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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:24 PM
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New Documents Show FBI Targeting Peaceful Protesters in Colorado ..
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 06:25 PM by struggle4progress
.. as Potential Terrorists

DENVER -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado today released new documents that it says confirm that the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) is inappropriately treating people who engage in peaceful protest as potential terrorists.

The ACLU obtained the documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed last December on behalf of 16 organizations and ten individuals. The files released today contain information on the Colorado American Indian Movement and the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Center.

"These documents underscore the ACLU's concern that the JTTF inappropriately regards public protest as potential 'domestic terrorism,' and investigates and builds files on the political activities of peaceful dissenters because of the mere possibility that their activities will attract participants who may violate the law," said Mark Silverstein, ACLU of Colorado Legal Director. "By casting its net so unjustifiably wide, the FBI wastes taxpayers' money and threatens to chill legitimate dissent."

Silverstein said that the new files show that JTTF agents opened "domestic terrorism" investigations after they read notices on Web sites announcing an antiwar protest in Colorado Springs in 2003 and a protest against Columbus Day in Denver in 2002. They also reveal that the JTTF monitored the peaceful protest activities of law-abiding groups that formed the Coalition to Stop Vail Expansion in the late 1990s and that it investigated the Boulder-based Activist Media Project for videotaping a Lockheed Martin facility from a public street. <snip>

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=18862&c=206


<edit:> ACLU: Records confirm FBI investigated protesters

The FBI gave the ACLU documents on its investigations into the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Center and the Colorado American Indian Movement, said Mark Silverstein, legal director for Colorado ACLU.

"Many people in this country want law enforcement agencies to investigate terrorism," he said. "That's obviously a high priority. I don't think people support investigating people who pose no threat. And that's what these documents prove." <snip>

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=15623

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:26 PM
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1. As active as I am in Southern California, I bet I"m on a list, too.
In fact, I'd be disappointed if I weren't. :cry:

I need a hug. :hug:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:29 PM
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4. I know, if I'm not on the no-fly list by now,
nobody should be. ;)
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:14 PM
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9. here's a hug ...
That is, if you don't mind one from a person who's probably got a note in her security file which dates back to WWII. My Nisei parents were interned in a prison camp ... and in many cases this information was concatenated with the kids' files. My cousin learned this while applying for a federal job that required a security screening. Her name was red-flagged, because they'd mistaken her for her mother -- even though their first names aren't even alike. (Yes, the government apologized more than 20 years ago, but apparently the "interned as possible terrorist" info never got expunged.) The feds told her that this happens a lot with internees' families.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:59 AM
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25. Reminds me of the 60's
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 01:04 AM by burrowowl
and when I was very little: McCarthy of the 50's and the HUAC!
And the U$ invaing Mexico and and and ....
AND
Do read Howard Zinn's: A People's History of the United States and Kevin Phillips (former Repug): Wealth and Democracy!
PLEASE!
Edit to add:
Your only protection is to take to the streets MASSIVELY! And to your State's Secretary of State to REQUIRE VERIFIABLE VOTING! (paper ballots are the best, like in Canada, Europe, etc. in 1974 there was a White Paper Report on computer voting and many flaws were found, just think of the flaws now).
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:27 PM
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2. COINTELPRO is back with a vengeance; I hate being right
Gee, the "war on terrorism"^W^W^W^W^W "global struggle against violent extremism" is exactly what I anticipated. No surprises whatsoever.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:28 PM
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3. Since there is some research that people have an innate sense
of when they're being watched even when they cannot see who is staring at them, I wonder how surveillance of peaceful protestors changes the protestors apparent behavior?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:55 PM
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5. And NOW you know why they're now calling it the war on extremists
So they can target Americans and get away with it, in spades. Off to Gitmo for YOU, you peaceful protester extremist, you!

What, they're not violent? They're PEACEFUL? Why, that can be fixed. All they have to do is what they used to do in the 60s and 70s, what they did in Seattle and Italy at the G8 meeting -- foment a little rough stuff, plant bomb-making materials, provoke reactions, or just do it themselves and BLAME the protesters. Who'll know the difference when all is said and done?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:04 PM
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6. potential terrorists. ---GAWD!! what is this country coming to?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:54 PM
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33. When you fear your own government,....it's a tyranny.
Who said that or something like that? I can't remember.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:09 PM
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7. Colorado AIM? Columbus Day demo?
Could be a Ward Churchill connection here, folks...
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 08:10 PM
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15. If AIM were really terrorists
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 08:12 PM by intheflow
they wouldn't spend months planning civil disobedience for Columbus Day protests with the Denver Police Department. Honestly!
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:55 AM
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31. I know. But...
Ward Churchill played a large role in uncovering and publicizing COINTELPRO revelations... could the current campaign against him be payback?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:12 PM
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8. I imagine you will find the same thing in every state
We suspected this is what they were doing, and here is the proof. :grr:


Another nasty aspect of the JTTF is that each host city (there are one hundred) allows for a couple of their city police officers to work with them (hence, joint). Unless the chief of police or mayor has extremely high security clearance (and I doubt that any do), the city police officers are not accountable to local officials.

