. The whole world is"

Welcome volitionx

[ClintonTyree]

251. Right you are, about Iran..........

they needed Bolton in place to successfully bypass the U.N. to further their Crusade against Islam. bush is going to get his dick caught in a big wringer when he does that. That won't be anything like invading a broken, toothless country like Iraq. And look at the problem we're having there, just keeping up with "insurgents"!
The PNACers have outpaced themselves, they've decimated our armed forces yet they'll continue their Crusade against Islam with reckless abandon.

How many more Americans will have to die before the American people say, "ENOUGH", and kick this SOB out of office? :shrug:

Bolton......fucking Bolton. THE WORST possible person for the job and bush installs him behind the country's back. I can't handle this shit any more. Democracy is dead.

[ProudDad]

94. Let's all lobby the U.N. diplomats

to cut this joker a new asshole.

Bolton can be and should be cut to pieces up at the U.N.

Since the entire bush admin and their right-wing "revolution" is un-American and evil, evil, evil; it would be VERY patriotic to oppose them and their minions in every manner possible.

Supporting the rational voices in the U.N. against this irrational right-wing, fascist, idealogue is PATRIOTIC and pro-American.

Call the representative of any nation you feel affinity or kinship with. This right-wing coup must be opposed by any means necessary!!!!

http://www.un.org/english/

I tried to find contact email addresses and couldn't. I guess I'll have to send Kofi a letter - one Earth patriot to another.

[confludemocrat]

174. Yes, Every good citizen needs to lobby the world to help us fight Bush

Forget about writing letters to Congress, they have been of no help. We need to appeal to our brethren overseas. HELP! SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!!!!

[CAcyclist]

185. Good Idea

My email:

Dear Kofi Annan and the UN Council,

I am an American citizen and I vehemently reject John Bolton's representation of my country. His is an illegitimate appointment that Bush should never have made.

I know that with Bolton in place at the UN, the US will move quickly to press for invasion of Iran. I oppose this with every fiber of my being.

Please do not let the UN be bullied or persuaded to support the US Bush Administration's quest for perpetual war. In fact, please move to stop it. Cut off our oil, freeze our assets - do what it takes to stop us now before the neo-cons in the White House forget that nuclear war threatens the entire planet.

[JRob]

96. We need Bush out NOW!!!

Fucking outrageous!!!

[Peace Patriot]

OF COURSE this is outrageous--but so was the appointment of torture

memo writer Alberto Gonzales to be chief law enforcement officer of the U.S.

But until we have restored our right to vote--and have thrown Bushite electronic voting companies out of our election system (with their secret, proprietary programming code--I mean, come on....)--we will have nothing to say about it. The Bush Cartel knows that it has guaranteed power forevermore. That's why they are doing so many things--indeed, everything--against the will of the majority of Americans.

58% of Americans opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. I'll never forget that stat. Feb. '03. The war was prosecuted against the will of the majority. And the opposition is even greater now.

63% of Americans oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. May '04. Did that stop them--or even give them pause--as to appointing the author of the torture policy as Å.G.?

You name it--war, torture, Social Security, the deficit, women's rights--the great majority of Americans oppose Bush policy, way up in the 60% to 70% range (and that's in news monopoly polls! Imagine what unprejudiced polls would show!)

We need to restore transparency and verifiability to our election system. This is still doable at the state/local level, where the power over election systems still resides, and where ordinary people still have some influence.

And if we don't take this "window of opportunity"--the power over election systems still residing in state/local venues--we can kiss our democracy goodbye.

Some think it's gone already. Not yet. Not yet, friends. Not quite.

Get busy!

[ProudDad]

106. The United States of America

was NEVER a democracy.

It's a constitutional Republic. It has built in safe-guards for the rich and powerful against the "mod".

Anyone who thinks that our system is a democracy is pissin' in the wind. Don't expect a democracy here until after the revolution...

[Justitia]

108. .

[TankLV]

146. Study up on the concept of "democracy".

Being a "constitutional republic" does not automatically negate the FACT that the US is a DEMOCRACY.

