Bush stands by beleaguered friend Palmeiro in steroids scandal

[Catchawave]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050802/en_afp/baseballusadoping_050802171758

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush has defended his longtime friend Rafael Palmeiro -- the professional ballplayer suspended this week for using performance-enhancing drugs -- saying he believed Palmeiro's assertions that he never intentionally used steroids.

"Rafael Palmeiro is a friend. He testified in public and I believe him," Bush said in a newspaper interview published Tuesday in several Texas newspapers.

"He's the kind of person that's going to stand up in front of the klieg lights and say he didn't use steroids, and I believe him. Still do," the US president said.

Bush's friendship with Palmeiro dates back to the early 1990's when he was a managing partner for the Texas Rangers and Palmeiro a player with the team.

Palmeiro, is one of several professional athletes who testified under oath before a US congressional committee that he had never taken steroids....cont'd at link.

[rodeodance]

1. Jr stands by this trusted friend Rove also--AND Intellegent Design-Do

you see a pattern?

[shoelace414]

7. and after Bush in his State of the Union decried steroids!

[E-Z-B]

31. Don't forget standing by Rumsfeld during Abu Ghraib

here's an example:

Stay with CNN-USA for frequent updates on the Bush administration's show of support for Donald Rumsfeld, and for a look ahead at Tuesday's testimony on the Hill by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who wrote a U.S. Army report on abuse of prisoners in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/07/politics.abuse.main/index.html

[E-Z-B]

34. And here's bush standing by Tom DeLay

The White House stands "strongly" behind Tom DeLay amid ethical questions over the House majority leader's fund- raising and overseas trips, deputy chief of staff Karl Rove said Monday.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/04/18/rove.delay/index.html

[warrens]

2. Lessee. Liar? Check. Hypocrite? Check. Self-righteous? Check.

Yup, Old Raffy has it all to be a Bush-style Republican.

[Bluebear]

3. "Rafael Palmeiro is a friend." That is all you need to know.

This gang will stick by any friend slash contributor. That the steroid test was positive is irrelevant, only that the guy testified in public and Bush "believes" him. Then they will chide liberals for being the ideology of no responsibility for their actions, blah blah.

[greyl]

4. 2 guys on ESPN just called bullshit on GW

They mentioned the hyposcrisy of how * profitted from steroids while in charge of the Texas Rangers.

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. Really they said that?

:applause: :bounce: :woohoo:

[greyl]

20. More accurately, Jose Conseco's book was cited

in which he made those claims, then the guys on Espn agreed with it.

edit: they also played a (recent?) video of * giving an anti-steroid speech "cowboy style" and used the term "whopper" whn describing *'s contradiction.

The one guy said * should just shut up. :) /edit

[krkaufman]

51. Wow, that's great to hear. Gotta like * catching grief ...

... on the sports channels.

[Twillig]

53. Ah, Woody Paige and Skip Bayless on "Cold Pizza"

Woody hates Bush. :-)

(but it was Skip who said Bush should shut up.)

[marbuc]

61. Shocking

I would have thought Woody is a Bush supporter.

[greyl]

64. Thanks for the names. :)

I'm not an ESPN watcher generally and just caught a bit while at work.

Also, I think the video they played was of the gw address in 2004.
New thread in GD here

[0007]

55. Do they work for ESPN? Cuz if they do, they got it right.

I hope they kick the bum out of baseball and take bush to the Hague for war crimes.

[punpirate]

5. This is earth-shattering news?

Give me a friggin' break. Who cares what Bush thinks of Palmeiro? The fate of the world doesn't rest on Palmeiro's steroid use. Not by a long shot.

Geez.

[jobycom]

8. Does all news have to be earth shattering?

It's gonna be fun when they trace the source of the steroids back to Palmeiro, and Bush looks like an idiot. Again.

[punpirate]

9. Great... a baseball fan lectures me on the news....

... have a nice life avoiding reality.

[Catchawave]

17. Why react when you can overreact ?

I'm sorry you don't find this an important issue, some others may and I don't think that's "avoiding reality".

This president is an idiot, and he proves it daily :banghead:

[punpirate]

24. Is this sports related?

I'd say, yes. That means it belongs in the sports forum, not LBN. Otherwise, you just glorify the opinions of Bush, Jr., by trying to make this news.

You seem to be impressed by Bush's opinions in this regard by elevating this story far beyond its importance.

