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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:04 PM
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Study: Electronic Record Costs May Soar (Bush plan cost: $200 billion)
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's proposal to create a national network of electronic health records could cost more than $200 billion initially to build and operate, researchers said Monday.

The health care industry itself, based on current estimates, will cover less than 20 percent of that amount.
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"We know it's expensive," said Dr. David Brailer, appointed by Bush to coordinate the government's efforts for improved health information technology.

"We know it's in the billions of dollars, perhaps in the tens of billions of dollars, and possibly even the hundreds of billions," Brailer said. "But the principle question is not how much it is. It's how do we create incentives to involve the private sector and prevent the federal government from financing it all. We want it to be market-driven."

The United Kingdom has allocated about $14 billion to build a health information network. Canada has invested about $1.2 billion -- an amount the researchers said likely would have to be increased.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-health-network,0,4843262.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:08 PM
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1. Jeez, that's about three years of Iraq occupation!
And four years of Syria occupation to come!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:11 PM
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3. That's his whole health care plan
This is supposed to *lower* costs?

I don't trust the bushies with it anyway- Remember the fiasco over the FBI's data systems?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:14 PM
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6. I smell Halliburton contract!
hundreds of billions for a system that doesn't work? Yeeehaw!
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:17 PM
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7. i think electronic records is dyn-corps specialty.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:30 PM
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10. It will lower costs no doubt but the consumer won't ever see a penny
Plus they will pay more taxes in order to finance it.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:09 PM
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2. I know, I know, give the industry tax credits and tax breaks in
multiples of several times the cost of the system: that should get the job done.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:12 PM
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4. Why does Bush want to build this system?
Do we even need this, or is it just another way Bushco wants to increase the ability of the Government to spy on us and keep track of us.

I don't like the idea at all. What doctor I see, what sickness I've had, what drugs I was prescribed, should all be PRIVATE information!
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:13 AM
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15. Agreed!
This will set us up for an incredible invasion of our privacy. Eventually corporations will access it to screen out potential employees with health problems, and there will be many other potential sinister uses. Isn't this the nonsense Hillary has been pushing with her buddy Newt?
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podnoi Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:13 PM
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5. $48 Billion/year could take care of a lot of medical procedures
Isn't it always interesting how much Money our Resident is willing to spend on projects like this...

I suppose healing the sick isn't quite as profitable for his friends and supporters. With a $160 Billion startup price there will be a lot of money to made off of this.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:19 PM
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8. In the billions, the tens of billions, or even hundreds of billions.
Can I hear a trillion? Jeebers, do these people ever listen to themselves?

:banghead:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:39 AM
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16. you'd think the guy appointed to do this would work it out before talking
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:20 PM
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9. Why the hell doesn't he give this money to stem cell research?
Saving lives is a little bit more important than giving your family and friends some cushy job entering everyone's PRIVATE information into a data base.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:43 PM
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11. WHy should the gov't pay a penny? If the health industry wants it, THEY
can pay for it.

repukes want entities to live on their own merit, right? So ditch the corporate welfare already, please.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:06 PM
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12. this is (and has been) Bush's answer to the the health care crisis.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:11 PM
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13. This is driven by SS Disability.
When a person applies for SS Disability the SSA must obtain his medical records. This costs about $35-50 for each record. You can have dozens of places to get the records from thus the cost PER CASE can be as high as $1000. If this centralized system existed all SSA would have to do is download the records. Save the Government a lot of money. Furthermore if someone's condition improved while on SS disability so that he or she was no longer eligible for SS disability the process to remove that person from the rolls can be started sooner.

This was the start of this concept, than expanded to covered people on Medicare and than Medicaid and than for everyone else.

The real issue is NOT whether such a system would help (It would) but can it be done?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:47 PM
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14. And how much would it cost for Universal health care?
In my opinion, Universal health care would be a better use of the money.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 03:51 AM
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17. umm... 'scuse please? how many people live in this country? 300 milllion?
and why does it take 200 billion dollars to keep track of 300 million people's health records? and why is that figure 666? any clues, anyone?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:58 AM
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18. kick
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