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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:13 AM
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Slain Marines tried to root out insurgents
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Slain Marines tried to root out insurgents

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - The 21 Marines killed in northern Iraq this week were trying to contain "a very lethal and, unfortunately, adaptive enemy" operating in towns along the Euphrates River, a top Pentagon general said Wednesday.

"They are dangerous and they certainly have a capability," said Brig Gen. Carter Ham, deputy director for operations at the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "But whether or not they have an ability to freely operate in that area, I think not."

A Marine amphibious assault vehicle on patrol during combat operations near the Syrian border hit a roadside bomb Wednesday, and 14 Marines were killed in one of the deadliest single attacks in Iraq against American forces.

Ham declined to provide details of Wednesday's attack, saying it was too early in the investigation.

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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:16 AM
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1. Hey, they're in their death throes, just let them die...
Right, Cheney, you pigfucker?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:18 AM
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3.  "a very lethal and, unfortunately, adaptive enemy"
sounds like the complete opposite :-(
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:01 PM
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27. bush's war on terror is starting to look like special ops training for
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 02:01 PM by okieinpain
terrorist. I wonder how many super terrorist's are going to come out of this war for freedom.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:24 AM
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5. The weird thing about Cheney...
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 11:32 AM by The Night Owl
Cheney is portrayed by the Republicans and the media as being a sage and tranquil operator with a lot of experience, but the more the guy talks, the more it becomes apparent that he is an absolute idiot and blowhard.

One has to wonder... Is Cheney drunk or is he really that stupid?

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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:30 AM
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9. Despot painted into a corner by his greed and blood lust, and cowardice.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:56 AM
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13. I'd just go w/ greed and amorality/sociopathy. n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:45 PM
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23. you've hit on something here

Cheney has some aura of age-tempered-know-it-all-ism that at first glance looks like he knows something about something. But then the more you listen your realize that he's probably as dumb as his "boss"
there is something evil in this stupidity, though...
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:11 PM
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29. There was a guy from the Brookings Institute on CNN
this morning saying Cheney's last throes comments were way off the mark, that the insurgents, terrorists are pretty lively. Cheney is as far off as Rummy's comments on deadenders
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:17 AM
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2. Last throes
I caught Barbara Starr on CNN and they showed a clip from the Pentagon briefing. Guess what?!! They were killed BECAUSE WE ARE WINNING. Since we are now attacking simultaneously in many places, the insurgents do not have anywhere to flee, so they are killing our soldiers. Plain and clear, last throes, don't you know...

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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:24 AM
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6. man, what will it look like when we are conducting mop up operations...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:51 AM
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11. the only ones doing the mopping up
will be the Iraqis themselves when the USA is gone. :(
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:19 PM
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17. Oooooohhhh!
I get it now, I am so glad she cleared that up! It all makes sense :crazy:

:(
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:18 AM
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4. With all due respect to the slain Marines...
... it looks like the "insurgents" are trying to root out them.


-P
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:25 AM
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7. This is what NBC News was reporting on the 6 deaths yesterday
For U.S. military officials, the deaths of the six Marines Monday raises an unsettling prospect: that they may have been victims of someone with inside information.

The six were members of two sniper teams, trained to pick off the enemy at a distance, one-by-one, with a single precision shot.

Officials report the sniper teams were working together and in position when they were ambushed by insurgents.

Marines nearby heard the short, heavy burst of enemy gunfire that apparently killed five of the Marine snipers instantly. Evidence indicates the attack came so quickly the Marines were unable to return fire.

