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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:53 AM
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Novak Defends Actions in CIA Leak
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Novak Defends Actions in CIA Leak

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Columnist Robert Novak broke his silence Monday about his disclosure of an undercover CIA operative's identity, defending himself against a former agency official's account that he twice warned Novak not to publish the name.

In his syndicated column, Novak did not dispute that former CIA spokesman Bill Harlow told him he should not print the covert officer's name, Valerie Plame, during conversations they had prior to Novak's July 14, 2003 column.

But Novak reasserted that no CIA official ever told him in advance "that Valerie Plame Wilson's disclosure would endanger her or anybody else."

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Novak, whose role in the investigation is unknown, has been silent on the series of events he set in motion. But he wrote about it Monday, saying he was ignoring his lawyers' advice because Harlow's account is "so patently incorrect and so abuses my integrity as a journalist."

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:56 AM
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1. NOFACTS
has lived the fat cat life for way too long!!

ifin he don't know the rules about CIA agents by now..he ain't gonna learn em..

Another DC insider who is most likley a paid repuke stoogola..or worse..
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:57 AM
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2. As was said already, Novak's defense depends on parsing words
But then so doesn't everyone of the other people involved in the leak and its communication to the public.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:04 PM
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27. so--is Novak taking the fall??
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:59 AM
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3. if i said don't cross the street against the light...
would you understand that i meant you might get hit by a car? :eyes:
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:59 AM
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4. So this is why Rove told Novak Wilson was "fair game". He must've asked
Rove about the CIA warning and then got the go ahead from Rove to print it.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:16 PM
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30. in what way is Novak culpable?
Enlighten me.

Novak is private citizen, writing for some two bit scandal sheet.
Whatever secret there was, I don't see it
as Novak's secret to keep.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:56 PM
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32. come on
he assisted bush inc in trying to descredit someone who was telling the truth about bush and that piece of shit Iraq war - Novak is NOT A JOURNALIST - he is a BUSH WHORE
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:03 AM
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35. explain Novak's culpability
what does Novak owe to anybody?

OK, lots of people don't like this guy,

a supermarket tabloid 'journalist'
publishes what others have supposedly told him...

this is news ?

do you believe everything you read?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:32 AM
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37. he is part of a conspiracy to out a covert CIA agent
you see no culpability in this? Remember, other journalists saw through the plot and refused play along
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:00 AM
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5. guess he thought the CIA spokespeople
were going to say "She's an undercover operative so don't reveal her name." What a treasonous fool.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:01 AM
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6. So, let me get this straight...
The CIA told Novak not to use Plame's name, but he did so anyway because no one at the CIA would tell him why he couldn't use her name?

What a gigantic idiot Novak is.

I will be hugely surprised if Novak isn't prosecuted at this point.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:09 AM
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8. but the point is that the CIA is responsible itself for the initial leak
so, will Bill Harlow take the fall for Rove/Cheney/Libby's political dirty tricks.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:29 AM
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12. That's speculation, I believe.
The CIA would have been authorized to give this information to those in the administration cleared to get it. That would not be a "leak". I think the issue is what those officials then did with it.

It would appear that Novak called Harlow. Harlow tried to talk Novak out of using her name while staying within the law.

"There never was any question of me talking about Mrs. Wilson 'authorizing.' I was told she 'suggested' the mission, and that is what I asked Harlow," {Novak} wrote."

"Harlow said he could not tell Novak that Plame was a covert officer because that information itself was classified. But in at least two telephone calls, Harlow told Novak that Plame had not authorized her husband's mission and that her name should not be used even if Novak went ahead with a story, according to the Post."


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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:04 AM
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7. Why are these assholes
getting more arrogant every day?