Put it in sports where it belongs and where the rest of us can ignore it. Some of us don't care a fiddler's fart about the comments of either Bush or his baseball buddies. From any angle, it's trivial. It's a media diversion from the real news. The more importance you place on this story, the more I'm inclined to believe you don't understand what news is. No sports news is news, unless you've misplaced your priorities.

Cheers.

[oioioi]

36. It is news, wake up.

This could go easily evolve into a story about what Shrubbie knew was going on in his baseball days and put him in a rather difficult position with his posing about being tough on steriods.

[marbuc]

48. This is more than a sports story

but another example of this pattern of behavior -- blind loyalty in the face of reality.

[punpirate]

59. Does the guy vote on...

... anything that has to do with your life, or the life of anyone?

Nope. He's a jock. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a sports story.

When he goes to Congress, let me know. :)

Cheers.

[0007]

56. Palmeiro lied before Congress, that's perjury and it is news, sorry.

Just by pass this thread if you don't like it!

[Redstone]

57. For Christ's sake, they're talking about this issue as another

example of bushyboy's hypocrisy.

That takes it out of the sports arena in into national politics.

Why is that so hard for you to figure out?

Redstone

[Dulcinea]

66. It's news.

Sports IS news.

And a lot more people watch ESPN than C-Span.

You may not think it's important, but I daresay there are a lot of people who disagree.

[jobycom]

19. Man, who peed in your cheerios this morning?

I'm a moderate baseball fan, at best, and haven't followed it much at all in the last few years, but that is completely irrelevant, and has nothing to do with either my question, nor my statement.

As for the personal attacks, well, says more about you than me.

[punpirate]

29. Put it in sports, not LBN...

... Bush's pronouncements about steroids and his friends isn't news.

To make it LBN elevates both to a level neither deserves.

Cheers.

[jobycom]

32. The post was about Bush, not about sports

Sorry, o lord, that you are offended.

cheers

[hoboken123]

25. In your reality...

...baseball fans are avoiding reality?

That doesn't sound anything like my reality.

[IA_Seth]

30. or you could just ignore the topic.....n/t

[punpirate]

37. Yes, I could ignore it...

... if it were in sports, where it belongs, and I don't have to be reminded of the crazy fuckers who think anything Bush has to say about baseball is really fucking important late-breaking news....

Or something like that.... :)

[Catchawave]

38. You can hide the thread too....

...just trying to help :hi:

[punpirate]

39. Yeah, I know...

... but I tend to click on LBN threads regarding Bush first, just to find out what he's saying. When I find out that I've wasted my time on meaningless drivel about sports (which some people here think is really important, even if it's Bush talking about it), I'm annoyed.

Hitler probably liked football, too, but his interest in that sport doesn't quite compare with news of the invasion of Poland, does it?

*sigh*

I worry, too, about people whose interest in sports too easily diverts them from the main points of life today.

Bush talking about sports is a diversion from what he's actually doing.

That's worrisome. And people who put his comments on sport as important news is worrisome, too.

Cheers.

[Catchawave]

40. Wasn't the title of the article helpful ?

Bush+Palmeiro+Steroids = Sports?

[IA_Seth]

41. And not to waste any more of your important time....

but haven't you spent more time arguing about this than you did just reading the article in the first place?

So, who do you think is going to win the world series anyway?

Hee hee

[punpirate]

42. Who do I think will win the World Series?

The bin Laden Bombers....

[hoboken123]

60. So you can't be bothered to read the title of the thread?

But you bitch about the subject after clicking the link, making multiple posts about how precious your time is.

I'll talk to the admins, see if we can change the whole site around for you.

Guess that'd be easier than not clicking the link...

[kestrel91316]

62. Hide the thread if it annoys you, and quit bitching. Sheesh.

[Miss Chybil]

47. Got your attention, didn't it? nt

[jobycom]

6. Well, there goes Palmeiro's credibility.

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. Well if bush** says his longtime friend never intentionally

used steroids, he must be telling the truth. :shrug: And bush** is still an idiot.

"He's the kind of person that's going to stand up in front of the klieg lights and say he didn't use steroids, and I believe him. Still do," Why didn't he just say that he believes what his friend say about his alleged steroid use and leave it at that? Does he aim to impress with his baseball terminology? :eyes:

[DFWJock]

13. Maybe

he was just associated with a steriod related activity program.