More repuke conservative rush bullshit from you is not welcome.

[ProudDad]

156. Excuse me

In a country where getting the majority of the vote for President (2000) doesn't qualify you for the office?

You have a rather facile definition of democracy.

Oh, I see your problem now. I misspelled "mob" as "mod". Ah, I understand your confusion...freepers can't spell... :)

[anitar1]

167. Thank You, Proud Dad. I have been saying this forever

but most people really believe we are a Democracy. After all , our government has been telling us this for as long as I remember. Alnost everyone bought it. Repeat it enough and it is considered fact.

[sattahipdeep]

110. cheny......Office of Economic Opportunity:

Special Assistant to Director Donald Rumsfeld, 1969-1971

[stepnw1f]

98. Here Comes WWIII

Bank on it. The shit will hit the fan now....

[mzteris]

102. Silver lining?

When Bolton gets nailed along with Rove and Libby in the Plame Affair.... it'll be all the more sweeter and further erode what little clout bushco has left.

[shantipriya]

178. Plame and Bolton

Nothing is going to come about re Plame investigation. Remember, this is NOT a functioning democracy. It is a one-party system . The country is in the hands of ruthless people who would not stop at anything to remain in power!

[mzteris]

210. Please don't be so negative

Much of the public is ignorant, yes, but given incontrovertible evidence - I think the "majority" will see the light about these lying b@st@rds. (At least I hope so.) I have to hope so. To think anything less is much too depressing.

[Mr. Peanut]

233. At least Bolton got boo-ed...

by people on the street as he walked from his limo to his (I assume) new office. That encouraged me that folks are growing more and more tired of Bush's slimy ways.

[mzteris]

239. See?

There ARE some intelligent (if ill-mannered) people left in America! LOL.....

[shantipriya]

179. Plame and Bolton

Nothing is going to come about re Plame investigation. Remember, this is NOT a functioning democracy. It is a one-party system . The country is in the hands of ruthless people who would not stop at anything to remain in power!

[LeahD]

104. Primal Scream! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

112. ok if anybody is surprised they have not been paying attetion

[derby378]

In other news: Count Dracula appointed head of blood bank

Film at 11! Not for the squeamish!

God help us. We knew * was dirty enough to pull this, but I think a lot of us were holding out some faint glimmer of hope that he'd pull back. But hey, a "focus group" consisting of hundreds of millions of people from America, the UK, and Europe couldn't talk * out of invading Iraq for "the boys" in the corporate fascist boardroom, so Bolton was a piece of cake.

[sattahipdeep]

119. Bingo.n/t

[oasis]

113. Bolton goes to the UN with a scalet letter on his forehead: "W".

[derby378]

123. Watch that "W" morph into a swastika

This'll be loads of fun...

[dbonds]

116. Isn't Bolton supposed to be in place before he launches a war on Iran?

I remember something about that from previous post. Bolton helped with plans and needed to be in the UN before it happens.

[Norwood]

118. Not surprised

We all just knew it was gonna happen. What an arrogant son of a bitch.

[ElectroPrincess]

127. The only way we will win in the end is send a strong message to the DLC

by NOT voting for ANY corporate ass-kissing, war-mongering democrats.

I'm in awe at how "out of touch" Hillary Clinton is with the average WORKING Democrat (accumulated wealth under $300,000). Unless the Democratic Representatives LISTEN to their base, I foresee *huge* losses in 2006. And I don't give a damn. It's tragic that we have to suffer because our Democratic Leaders won't listen. Make them hurt, then they will do what's right.

It's not just the Republicans in power who are behaving like arrogant a**holes. Where the HELL is the loyal opposition?

[despairing optimist]

138. The Democratic party elites are on the corporate take too.

No news there. Large corporations control both Democratic and Republican parties. Nader may be a dirty word around here, but he got that right. There will be no change in the Democratic party until it casts off the influence of big corporations and any other big money it welcomes. Until then we can wail and gnash our teeth at every bad turn of events that comes our way, and many more will follow. There needs to be a purge of the Democratic party: all those who favor continued deep-pocket big-money contributors either get shown the door or everyone else leaves the tent, just as what happened with the AFL-CIO when SEIU and the Teamsters walked out.

