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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:39 AM
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President Rallying Support in Polls
President Rallying Support in Polls
Rebound Sets Campaign Team into Action

By Mike Allen and Claudia Deane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, October 15, 2003; Page A06


Heartened by opinion polls indicating President Bush's six-month slide may have ended, his aides are working to reassure supporters that his standing is solid despite a fall full of setbacks.

Bush aides expressed relief at several polls this week, including a Washington Post-ABC News poll released yesterday, that found the president's approval rating stabilizing after a steady drop since Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was ousted in mid-April. Bush's approval rating in the Post-ABC poll was 53 percent. That is statistically unchanged from the end of last month, and 5 percentage points down from mid-September.

Although aides contend that Bush disdains polls, he paused to relish his latest showing during an interview yesterday about his upcoming trip to Asia.

"There was a poll that showed me going up yesterday, not to be on the defensive," he told Australia's Channel 9 television, according to an Associated Press report. "Actually, I'm in pretty good shape, politically. I really am. I didn't mean to sound defensive. But I am. Politicians, by the way, who pay attention to the polls are doomed, trying to chase opinion when what you need to do is lead, set the tone."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25667-2003Oct14.html

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:58 AM
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1. I trust these polls!
(The ones that came out right after The Chimp demanded more "upbeat" coverage of everything.)

I trust them to the extent that I trust the media companies who run the Whore Nets to present factual, unslanted information in their alleged newscasts.

Please note that your "major" polls are mostly presented in partnership with the same TV networks who have been whoring for bu$h (at least openly) since 2000.

WHAT DOES ZOGBY SAY?

I want Mojo Filter!
:evilgrin:
dbt
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:10 AM
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2. Selling the presidency
it will work with the best advertising techniques available to those who want to sell an inferior product--remember though, they are not regulated for truth or honesty. Everything is on "go"-- People will believe it, be titillated by it, be emotionally connected to the brand name and any other sideways means, including outright lying, these slimeballs can think of to sell this rotten, cowardly, evil murderer, the presidential wannabe, who calls himself president --this man is the most insane leader in the world today--he is armed and dangerous and has no clue whatsoever as to his symptoms--he has got to, actually , believe his own lies-the method demands it-he is pathological, I am convinced. He is insane. :crazy:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:10 AM
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3. Sorry, McChimpy. It's a temporary blip.
Poll: Democrats poll well against Bush

Oct. 14, 2003  |  WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrats match up well against President Bush in a new poll that highlights his vulnerability on Iraq and the economy.

The ABC News-Washington Post poll found that 49 percent of registered voters would support an unnamed Democrat and 44 percent would support Bush in a head-to-head matchup.

Among all adults, Bush, at 46 percent, and the Democrat, at 47 percent, were virtually tied. Bush led the Democratic candidate by 13 points among all adults in April; in August, he led by 8 points.

Bush trailed among independents by 6 points and among moderates by 14 points. He trailed among elderly people by 8 points.

http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2003/10/14/democrat_poll/index.html
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:06 PM
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11. If the WH sees this as good news
they must be pretty desperate. Of course, if Bush avoids going below 50 percent, that can claim that as a victory, which I guess is how they see it.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:13 AM
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4. set the tone on treble, george, and we still won't hear you.
being in charge of the stereo doesn't make you the hero of the party.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:14 AM
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5. I find the coverage of this "rebound"...
...as compared to the coverage of the slow drip, drip in ALL of the polls over the past several months...well, dubious. So after months of poorer and poorer showings, he is heartened by one poll that has him bumping up within the MOE. Haha, are these people BORN morons?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 06:18 AM
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6. So he's doomed then.
Good!
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 07:18 AM
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7. These 'aids' will work harded at this than their jobs.
Bush is the worse on polls than any. Each Pres. gets more so. Lets pass a law that prez can only stay one term? Then they would just get one shot at being statemen.
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 08:07 AM
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8. "Politicians who pay attention to polls are doomed."
Bye bye GW.

He wouldn't invade Iraq - after massing the troops there - until his phony propaganda machine racheted up public support of the invasion to 60% or higher. I am convinced that was the magic number.

And it didn't get that high until the lies came in thick and heavy at the UN and in the State of the Union speech.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Bush.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:01 PM
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9. This is hilarious
One poll does not make a rebound, especially when overy other poll shows him dropping or leveling off at barely above 50 percent. And that ABC poll shows him losing among registered voters to an unnamed Dem 44-49 percent. I think Bush benefited from last week's media coverage of the recall, but all that did was temporarily stop his slide. I hate to say it, but I suspect that Gallup poll was done specifically to help Bush.
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pajjr Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:06 PM
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10. what do you think?
Notice how much laura is out and about latley ... a sure sign he is in trouble
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:06 PM
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13. Good point about Laura
I hadn't thought about that.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:23 PM
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15. agree about the one poll not meaning anything but
I don't think it was the recall that gave Bush the push. I think it was the media showing sound bites of democratic candidates attacking each other in the last debate over and over and over again. Did anyone else notice this. This is what the media and the Republicans want. Democrats fighting each other. I wish these candidates would stop. They are only hurting themselves and the party. You know who you are.
When we are united against Bush his numbers fall.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:29 PM
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17. I don't like that, either
I'd rather see our candidates criticizing Bush and proposing their own agendas.
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indigo11153 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:58 PM
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18. RIGHT
24/7!
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:46 PM
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19. Maybe, but I think the recall was taking the heat off traitorgate,
the World Series is cutting into hard news coverage further, and a small part has to do with the Democrats fighting. But I think not that many people are watching the Democrats yet.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:06 PM
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12. Jebus this guy is stupid.
"I don't mean to be defensive. Honest, I'm not being defensive. No, really, truly, I'm not being defensive. Honest, things couldn't be better"

"I was looking at a poll but only politicians who are doomed look at polls."

Moron.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:08 PM
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14. LOL!
"I'm in good shape politically. Really I am. I swear, honest to goodness. I'm not making this up."
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:28 PM
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16. This Based on Two DUBIOUS Gallup Polls!
This is a major PR and propoganda offensive being put forth by the WH. The post should be ashamed. Every other major poll indicates a downward trend, at best a stabilization. Gallup is no longer credible at all.

More discussion here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=534560&mesg_id=534560
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