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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:23 PM
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Israeli Businessman Sentenced in Plot to Ship Nuclear Detonation Devices
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBBMD5M0CE.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) - An Israeli businessman who conspired to ship controlled nuclear technology to Pakistan was sentenced to three years in federal prison.
U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbina on Thursday imposed the sentence on Asher Karni, who pleaded guilty last year to helping ship devices that could be used to test, develop and detonate nuclear weapons.


OK - now here is a guy who admits to selling nuclear components. And he gets three - count em - three years?????!!!!?????? And we have people who are imprisoned without charges indefinately - because they MIGHT be terrorists???????
My outrage meter is overloading.......
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:25 PM
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1. definitely seems like a slap on the wrist
that is an understatement

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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:34 PM
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3. Oh come on!
IT IS AN OUTRAGE. If this fellow was....of Arab descent......he would never see the light of day for the rest of his life. We know this.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:40 PM
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6. I was being sarcastic, duh!!!!
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:42 PM
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7. I know you were
And apologize - I am sorry.... the rant was not meant to be directed at you. It is the whole thing. It curdles my blood and drives me nuts.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:44 PM
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8. I am sorry too, I should not have thrown it back that way
the whole thing stinks

it is outrageous the hypocricy
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roughandtumble Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:42 PM
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15. only a Den would wnat to punish a jew for screwing the US...
What did u expect? An anti semitism charge? The repugs are happy to sell the US soul to isreal.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:27 PM
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2. then you wonder why "they" hate the US of A
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:36 PM
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4. ITHIS IS WHY
Israel MUST be forced to comply with the anti-proliferation nuclear treaty and must open up for inspection, verification.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:21 PM
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13. Israel didn't SIGN the treaty. So fuhgggeddaboudit!!!
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:23 AM
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26. Because they refuse to admit
That they even HAVE a nuclear program - even though the whole world knows they do.

They have to come clean with the world. Transparency is what we demand of others - it should be also for Israel.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:04 PM
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30. They don't have to admit a damn thing. Not on your say-so, anyhow.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:39 PM
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5. Unbelieveable. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:48 PM
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9. The US funded the Pak Bomb - and supplied "Atoms for peace" tech
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 06:48 PM by papau
help.

I suspect our Pentagon/CIA worked out the light sentence in return for his keeping his mouth shut.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:07 AM
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19. to counter the Indian bomb
they were friends of the Soviet Union at the time. My, how things change.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:12 AM
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21. :-)
:-)
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:49 PM
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10. The best part - these triggers were stolen initially by the hollywood
producer Arnon Milchan who was working for Israel. 800 Triggers
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp
"SMYTH, A FORMER science adviser to the U.S. Air Force, disappeared in August 1985 after his indictment, leaving federal investigators unable to prove his role in the illegal shipment of 800 nuclear weapons triggers to Israeli companies owned by Arnon Milchan, a Hollywood producer and industrialist with dual citizenship in Israel and Monaco. "
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 06:49 PM
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11. Rewarding dangerous criminals w/a lousy 3 years!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:22 PM
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12. how much would he have gotten if he was Pakistani?
I can hear the flames craklin' already.
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:38 PM
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14. 10,000 years
no flames here, just the plain old truth
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:07 AM
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22. Unlikely he would have gotten much more
Pakistan is as big, if not, even bigger a recipient of US military aid than Israel.

Remember AQ Khan? He was given a slap on the wrist by Mushy and Bush co did nothing more. Instead they said Mushy did great and all was well.

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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:48 PM
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16. What is a Nuclear Detonation Device?
Reading List:
1.

2.

3.

Category XII-Fire Control, Range Finder, Optical and Guidance and Control Equipment

*(b) Lasers specifically designed, modified or configured for military application including those used in military communication devices, target designators and range finders, target detection systems, and directed energy weapons.
AND THERE IS A THREE VOLUME SET OF PACKED LOOSE LEAF BINDERS THAT GOES INTO EVEN MORE DETAIL


Back to our original question: "What is a Nuclear Detonation Device?"

Answer: Two parts:
(1). It is the Inductor-Capacitor-Resistor part of the Laser Read/Write head in your DVD/CD read/write device if and only if it can be separated from the laser without destroying the circuit.

(2). But, if the Inductor-Capacitor-Resistor part of the Laser Read/Write head in your DVD/CD if it can not be separated from the laser without destroying the circuit then it is not a detonator.

Litmus test- can you separate the Inductor-Capacitor-Resistor part of the Laser Read/Write head in your DVD/CD read/write device from the actual Laser without destroying the LRC circuit?
    (1). No - it will destroy the circuit -- not a detonator.
    (2). Yes - Then it is a detonator


Scary part - at one time - you could buy the read write head as two separate and distinct components on two separate and distinct pieces of Silicon - (i) the inductor-capacitor-resistor circuit (i.e., a detonator), and (ii) the laser. DOD and DOE had a fit hemorrhage about that.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:01 AM
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18. So, is my CD player about to blow?
:shrug:
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:29 AM
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24. No
1. You need a bunch of them arrayed in a spherical pattern.
2. You need the timer to fire them in the right sequence (a 2 GHz Pentium would do if you had the right firing sequence - maybe Bob Novak or Karl Rove will give it to you ;)).
3. You need the sphere of Lithium-Tritium alloy encased in a fissile material shell - with the thicknesses just right (get that from Scooter Libby or Steve Cambone ;)).
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:58 AM
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17. Is this considered "white collar" or something?!!
This is nuts!!!

Execution for treason!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:31 AM
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25. Executions for Treason
Bob Novak and Karl Rove
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:09 AM
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20. Good thing he wasn't selling marijuana, he'd get 15 years
...day for day.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 08:08 AM
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23. lol
Yeah, it's amazing how this country works. fuckin biarro world.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:35 AM
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28. ahhh you beat me to it
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:34 AM
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27. if he had tried to ship marijuana it would be 25 years not 3
funny how these things work
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 11:41 AM
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29. C'mon, let's stop this infringement on the free enterprise system
Since when has the profit motive become subject to issues of morality, justice, and ethics?

:sarcasm:
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