There are so many committed, progressive activists on DU. So many intelligent people. Why on earth do they stay in the Democratic party as it now stands, wasting their time and talent for . . . Joe Biden, the Clintons, and whoever else the elites force down their throats? Day after day, stories like these demonstrate the futility of supporting a party that is so obviously bankrupt. It's time to leave it and form something from the ground up.

[ProudDad]

164. The quickest way to win is

to take over the dem party.

Until there's a Labor Party, a party for the Working Class, there will be no justice in the U.S.of A.

The path of least Resistance is to pool our resources and take over the dems (that's why I like MoveOn, Dean, et. all) and kick out the corporations who won't agree to humane values. Any other approach can't work in this rigged electoral system with which we've been saddled.

[despairing optimist]

168. I've warily supported Dean with (for me) lots of money

He seems to be tilting more rightward since he's headed the DNC, and remember his family's Park Avenue/Wall Street roots. But as Al Sharpton said, he's riding this donkey as far as it will get him, so I see your point. This native is getting restless, though.

[LibertyorDeath]

205. The Vichy Dem contingent are hard at work

ensuring their corporate masters & busholinie are pleased with them.

[maddezmom]

129. not a surprise, but still repugnant

more if the same bullshit

[jwirr]

132. I have a vital question - can this sob do this with a

supreme court position? If so the dems will have to stop taking recesses.

[Name removed]

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[JohnnyRingo]

135. John Bolton doesn't know the meaning of the word "diplomacy"

Oddly enough, that's the repubs best argument to appoint him as "diplomat".

I imagine he'll go into the UN...Make his demands....And sit back and await compliance.

And await
And await, and await.

Nice job George, you have an uncanny talent for appointing exactally the wrong people everytime.

[Ilsa]

137. Then I bet Bush* scrambled his cowardly ass over to

Air Force 1 for a long vacation to Crawford where he can pretend to be a cowboy. He would be better off trying to pretend to be a gardener with all that brush clearing.

[W2Hague]

139. Abscess Appointment

I've prepared a little Flash Animation salute to Mr. Bush's "pick" for Ambassador to the UN. It can be viewed at ----------->

http://www.bruindesign.com


Peace
D.L. Bruin
BruinDesign.com
Dedicated to Regime Change at Home

[gridbug]

140. Sorry, but FUCK the Democrats.

I know, that was a pretty harsh thing to say, but how many more outrages like this do we have to witness before anything gets done? The Democratic party is the only other viable choice to restoring the American politcial system, but they're sitting on their hands again and again as Bush continually sodomizes every last one of us while ensuring that future generations will have no chance to set things right. The Democrats have missed opportunity after opportinity to unite, stand up and say enough is enough. There is no reason in this world why they can't do their fucking jobs and boot that arrogant asshole out by whatever means necessary. If they love this country and only want to see what's best for it, they would have acted back in 2000 after the election was stolen. By their inaction, the Democrats on the hill are basically siding with the NeoCons who are intent on ruining the country for their own selfish goals. Enough is enough. The Democratic party needs to find a voice and use it NOW. Tomorrow is too late. Shit, TODAY is too late. Not surprisingly, none of this brings me any comfort. It's a rallying cry on deaf ears. I know right from wrong, and there's so much wrong going on with the counterfeit Bush administration... where the hell is ANYONE with the courage to stand up and get the ball rolling on impeachment, incarceration, JUSTICE? John Conyers is one in a million, but without the support of his fellow Democrats, he's just pissing into the wind. I'm sorry to be so negative, but I've had it. Inaction is no excuse. Not with so much at stake. And still, they do nothing of any real consequence to change things. I wonder if they ever will.