[gatorboy]

44. Isn't it funny how everyone who Bush defends has fuzzy memories.

Gee, steroids are illegal? I completely forgot! :eyes:

[rodeodance]

12. yup--family values at their best---STAND BY YOUR MAN (MEN).

[deadparrot]

14. Is Palmeiro a BushBot? nt

[arcane1]

15. ok, stupid-assed question:

how does one "accidentally" use steroids? :shrug:

[Catchawave]

I'm waiting for Palmeiro to 'splain this.....

...especially that he testified before Congress, under oath, he "doesn't use steroids. period".

[Career Prole]

33. He caught steroids from a toilet seat in the clubhouse.

:eyes:

[yebrent]

16. I smell a Cabinet position for Palmeiro.

He passed the test and lied under oath. He will at least get promoted out of this. ;-)

[David Zephyr]

18. Common ground: Bush & Palmeiro both lie to Congress.

[Starfury]

21. If you lie to Congress, Bush is your friend (Bolton, Rove, etc.) n/t

[Sgent]

22. Why I'm glad the media is reporting on this

Anytime Bush makes ESPN be derided as a hypocrite, its a good thing.

I'm sorry, but even though its not earthshattering, its important.

[Disturbed]

28. Isn't lying to Congress a Felony?

Uh...never mind. Forgot that it only applies if it is a Dem &/or an Independent or anyone that is not a RWinger.

[Canuckistanian]

23. Rove, Lay, Negroponte, Bin Laden Family, and now Palmeiro

The Chimp is sure friendly with these criminals and cheaters now, isn't he?

[DemocracyInaction]

26. Yo, maybe something the morons of America can finally understand

Honest to God....this could be it!!! Saw a poll today where 90% that this baseball player was a lying sack of shit about not knowing he "did" steroids and only 10 believed. Then they have da' man in da' White House says "I believe him". Now, maybe every Limbaugh-listening, dumbassed, beer swilling, jock will see the light and might even have one brain cell fire and say "jeeees, maybe he did lie us into Iraq...maybe he is lying about loving us common people, etc.". I mean it was just six steps beyond assinine for the idiot in the White House to say this. He's so drunk on his own power that he thinks that if he 'says so' the people will believe. Not this time, honey 'cause you stepped right into the kind of garp that fills their little minds.

[KamaAina]

27. Just watch: Bush** will install Viagra Man as Commissioner

although, come to think, he might not actually be any worse than Selig, the "bratwurst Machiavelli"!

[Miss Chybil]

46. He'll probably give him the Medal of Freedom... nt

[KeepItReal]

52. Yep! That's how much lying to Congress is worth nowadays...

:grr:

[FreeStateDemocrat]

35. From one drug abuser to another, birds of a feather....

[Ilsa]

43. In a few months, Bush* will assert that he still believes in Santa Claus,

the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.

Go ahead Georgie. Just keep saying what you believe and maybe it'll come true in your brain.

[AngryAmish]

45. Is Cindy Sandberg mentioned?

[BootinUp]

49. You people have no compassion

You probably think Rush Limbaugh should be in prison!




(dripping with sarcasm)

[daleo]

50. Bush stands behind liars and cheaters

It is a matter of lookout for your own kind.

[Supersedeas]

63. like minded friends--the State of the Union and Raffi's Congressional

testimony are two of a kind

[zara]

54. He should have appointed him UN Ambassador; or to SCOTUS

[Seabiscuit]

58. Duck, Rafael! This is the Kiss of Death to your Hall of Fame hopes.

[Deja Q]

65. Palmeiro must be a big donor then?

:shrug:

[GoBlue]

68. Not too shabby

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[Riverman]

67. Performance Enhancement

So, we are to believe that the guy who is the spokesman for a performance enhancing drug - VIAGRA, does not take performance enhancement drugs!

[NYC]

69. I think this is very interesting news.

I never watch ESPN, so wouldn't have known about this. Look at these very Bush-like excerpts from the article:

...Palmeiro, is one of several professional athletes who testified under oath before a US congressional committee that he had never taken steroids.

But the Cuba-born first baseman is the seventh player and first star to receive a steroid ban under a new policy agreed upon by owners and the players' union earlier this year -- one that was harshly criticized by the US Congress as being too lax.

In a statement released Monday after the suspension was announced, Palmeiro changed his claim to say he never "intentionally" has taken steroids...

Seems there was enough evidence to suspend him, yet Bush sides with Palmeiro, not the investigators.

I hope a lot of people watch ESPN.