The sixth Marine either escaped or was taken prisoner but was later found dead a mile or so from the scene of the attack.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8797271/

Last throes my ass Cheney! I get the feeling with the '06 midterms looming next year that * is about to declare victory and mostly pull out. I feel for those poor troops that will be left in Iraq. * has gotten us in to the ultimate no-win situation. And I find it ironic with how the Repukes smeared Hackett that the 20 Marines are from Ohio. I feel for the families, but too bad they are not from Schmidt's district. Those who voted for her and who voted for * have the blood of these Marines and all the 1800 plus thousands of Iraqis on their Red Hands.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:13 PM
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30. Some terror expert on CNN said several people in the Iraq police and
military are in the Moslem radical groups and have dual loyalties and that this was going to keep happening
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:28 AM
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8. This exaltation of the war is for the stupid, not the sane, who will never
consume the crap the pentagon Fascists shovel us.Vietnam was winnable up to the final capture of Saigon, Apr 30, 1975.
Warriors are liars, above the rank of private.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:31 AM
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10. Whatta bunch of crap
"But whether or not they have an ability to freely operate in that area, I think not."

Uhm, I believe they are operating freely and killing at will.

RL
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:55 AM
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12. Everytime you hear someone say 'last throes' or that we are
winning, you're listening to an asshole who doesn't have family or friends over there. It's easy to be so 'cool' about it when you don't have anything or anyone to lose.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:57 AM
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14. How many more will die before people get the pitchforks and torches out?
I can't stand it anymore, i really can't. I'm so angry i'm shaking.
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emc Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:02 PM
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15. but dont worry
Hey, things must be looking up in Iraq---why else would air head be down on the pig farm falling off his bike----what a simpleton we have for a president----
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:37 PM
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20. But it's like 9/11, you know -- reading the book to children
he is doing his presidential best to calm us down. Otherwise we would all be panicking about Iraq, so he has to do it for our collective well being. He hates Crawford -- but that's his sacrifice for all of us.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:13 PM
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16. they have an ability to freely operate in that area, I think not.
Brig Gen. Carter Ham WHAT AN ASSCLOWN
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:29 PM
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18. I'm on pins and needles.
Two of the people I know that are in Iraq are in that same Ohio Battalion that lost all of these men in the past day. I keep refreshing the casualty lists and they won't release the names. I pray for something positive.

Condolences to all families who lost soldiers and citizens.

If ANYthing happens to Jeff or Dave, anyone who supports this war or voted for this administration . . . enemy. For life. There's no excuse for this much loss.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:33 PM
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19. WE TOLD THE ASSCLOWNS THAT 2 1/2 years ago here
We called it IRAQ-NAM and said there were a lot of War Crimes and needless killing to be committed.

I was called all kinds of names by some clowns here
GUESS I WAS RIGHT ---EH?
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:40 PM
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21. So sorry you have to go through that, and hope your friends are okay!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:44 PM
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22. Thank you. I feel sick.
I hope to Whoever I don't see their names on my screen.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:44 PM
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24. Hope so too.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:56 PM
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25. Good luck with that.
I have family over there too.
I try not to think about it.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:59 PM
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26. Smokin' 'em out o' their holes! Bring it on!!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:07 PM
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28. And Where's Chimpy?? Off on Vacation!
Could someone with broadband try to find for me how many days of vacation FDR took during WWII??

How about Truman and Ike during the Korean War?

How many days did Wilson take off during the "War to End All Wars" (WWI)?

yep, "pretzle-denting is 'hard werk'"!

I only wish I had to "werk" that hard.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:18 PM
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31. But really when you think about it...
(rant mode: ON)

... do we really give a sh*t where the f*ck Bush is at anytime? I mean, he's pretty much useless anywhere. Hey... let him take the next 2 years off!

(rant mode: OFF)


-P
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:40 PM
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33. You're Absolutely Right!!
Stay on vacation you sick *%&$! Maybe then the only thing you can fuck up is the traffic around your pig farm.

Ranch - my Ass!
Liberal Media - my Ass!
Compassionate Conservative - my Ass!

Maybe with him on vacation, our government will "suck less".
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:21 PM
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32. The Only Way That We're Ever Going To Pull Completely Out Of Iraq
is if there's a military draft. Once Upper Middle Class White surburban kids are killed in action, then you'll see political progress on Iraq.
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