[Generator]

153. Your sentiments are shared by many here

And it took me awhile too...but if you haven't figured it out now..it may be too late. Though my motto (it was a personal thing-don't know if it applies to the political) is it's never too late. There is a song by Midnight Oil...and it's about not giving up on old planet earth even as she lays dying.

[laylah]

209. Why F*CK the Dems?

They held out, waiting for the paperwork they had requested months ago! That spineless PRICK * is the one to blame, NOT the dems! :mad:

Jenn

[daleo]

148. Bolton = PNAC (just a little reminder)

Bolton's lack of regard for the U.N. is clearly stated in this letter. He was also dead wrong about Saddam's WMD, but then he knew that at the time. He will be PNAC's point man at the U.N. for further invasions:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:
...
That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power...The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power....We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

[Rhiannon12866]

149. On CNN just now...

Question: And what do you think went wrong with this nomination, that caused Democrats to get their back up?
:wow:

MY ANSWER (delivered out loud to the TV): Because he's an asshole!!!:grr:

I totally ignored the "official" answer to this question because they were asking Norm Coleman!!! What did they expect he would say?! So much for the "liberal media!":grr:

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[Tempest]

152. The U.S. was the biggest winner in the food-for-oil scandal

Look up Bay Company.

And Bolton will be completely ignored and useless at the U.N.


Enjoy your VERY short stay.

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[Catherine Vincent]

160. Bush is no leader.

He's a fucking dumbass! And you voted for him. Yah idiot!

[Tempest]

163. Hitler said it best

"It is good for leaders that men don't think."

[Tempest]

162. Nice rant

Now do you care to address my post directly, or is that too much for you to handle?

[ProudDad]

158. another Freeper

They're out in great number today...

You can tell by the smell...

[Tempest]

161. It's the stench of desperation

Their talking points about the Plame scandal has fallen flat, Bolton will be completely ineffective at the U.N. and once again Bush looks like a dictator for bypassing Congress in appointing him.

The wheels are falling off the cart.

[SeattleGirl]

159. * is still blowing up frogs

As a rational, reasonable person, the question that comes to mind is, "Does this guy just deliberately pick people/policies that will do the greatest harm?" And before the question is even out, I know that the answer is, Yes, he does. This Bolton thing is just the latest version of blowing up frogs, only now the target seems to be the United States and the rest of the world. I think he gets great joy out of doing things like this, not because he's "resolute" or "a leader" (oh puke!), or whatever the description of the day is for *. No, I think it is just another manifestation of his sadistic nature, and I think he is truly INCAPABLE of caring about anybody. Really. I think he's definitely missing that capacity. We are truly living in Bizarro World.



:crazy:

[Tempest]

165. You are so right

Very well put.

And a belated welcome to DU. :hi:

[SeattleGirl]

166. Thanks.

B-)

[donheld]

169. How long till Bolton makes us even more hated

If we really can get more hated.

[WhiteTara]

173. the move itself has made us more hated

The whole thing depressed me so much I had to go back to bed. I am disoriented and wondering what world I woke up in. Sadly it is still the same one I tried to escape with sleep.

[chookie]

170. How will they measure his job performance?

Bolton is going to be a controversial disaster. The work of the UN is going to come to a standstill. Bolton will be hated, and Bush will be hated yet more. At a time where we need to be reaching out to others, Bush has chosen to antagonize other countries. Diplomacy as an option to settle disputes will be eliminated, and warfare -- and terrorism -- will be seen as the only course of action. There will be grave consequences. We WILL see, not only the continuation of violence in Iraq and Israel, but a widening of the war to include other Arab nations.

Obviously, Bolton has been appointed to create further chaos and destablization. The more poorly he does his job, the more "successful" he will be considered by the NeoCons.

There is an upside -- Bolton will be so disastrous that his antics will turn yet more Americans against Bush and his NeoCon agenda, because Bolton personifies it crudely. Bush will be weakened, even as he thinks he is getting over. Impeachment, by sane Republicans, could well be the inevitable outcome.