Portland Mayor said no accountability, no city police officers. The JTTF said no, none of you have high enough clearance. Mayor Potter then told them thanks but no thanks. Hubby told me recently, though, that the feds made a deal to get Oregon state police to join the JTTF.



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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:35 PM
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18. I think here in CA they were or still are having the NATIONAL GUARD
spy on dissidents.

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:17 PM
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10. The scary thing is that the JTTF might be that dumb.
What if they actually believe it? What if they actually believe peaceful protest is related to terrorism?
Of course they couldn't be more wrong. Peaceful protest is a civil activity based on trust in the humanity of the opponent being protested, a trust which believes that publically showing yourself in the protest will change hearts. (Black Blocs Suck) Terrorism is not based in trust and opening the hearts of opponents. It operates off a different model.
Could their understanding of terrorists be so off? Its a scary thought.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:21 PM
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11. well, if your choice of assignments is as follows:
1) infiltrate gang of meth-crazed bikers who disembowelled a suspected ATF agent

2) infiltrate sinister foreign drug traffickers who fed the last person they thought had a "put-on" accent to the drug lord's pet crocodile

3) infiltrate hard-core cell of al Qaeda fanatics who beheaded one of their own guys just for uttering a compliment about that spawn of the Great Satan, Jennifer Lopez

4) infiltrate peace group which rotates cookie-baking duties


Assuming you get paid the same regardless, and you want to survive long enough to earn your pension, which one would you choose?

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:58 PM
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14. Yeah, well said, hookers and potheads are good targets too.
They don't shoot back.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 05:09 AM
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29. Uh, number 4? n/t
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:33 PM
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12. If I wasn't I am now! Boy, just think of all our tax dollars the Roman
Empire, I'm mean the United States is wasting on investigating Democrats!!!!!

FBI Whistleblower Testifies That Government Scientist Lied About Bomb Crystals
A government scientist lied when he claimed that ammonium nitrate crystals found on Oklahoma City bombing debris had been embedded by the force of the blast, an FBI whistleblower testified Wednesday at bombing conspirator Terry Nichols' state murder trial.

Frederic Whitehurst, testifying for the defense, said an FBI forensic scientist he trained himself, Steven Burmeister, also lied when he testified that the crystals came from the kind of fertilizer believed to have been used in the bombing.

Whitehurst said there was not enough evidence to support either of Burmeister's conclusions.

"He is my student. And I trust him like a brother. But he lied under oath. He lied," Whitehurst said, appearing to grimace with emotion.
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAHWG3VFUD.html


Lost In Translation
Edmonds says that the supervisor, in an effort to slow her down, went so far as to erase completed translations from her FBI computer after she'd left work for the day.


“The next day I would come to work, turn on my computer and the work would be gone. The translation would be gone,” she says. “Then I had to start all over again and retranslate the same document. And I went to my supervisor and he said, ‘Consider it a lesson and don't talk about it to anybody else and don't mention it.’”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml


FBI official charged with obstruction after concealing Ruby Ridge report
(Harp was in on this too and now he heads the anthrax cover-up.)
http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/22/ruby.ridge.final /


Busting the FBI
The Judi Bari verdict bares government lies and deceit
They found that six agents of the FBI and the Oakland police twisted a murder attempt against Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney, two Earth First! activists working to reform logging practices
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/31/news-kuipers.php


Fighting an FBI frame-up
An Earth First! member relates how she and Darryl Cherney were framed by the FBI for a car bombing that nearly killed them. The frame-up was one of a long series of events in the FBI's campaign against the environmental movement. It has been four years since Darryl Cherney and I were nearly killed in a 1990 car-bomb assassination attempt, then arrested for possession of the bomb
http://www.wildrockies.org/cove/news/62194nw.html


Did The FBI Destroy Evidence?
The FBI and prosecutors ordered the destruction in 1999 of evidence from a bank robbery they once suspected linked Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh to white supremacists who were threatening before McVeigh's bombing to attack the government, documents show.
The evidence included a surveillance videotape of a bank robbery by some of the supremacists that occurred in Ohio five months before the bombing. The FBI lab compared the tape to pictures of McVeigh, but concluded a match was "inconclusive," internal memos show.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/12/national/main540266.shtml



FBI Whistleblower Harassed
Special agent John Roberts says he was threatened, intimidated and humiliated for exposing what he said has become a pattern of misconduct at the highest levels of the FBI and that has gone unpunished.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/25/60minutes/main530750.shtml



FBI Meeting Called A Sham
A Justice Department investigation into a 1997 retirement dinner for former FBI Deputy Director Larry A. Potts said senior bureau executives used a sham conference at the FBI training academy in Quantico, Va., to justify using taxpayer funds for cross-country travel to Washington.
http://www.americansovereign.com/newsarchive/fbisham.htm



Phone records: Link from state official to FBI
Deputy AG reportedly sought federal aid to find missing Democrats
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/politics/state/stories/...


