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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:11 AM
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NYT: Vindication for Ivory-Billed Woodpecker and Its Fans
Vindication for Ivory-Billed Woodpecker and Its Fans
By JAMES GORMAN and ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: August 2, 2005


Associated Press
An artist rendering of the ivory-billed woodpecker, as provided by the journal Science.


The phoenix had nothing on the ivory-billed woodpecker.

It is hard to keep track of how many times this near-mythic bird, the largest American woodpecker and a poignant symbol of extinction and disappearing forests, has been lost and then found. Now it is found again.

Even the most skeptical ornithologists now agree. They say newly presented recordings show that at least two of the birds are living in Arkansas.

Richard O. Prum, an ornithologist at Yale University and one of several scientists who had challenged the most recently claimed rediscovery of the ivory bill, said Monday after listening to the tape recordings that he was now "strongly convinced that there is at least a pair of ivory bills out there."

Mark B. Robbins, an ornithologist at the University of Kansas, who had also been a skeptic, listened to the same recordings with a graduate student and said, "We were absolutely stunned."...


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/02/science/02bird.html?hp&ex=1123041600&en=4ddf1b56da5e91cf&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:22 AM
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1. Some good news.
Much needed.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:35 AM
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2. Long time bird watcher here
and this is the best news of my life. I suspect the Ivory-Billed will be found in other locations too :-). (If we haven't totally destroyed their preferred habitat).
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:37 AM
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3. we got habitat
I'm thinking the SRC. Ought to be a lot of standing dead wood there. Kind of doubt there's any now, that place has been covered up with biologists for years but it is a good chunk of prime land. Congaree NP, Frances Marion NF and perhaps the Pee Dee basin all are possibilities.

Once the smart folks get an idea of how many there actually are and their prospects thought must be given to reintroduction into suitable habitat in their former range, as a hedge against local catastrophe and simply because it is right.

Of course without the ESA all will be for naught. If Pombo has his way this bird and so much else is doomed. That will be the last straw for me.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:42 AM
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4. Hi blindpig
:hi:

We're coming "home" to S.C. next year (retiring) and I will spend my days in the Francis Marion in a few of my favorite swamps and keep looking :-).

See you there?
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
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6. You bet!
While we're listing IBWPs and Bachman's warblers I'll show you a few snakehunting tricks:evilgrin:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:34 PM
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8. I had a bachman's
near the confluence of the great and little PeeDee rivers.

The bird was yellow with olive wings and a black bib, and it flew down and sat in a tree right in front of me, and I stood there just GAPING at it, then an adult male hooded warbler flew down and started feeding it.

D'oh!
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:04 PM
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12. Deal!
:-). Maybe we can have the first ever DU swamp canoeing/bird watching/snake hunting meet up :-).
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:35 PM
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14. I'd be all over it....
just tell me when and where.

Ain't no swamps in Cali...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 09:45 AM
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5. Ornithologists formerly considered tin-foil hatters are vindicated.
This is awesome, rare good news from the natural world in these dark times.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:57 PM
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16. tin foil hatters like van remsen
so glad he's been vindicated

he has been in surgery but last i hear recovering nicely
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM
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7. quick! Cut down that forest!
:sarcasm:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:37 PM
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9. Woodpeckers Hate America!
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:53 PM
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10. and...
They hate our freedom.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:02 PM
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11. The enemy...

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:46 AM
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26. especially for our freedoms!
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 05:53 PM
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13. Oh, they are so beautiful!
I just love birds. What awesome and amazing creatures.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:53 PM
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15. I loved Jon Stewart's "Avian Resurrection" graphic for this story ...
Hilariously appropriate!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:00 PM
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17. you have a photo/link?
n/t
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:06 PM
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18. video clips here?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:11 PM
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19. my computer doesn't support this
and it's a work computer so I am afraid to tinker, but thanks!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:14 PM
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20. picture something like this ...
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 08:15 PM by Lisa
But with a "V" and another "A" instead.



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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:15 PM
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21. NICE!
thanks!

:evilgrin:
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:33 PM
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22. Meanwhile, the Imperial Woodpecker is now (likely) extinct
With all the attention that the rediscovery of the Ivory Billed Woodpecker has received, there's nary a mention of the fact that the largest of the North American woodpeckers, the aptly named Imperial Woodpecker, is now presumed extinct. There haven't been any confirmed sightings of the bird in decades, and the destruction of its natural habitat in Mexico and Cuba makes it increasingly unlikely that the species could recover even if a handful of birds still survive.

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:49 PM
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23. Hope the Imperial Woodpecker
figues out how to survive.
Will so-called homo sapiens sapiens survive its attack on itself?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:44 PM
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24. Hey experts,
What kind of Woodpecker is this. He was a big boy and quickly destroyed that log.
I took this picture outside St Paul, Minnesota in a Mississippi River bottom.
I had never seen one this big before, and while I can identify some of our local birds, I am far from an expert.




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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:22 AM
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25. I think it's a pileated woodpecker
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 12:27 AM by Lisa
I'm not an expert, but I've seen them on the West Coast and a few in Southern Ontario (where they're increasingly rare). I used to work at a wildlife shelter, and one day someone absent-mindedly put a baby pileated into a cage with wooden (!) bars which he quickly destroyed. We found him wandering around the room the next morning. (Luckily someone else had remembered to tie down the redtailed hawk's leash.)



http://www.birds.cornell.edu/programs/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Pileated_Woodpecker.html
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:24 AM
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27. Thanks.
Sure looks like my bird.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 05:20 AM
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28. Thats a pileated woodpecker
I have a few in my woods. They are very busy boring large-- 5" by 10" holes in insect infested trees.

It was the inspiration for "WOODY WOODPECKER" with the red comb on its head.
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