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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:39 AM
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Fiji villagers to say sorry for eating British missionary
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/15/wfiji15.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/10/15/ixportal.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=199137

Villagers in Fiji whose ancestors killed and ate a British missionary 136 years ago are to offer a traditional apology to his descendants.

The Rev Thomas Baker, of the Wesleyan Methodist Church, was killed in the remote mountain community of Navatusila in 1867, possibly after he took a comb out of a chief's hair. Touching the head of a chief was taboo in Fiji, once known as the Cannibal Isles.

His death helped to foster an image of missionaries as blundering proselytisers who inevitably ended up in a simmering pot surrounded by dancing natives.

The people of Navatusila want to atone for the sins of their ancestors because they believe they have been cursed by Mr Baker's death, with their village suffering a string of misfortunes.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:11 AM
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1. you gotta love British missionaries, with
Hollandaise sauce. ok, bad joke. but after 136 years, sometimes an apology seems a bit late... unless you're the pope.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:41 AM
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3. Ever read Far Side?
Two Amimals talking and you see a hat on ground and the animals saying. 'Love those things, soft on the outside ane chewy on the inside'Always makes me laught just to think of it. I loved Far Side.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:32 AM
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10. I always liked the Polar bears at the igloo...
"Yum! Crunchy on the outside and chewy inside!"

Where's Larson when we need him?

Atlant
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:30 PM
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39. Poem: This Is Just To Say
I have eaten
the minister
who was in
the icebox

and which
you were probably
saving
for breakfast

Forgive me
he was delicious
so sweet
and so cold


(with apologies to William Carlos Williams)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:26 AM
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2. Can any one say....
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 04:27 AM by liberalnurse
Mad Cow Disease.....also known as Creutzfeld Jakob Disease in humans....

inherited disease resulting from canabilism.
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:51 AM
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5. You mean this?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:38 AM
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20. I learned that from the X Files
Season 2 (1995), "Our Town". :evilgrin:
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:47 AM
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4. Cool pic that goes with Yahoo story.







A remote Fiji mountain village which killed and ate an English missionary 136 years ago will next month offer a traditional apology.(AFP/File/Torsten Blackwood)



PICTURE WITH CAPTION
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/031014/241/5ka2c.html&e=7


STORY

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031014/od_afp/fiji_cannibals_offbeat_031014145005
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:56 AM
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6. Dear Methodist Church of England...
We're sorry we ate your missionary 136 years ago. According to our tribal lore, he looked tender and delicious, but turned out to be rather stringy. Please, if you lift the curse your volcano god has leveled upon us since that time, we will give his descendants the royal comb he liked so much.

And if you would be so kind, next time you send missionaries, can you pack them with some kind of cheese sauce?

Apologetically yours,
the people of Navatusila
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:58 AM
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7. LOL!
:D
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:00 AM
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8. Tasteless!
:evilgrin:
dbt
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:56 AM
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23. That's what THEY said.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:59 AM
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25. That's Methodists for ya
j/k
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:24 AM
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9. So when are the missionaries going to apologise...
for the 136 odd years of trying to wipe out Fijian culture?
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:37 AM
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11. ALL Polynesian culture! Hawaiians went barefoot before the
missionaries planted things that grew thorns! They've taken Hawaiian lands from its people while they starve and live in poverty. Yet, the land just sits idle...not to mention that it isn't the best land! What people have done in the name of God is hellacious in their holier than thou, puritanical attitudes! :puke:

Look at all the indigenous peoples of the world and weep! It mirrors what we've done to this planet...
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:11 AM
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26. Amen!
Those natives shouldn't have to appologise to anyone!
If some missionary came to my house & put his hand on my gf's butt I'd kick his ass.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:59 AM
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12. Reminds me of that Monty Python skit ...
Man: Um, er...excuse me, um, are you... are you suggesting we should eat my mother? (pause)
Undertaker: Yeah. Not raw, not raw. We cook her. She'd be delicious with a few french fries, a bit of stuffing. Delicious! (smacks his lips)
Man: What! (he stammers) (pause)
Man: Actually, I do feel a bit peckish - No! NO, I can't!
Undertaker: Look, we'll eat your mum. Then, if you feel a bit guilty about it afterwards, we can dig a grave and you can throw up into it.
Man: All right.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:21 AM
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27. LOL!
I can't eat him! He's not Kosher!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:48 PM
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41. "There is no cannibalism in the British Navy!"
Absolutely none! And when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount . . .
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:06 AM
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13. I always thought Rev. Baker was an American
well you learn something new everyday.

WPE (in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms, and garlic... yum yum).
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:12 AM
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14. Isn't there something in the Bible that says....

"feed my people"?

Well Rev Thomas Baker did just that!
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:24 AM
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15. Love those English muffins.
Pass the marmalade. Yum. Yum. Eat'em up.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 09:49 AM
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16. I Wonder If They Would Like A "Certain" Cubs Fan?
:grr:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:04 AM
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17. A curse or the conceptual framework to allow for a curse caused this
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 10:17 AM by bobthedrummer
public apology for ancestors. That is interesting. 136 years interesting historically.

A curse?:wtf:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:34 AM
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19. It makes me wonder how Christian they really are
"Fiji is now staunchly Christian and many Fijians regard their cannibal heritage as primitive and embarrassing."

but

"The people of Navatusila want to atone for the sins of their ancestors because they believe they have been cursed by Mr Baker's death, with their village suffering a string of misfortunes."


Does anybody but me see a bit of cognitive dissonance there?
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:09 AM
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18. An A-1 steak sauce moment
:)
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:58 AM
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24. A-1: Great for missionaries, and keeps curses away!
I can see the ads now...
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:39 AM
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21. Does it still go on, do you think?
Anyone got any spare airmiles to send to Tony Blair, for his Xmas break abroad?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:16 PM
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31. That would be cruel.
A previous poster mentioned the danger of Mad Cow Disease. All British beef is a bit suspect...

Hmmm. Some have been wondering about Tony's recent nosedive in mental status. Could he have ingested a contaminated bit of prime rib?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 10:42 AM
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22. I never apologize when I eat someone.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 11:26 AM
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28. Yeah. If you do it right
you don't have to apologize.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:41 PM
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29. WHEW!!!
Before I clicked on the link to this thread, I thought "PLEASE let this have happened, like, a hundred years ago..."


rocknation
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:58 PM
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30. So when are the British going to apologize...
for putting clothes on all the natives?
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monkeyboy Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 02:34 PM
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32. Just like Limbaugh, NOW they're apologizing
Now that the curse has affected them, oh sure, NOW they're sorry...
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:02 PM
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33. Please people. There is plenty of room for missionaries in this world.
Right next to the mashed potatoes.

Ba boom!
Thank you ladies and germs.
I'll be here all week.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:18 PM
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35. LOL!
Nice one.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:09 PM
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34. Can we send some Southern Baptists and fundies over there?
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 03:11 PM by Billy_Pilgrim
Covered in a nice bacon drippings gravy?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:25 PM
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38. exactly what i was thinkin...
pat robertson could feed a family
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:27 PM
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40. Excellent idea.
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et in Arcadia ego... Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:27 PM
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36. Top 10 bubblegum hit by the band 'Fiji Express':
Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 03:32 PM by October Surprise
"Yummy, Yummy, Yummy (I got British missionary in my tummy)". They later recorded the follow-up hit: "Chewy, Chewy"!
:wow:
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duvinnie Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 04:47 PM
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37. traditional apology?
i wonder - what's their definition of "apology"?
think i'd rather not find out!
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