The FBI is conducting an exhaustive review of each of its thousands of human intelligence sources to ensure the information they provide is accurate and that their relationships with FBI handlers are proper.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/28/national/main551346.shtml

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Earth Threatened, Wen Ho Lee Released
http://unquietmind.com/wenholee.html

Wen Ho Lee is Just one more example of FBI Misdirection. Many elements of the case are similar to Unabomber Charade. Together they are textbook examples of Government tactics on Black Ops.
http://www.unabombers.com/z23.htm

http://www.wenholee.org /

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FBI Agent, Turner, blew whistle on Ground Zero, 911, theft.
She says she immediately reported the problem to a federal prosecutor, then to her supervisor, and waited for him to act.
Two weeks later, after nothing apparently had been done, Turner seized the globe, bagged it as evidence and took it to Justice Department officials in Washington.
(She's being fired.)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/907004.asp?0cv=CB10

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Poll: 4 out of 10 Americans don't trust FBI
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001-05-22-mcveigh-pollstory.htm

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With defense lawyers stepping up challenges to genetic evidence, the Justice Department inspector general is examining the FBI lab unit that analyzes DNA in hundreds of cases a year after a technician was caught failing to follow proper procedure.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/11/tech/main543575.shtml

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FBI says it withheld evidence from McVeigh lawyers
http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/05/10/mcveigh.evidence.02 /

Nichols: FBI Withheld On Purpose
A lawyer for Terry Nichols, who was convicted as Timothy McVeigh's assistant in the Oklahoma City bombing, claimed the FBI may have intentionally withheld documents from defense lawyers and misled federal prosecutors.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/05/14/national/main291113.shtml

FBI report on agents released after long delay

An internal FBI report kept under wraps for three years details dozens of cases of agents fired for egregious misconduct and crimes, including drug trafficking, attempted murder, theft, misuse of informants and consorting with prostitutes.

The report, released Wednesday by Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, found that about one in 1,000 agents was dismissed for serious misconduct or criminal offenses by the FBI during the period examined, from 1986 to 1999. The average was between eight and nine per year.

Although the numbers were small, the FBI’s attempts to prevent the report’s disclosure from the public and Congress since its completion in June 2000 is raising questions among FBI critics about an attempt to avoid embarrassment.

Grassley, a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a letter Wednesday to FBI Director Robert Mueller that he was concerned about “a lack of response to the findings and recommendations, a general lack of support for the project and even efforts to prevent its completion.”

Grassley said the report “almost never saw the light of day.” It was only provided to lawmakers in July 2003, months after it was requested, and was accompanied by a Justice Department letter urging that it be kept confidential.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4312671/



PORTLAND, May 24 (Reuters) - A Muslim attorney from Oregon, held for two weeks, often manacled and chained, as a material witness in the March 11 train bombing in Spain, was cleared on Monday with an apology from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation.

"Hamdullilah, thank God I'm here," 37 year-old Brandon Mayfield told a packed press conference.

Mayfield, who was released on Friday, had been held under the 1984 material witness law because Spanish authorities and the Federal Bureau of Investigation had thought that a single fingerprint on a bag with detonators found near a Madrid train station matched his print.

But the Federal District Court said on Monday that "he was the victim of a misidentification by the FBI" and at a separate FBI press conference, Robert Jordan, the FBI agent in charge of the Oregon office, apologized to Mayfield and his family for the hardships his detention has caused.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N24384876.htm


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FBI Whistleblower Claims Confirmed

WASHINGTON, July 29, 2004


"The problems were systemic problems that existed within the FBI's translation units that involve security breaches and also incompetence. These were the problems I reported."
Sibel Edmonds


(CBS) A newly disclosed letter confirmed charges by a former FBI interpreter that she was fired at least in part because she blew the whistle on incompetent workers at the bureau.

When the FBI fired interpreter Sibel Edmonds more than two years ago after only a few months on the job, it had no idea the can of worms it was opening up. And today it got yet another taste.

In a letter released on Capitol Hill, FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged that the a recently concluded internal Justice Department investigation found "a contributing factor" in Edmonds firing was the fact that she had accused the bureau of ineptitude, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

Edmonds insisted today, the ineptitude still exists.

"The problems were systemic problems that existed within the FBI's translation units that involve security breaches and also incompetence. These were the problems I reported," she said.