[confludemocrat]

172. Bush really does hate America and it looks like big Democrats are OK w/

that. Maybe they hate America too because that is why there is no major outcry from any of the big Demo (pop)guns on this yet another episode of Bush shitting on us all, us all being every citizen of this nation. Depressing.

[yojon]

180. If BushCo's intention is to destroy the US

(as everything he has done so far seems to indicate), the Bolton is the perfect nominee. We will be universally detested and isolated.


btw.... how about that 'deal' those 14 senators made not to fillibuster except in 'extraordianary circumstances'. That is toast since BushCo doesnt give a shit about the Senate anyway.

[PDXWoman]

182. I've never in my life

Hated anyone worse! I hate that bastard and can't stand to look at him anymore.

[V Lee]

183. Bush to Senate (and 74% of Americans): "F--- You!"

>> What’s on Bill’s mind? Political commentary with attitude and more at http://www.BillsBrain.com

[Fla4kerry]

188. Let's wait and see what th eUN

will do in response to this appointment. From all accounts the leaders in the UN do not like this Asshole any more than the majority of the American people. Our hope is that they will ignore him in any attempts to change the policies of the UN.. This will be interesting to see..Believe me they won't let him change anything. He is only there for 1 year. After that I'm not sure what happens if the Senate has to vote for him again? any one know the answer?

Organize Now !!

[Seabiscuit]

201. I can't imagine anyone in the U.N. allowing Bolton to "change UN policy".

I don't even think Bush knows what he means when he says Bolton will "reform" the U.N. He's just using "reform" as a buzzword to further denigrate the rest of the world. The U.N. doesn't need "reform" - Murika needs "reform" in the sense of kicking the neo-cons out of power.

I look forward with major drooling to the ass-whuppin' Bolton's gonna receive in the U.N. from the rest of the world's representatives.

Shrub just shot himself several times in both feet.

[President Kerry]

192. Well, Mr. Bush,

I'd like to go on record saying FUCK YOU!!! right back at you.. You miserable bastard are destroying this country and democracy generations before have worked hard to build. When you leave, you won't be missed.

[Nightwing]

186. Screw Bush and his evil minions

Damn them all to hell where they belong!! Hate is not a strong enough word to express the feelings I have when speaking of this vile, putrid, inept, corrupt little fuhrer. Who the hell does * think he is?? Some way, some how we must take this bastard and his crooked administration down and the sooner the better. Our nation has never been so at risk to fade into oblivion than it is now. Anyone that cannot see that fact is either blind, ignorant, just doesnt care or is a W enabler. And if you're the latter FUCK YOU!!

[EnfantTerrible]

187. What an asshole * is...

I'm in Paris on vacation... first time I've logged on and this is what greets me! Only Chim could ruin my life when I'm on vacation.:grr:

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

191. 7+ hours later

and I am still FLAMING over this.

:grr:

[gort]

193. and these are the assholes that Hillary Clinton want us to shut the

fuck up about and to fall in line with?

It's getting harder and harder to vote for yellow dogs.


Gort

[jurassicpork]

198. Didn't Nero..?

...do something similar to this?

No, wait. That was a horse, not a jackass.

Both times, however, it was a slap in the face of the Senate.

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com

[TechBear_Seattle]

200. When Clinton wanted James Hormel to be ambassador to Luxembourg...

... a few Republican Senators refused to let his nomination come to a floor vote because GOD FORBID a known homosexual should take such a majorly important diplomatic post. After almost three years, Clinton relented and appointed Hormel anyway when the Senate was out of session. The GOP screamed "TRAITOR!" and called for Clinton's head on a platter for "betraying democracy" and "using loop-holes in the Constitution to push his extremist agenda."

When Shrub wanted Bolton to be ambassador to the United Nations, several Senators on both sides of the aisle didn't let his nomination come to a floor vote, some because he was a proven liar and bully, others because they knew there was no way that such a proven liar and bully would be confirmed. After a few months, Bush is appointing Bolton anyway when the Senate is out of session... the very first recess since the nomination was made. The GOP nods its head sagely and pontificates on the great wisdom of the Founders in how they wrote the Constitution.