It seems that they think they can still get away with this crap and that no one can stop them.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:14 AM
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9. he would have to have a shred of integrity to have it abused...
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:20 AM
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10. Novak's nigthmares must be especially haunting now.
Woe is me and all that for Novak, a smarmy guy who realizes nobody is out there defending his lack of marals and Grand Canyon sized "journalistic" ethical gaps. :eyes:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:26 PM
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25. GAWD, I hope so
That would be the very, very LEAST he deserves: haunting nightmares. If so, may they last for eternity, all the while he burns in hell.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:20 AM
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11. Dupe
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 11:21 AM by Pithy Cherub
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:42 AM
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13. ...and besides, dammit, I'M A REPUBLICAN
...so the rules of civilized behavior don't apply.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:42 AM
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14. Thats alright mr.novackula,,, we know you meant well,,, you dirty little
sausage sucking pig.

Your legacy will follow you to your grave and beyond.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:51 AM
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15. How does one defend the commission of treason?
Arrogant sonofabitch. This man needs to stand on the business end of a firing squad.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:55 AM
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16. "integrity as a journalist" A "journalist" that publicly blows the cover
of the CIA front company that was Plame's employer of record, Brewster Jennings, saying he's convinced that the company is completely fictious and Plame violated CIA practice by listing it as her employer. At the time Brewster Jennings was listed in Dun & Bradstreet. But what are mere facts when you're engaged in a smear campaign?

He's musta attended the Judith Miller School of Journalism. Judy claimed that fact checking was not her job as an "invesigative journalist." LOL
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:55 AM
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17. Jon Stewart is right
Novak is the Douchebag of Liberty.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:05 PM
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29. te he---i did not know Stewart said that.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:16 PM
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18. wonder which part of
'do not print the covert officer's name' nofacts didn't understand?
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LeftyElvis Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:22 PM
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19. And they like to call us traitors.........
Rove and Novak should be headed to jail.........
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:32 AM
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34. They should be headed to the guillotine nt
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:30 PM
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20. "...abuses my integrity as a journalist"
Wiping the tears from my eyes...hoo boy...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:47 PM
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21. What makes him such a "douchebag for liberty," as Jon Stewart puts it
is that his actions were NOT motivated by any journalistic purposes, but to please his GOP masters. His "assignment" was to hurt Wilson by outing Plame, and HE KNEW IT!!!

:grr:
rocknation
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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:54 PM
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22. I used to respect him; no more. All I can ever think about him
is what a sad individual he is, how far he's sunk since his days with Tom Braden on Crossfire. Now that I think of it, he never seemed to have a lot of integrity, even then. How can anyone ever forgive him for what he did unless he asks for forgiveness?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:21 PM
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23. Novak's Excuse in Plain English...

"I was too stupid to understand that 'do not use the name of an operative' meant 'conceal the identify of the operative'. I was also too stupid to understand that when they told me doing so could cause 'difficutlties' they meant it could get people killed."


Stupidity is actually the perfect excuse. He has four decades of published material that proves his point.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:29 PM
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26. I don't buy that
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 03:30 PM by Eloriel
He's not stupid, nor is he unsophisticated. Right now, he's "spinning," altho I'd call it more lying. (To me "spinning" is "the glass if half full," not outright lying, which is what the word has come to mean.)

He knew what it meant for a CIA guy to warn him off printing her name. If he didn't, he should have OR had enough contacts due to his lengthy Washington career to find OUT. IOW: ignorance is no excuse, and IMO it's not even honest, but a lie.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:32 PM
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24. In the Nineteenth Century, a man in Novak's position would
have taken the honorable way out. A bottle of port, a Cuban cigar, and a brass pistol on a silver tray ... .
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:04 PM
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28. He was told not to blow her cover
He didn't need to be told why not. It was obvious. Besides, it was the law, and ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:12 PM
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31. Looks like Rove's going to be exonerated and Traitorgate dies
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:16 AM
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33. I ain't buying it
It looks like a "duck and cover" to me. I don't think the desk is big enough to protect any of them. I think Novak is such a habitual liar, this won't get him or anyone else off the hook. Fitzgerald is a sharp cookie and this case is the chance of a lifetime to go down in history, by showing your true ability.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:17 AM
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36. ¡Buena suerte douchebag!
Pox on your house Novakula! :puke:
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