Edmonds is now working on her PhD and acts as an advisor to the Sept. 11 families. It was just after the Sept. 11 attacks that she offered her services to the FBI as a Turkish and Middle Eastern language specialist.

But shortly after joining the bureau's Washington field office, she said she encountered sloppy work by colleagues and was told by superiors to work slower so the bureau might justify demands for a bigger budget.

"I was warned that if I were to make these issues public and take them outside the bureau I would be retaliated against and I would be fired. And exactly that's what occurred," she said.

Mueller said he would work with the Justice Department to determine whether disciplinary action is required of any bureau employees as a result of the Edmonds case.

Meanwhile the bureau insists it has made progress with its translation problems by hiring more interpreters. On Sept. 11 it had only 70 Arabic speakers. Now it has over 200, but acknowledges it still needs more.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/29/eveningnews/main632983.shtml


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U.S. to Unseal Evidence in Failed China Spy Case

A federal judge threw out the government's case against Leung in January, saying prosecutors had engaged in misconduct by barring her FBI handler, James Smith, from talking to Leung's lawyers.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=nm/security_leung_dc

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:10 PM
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19. Hey, lot of good links there...
You might want to check out the new whistleblower's DU group that was just set up this week and add this input there...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:50 PM
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22. Thanks. Didn't know about that. Actually I have just a little hole in the
DU. Things have changed so fast. Actually I don't even have time to look at much else. Before, there weren't even any rules on the DU. I sort of miss those days!!!!!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:18 AM
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24. No rules really...
I'm not a mod either. Just put together this forum so that people could catch up on older historical information on these topics, to avoid having to have each person "refreshed" in each thread. Whistleblowers are a topic that are notoriously avoided by the press and other places where such information would be kept.

We still encourage people to post a lot of new stuff in the mainstream groups though, because we don't want to isolate discussion away where it can't be "stumbled upon" by someone who becomes interested through doing so.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 03:21 PM
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34. .
:7
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:57 PM
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13. and the nerve of those who say we're just being paranoid and pretentious
all tinfoily oogada boogada and alienating our party and all the other crap we take when we say that this shit is happening right now.

"Protesting... its not just for wimps anymore!"

Not when some cop can accidentally crack your skull because of the pressure that he is under and you can then be framed and picked up and kicked up and all in the name of homeland security that doesn't really exist.

New american theocratic fascism!! We give you a reach a round while you get screwed. thats why we aren't like nazis!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 08:11 PM
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16. Hey, who's not doing their job?!?
Somebody didn't get the memo from Dick that all FOI requests are to be stalled until after 2008.

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:19 PM
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17. And since terrorists want Dumbyass and his cronies in office,
they'll never even be suspected.
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:58 PM
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20. "Ladies Sewing Circle and Terrorist Society"
A T-shirt I had back in the 80's after the FBI investigated a group of women who sent a hand made peace quilt to Ronald Raygun.

Nothings changed here.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:09 PM
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21. I consider myself a charter member of the LSCATS!
Been at this protesting stuff for a long time.

I guess there's no retiring from this gig.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:05 AM
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23. I think an FBI guy took a picture of me and my son
at our peace table a few weeks ago in South Orange. My 5 y.o. son was helping to sell "Be About Peace" T shirts and lawn signs and some guy came over and took our picture. I asked him where he was from and he hesitated and said the picture might be published in a local paper. Now, I know reporters walk around a take lots of pictures and all can't go in the local paper, but I just have that feeling that he was taking pictures for other reasons! Instead of focusing on peace groups, I wonder if there are files on Dobson and his radical followers. Somehow, I doubt it.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:13 AM
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26. So what! They can look all they want. We will WATCH RIGHT BACK
WE are watching them. Now open your eyes big and wide. Do you want the blue pill of red pill?

9/11 was an inside job.

We have the whistleblowers. 10's, maybe 100's of them have wanted to step forward and testify. Some have testified in front of the 9/11 Commission, but was omitted in the end. 9/11 Commission Report was a sham.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 01:24 AM
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27. Big Brother is watching.
nt
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 03:07 AM
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28. Right, just like we thought ...
the terrorist are whomever our free society wants them to be.
Seems to me, they are only after innocent's - are we sure they are not the devil? :evilgrin:

Worse than Nixon and the 60's, more high tech equipment. :hippie:

Also, don't think Nixon had a Gitmo! :scared:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 05:59 AM
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30. We need to STAND UP AND FIGHT
Repeal the Patriot Act before we start producing papers.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:06 PM
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32. Revolting!!! Members of the highest levels of government should be,...
,...investigated since they are the ones who have presented themselves as a danger to national security and have effectively terrorized the entire American populace with their intentional lying and betrayal of democracy and the Constitution.

This just makes me sick!!! :puke:
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