:shrug:

[0rganism]

203. The upside: at least Bolton won't have any diplomatic credibility

By dropping this thug on the UN, an institution Bolton openly deplored, bush has told the Rest of the World exactly how much he cares. Now there will be no question of bush's intentions, there will be no option to trust the USA to deal honestly, no one will listen to a word he says without looking for the hidden agenda.

Appointing Bolton to the UN is like withdrawing ambassadors from every country in the world; it's tantamount to an open declaration of hostilities. Behold Idiot America in its full glory.

[Seabiscuit]

204. I've never seen the word "freeper" used so much in a DU thread.

Not at all surprising though - lots of posts deleted. The "opposition" must be feeling really desperate today.

[DuaneBidoux]

208. You're with me or against me! You want something? Go Fuck Yourself.

[Sugarcoated]

218. The thing that comforts me in all of this

is, no matter what happens in the remainder of *'s presidency, corruption will always hang over it, and him, in the history books.

And you KNOW he will continue to over-reach - he doesn't know any different, he's an rich boy who feels entitled.

The Corrupt President - it'll be in the books, like Hoover and Grant.

[savemefromdumbya]

215. OK, not one Democrat is stopping Bush?

Why don't they do a sit-in on the capital steps re: Bolton? Do something that might catch media attention?

[mnhtnbb]

217. My letter to UN Secretary-General

E-mails can be sent to [e-mail]


Mr. Secretary-General:

I am a citizen of the U.S., but like to think of myself as a citizen of the world. I first visited the United Nations as a 5th-grade student in 1962 and brought my teenage children to see the United Nations several summers ago.
Thank you for all that you do to promote peace and understanding among ALL people of the world.

I am writing to let you know that the recess appointment of Mr. Bolton by Mr. Bush infuriates me.
If there is anything you can do to refuse to recognize his credentials, then do it. Mr. Bolton does not represent me, and in fact Mr. Bush does not represent me. In my opinion, Mr. Bush should be indicted for treason for the lies he has told the US Congress and citizens of this country in his determination to wage an unjust and illegal war against the Iraqi people.

Public opinion appears to be turning against Mr. Bush, thank goodness. Perhaps this recess appointment, bypassing the role of Congress, will accelerate that trend. We can only hope. I dream of the day Mr. Bush is impeached and fo


rced to leave office in disgrace. It is my hope that one day Mr. Bush and his cronies--Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rumsfeld, and Ms. Rice--will be brought to trial for war crimes against humanity.

Until that day, the citizens of the United States must appeal to the leaders of the rest of the world to take whatever actions are open to them to stop the Bush Administration from doing any more harm.
We are one world; help us, please.

[savemefromdumbya]

219. Good one, we really do need a media corps here

I think if every one wrote a letter per week to the local newspapers and hounded the radio stations and TV we would be in a better position. However, most are quite content to enjoy summer BBQs and vacations while this right wing junta is putting the final pieces in place. I wish we could turn the clock back to the 60s!

[Megahurtz]

222. That Fucking Slime!!!

That sleazy, slimy, conniving, dishonest, untrustworthy, lying, selfish,

SLIME!!!:argh:

THIS IS NOT OUR COUNTRY ANYMORE!!!:nuke:

:cry::cry::cry:

[buddha8]

224. streets

It is time for people to begin pouring into the streets and organizing huge marches,sit-ins,etc. The system is no longer even remotely function, the vote count is completely controled, Washington is owned by corporate lobbyists. There is only now power with people. The rest is utter nonsense. I sense that we are in for an endless one party system of rapid consolidation as long as the count is controled. Even Kerry knows in his shrunken testicles that he won the election. He knows how to interpret an Exit poll. The government has long since been overthrown. The rule of law is no more. No More. Got that? How much facism does one need to witness before one realizes this?

[soda]

250. what will it take

Will Americans wait till* votes himself in for a third term, (life president)before they say enough, reminds me of how to boil a frog. in what circumstance can * change the rule of only two terms, i remember reagan nearly went for it

[mwb970]

225. This makes me despise the Bushturd even more than I already did.

What a vile, horrible little monster he is.

[Logician]

228. Need to tie Republicans to Bush-- even more tightly-- for 2006 and 2008

The DNC and all of us in Blogworld need to work hard to make the mention of any Republican synonymous with Shrub. This is the only way we will win the next series of elections-- 2006 and 2008.

Bush is gone. He can no longer be held accountable. He does not care. He is carrying out his agenda. Period. We can stop some legislation-- the most radical.

He will not apologize for Rove. He does not care. He is not up for re-election.

Where we need to work is to construct a campaign to equate being a Rethug to Bush. Which is actually simple. When we are in line to lose in a vote, we need to have names on record of those who support that piece of s**t's point of view.

Then, in Senatorial races, when a Rethug runs, we pull up the list and smear him or her with their allegiance to Bush.

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[Justitia]

232. yeah, why did Bush take the sissy way out thru the back door?

And, oh by the way, Dems (and Repubs) did NOT filibuster - they requested pertinent documents about events Bolton was directly involved in regarding Nat'l Security.

The White House stonewalled them until the first day of the recess when Bush could ignore Congress and install him anyway.

Both parties wanted to know what Bolton had been up to while he was lying about testifying, falsifying intelligence info and requesting intelligence intercepts.

But, I'm guessing none of this fits your world view does it?

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[Sugarcoated]

235. Redlady

You dodged, badly.

[Justitia]

236. So now asking for documents is filibustering???? Wow.

Shrub could have moved it right along by handing over the documents they asked for. Then again, he hides everything everyday.

Why does Bush have so much to hide?

Why bother even going thru Advise & Consent?

BTW - again - these were BI PARTISAN requests, not just one party.

Did the repugs "filibuster" themselves?

Ridiculous.

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[Justitia]

241. Why are you ignoring the fact that both Repubs AND Dems

questioned his fitness?

And why are you ignoring the fact that they suspected he BROKE THE LAW re: intelligence intercepts and lying to Congress about his testimony to a grand jury?

And why are you ignoring the fact both parties suspected he manufactured and manipulated intelligence to start a war?

And why are you ignoring the fact that Bush refused to give documents that would have settled these questions one way or another?

And why are you ignoring the glaring fact that Bush will appoint someone who is flamboyantly doing irreparable harm to the United States simply because Bolton will do whatever terrible thing Bush / Cheney wants him to?

How can you ignore ALL OF THIS? Are you that blindly loyal to a single corrupt man?

So Bush just gets whatever he wants, no matter how bad it is for Americans and the rest of the world?

You must have loved Nixon, Watergate, the Iran-Contra affair and the Savings and Loan Scandals.

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[mvd]

246. I'm not surprised

Words can't describe my disgust with this administration. He's going to be horrible. The UN is a NEGOTIATING body - not a body full of bullies. Again, the Repukes put in charge someone who they think will weaken a body, agency, etc. They might get away with that with the EPA, but they will have a harder time with the UN.

[gkhouston]

244. "more" documents?

They've been asking for the same documents since April. This hasn't been a situation of the White House providing documents and then partisan Democrats thinking up some new need that simply must be satisfied, just to drag out the process. Both sides have expressed an interest in seeing this information and the harder the White House tries to hide it, the more I think there is in fact something nasty that should be dragged into the light of day.

I wouldn't recommend getting your "facts" from Scott McClellan, btw. I've seen too many of video clips of statements he made that later proved to be false -- like the assertion that it was ridiculous that Rove was involved in the outing of a CIA agent.

[mvd]

249. And I'm getting tired of seeing "up or down vote"

That's one of those Repuke talking points that's been repeated ad nauseum. You're right - we suspect that something even nastier is there. I'm sure there is.

[Broken_Hero]

252. Its a shame...

But he is arrogant, very arrogant, the man will get everything he wishes, while his base lauds him, what a joke.

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[noonriser]

255. You're obviously not from around here....

Shrub didn't win the election. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your short visit.