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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:22 AM
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Clinton advises Cherie to be MP
August 07, 2005

Clinton advises Cherie to be MP



IF Tony Blair resigns his seat at the next election, Bill Clinton has a suggestion: he thinks Cherie should turn to politics and he’ll even campaign for her, writes Sarah Baxter.

“When he’s done and she wants a go, it would please me greatly. She is an enormously able person. I love her,” the former American president says.

Inspired by the example of his own wife Hillary, a senator who hopes to run for the White House in 2008, Clinton is offering to go on the stump for Cherie.

“If she ever campaigned for office and wanted me to go ringing doorbells for her, I’d be happy to do it. I think she’s great,” says Clinton in an interview in today’s Sunday Times News Review. The former president — who describes himself as “healthy as a horse” and fully recovered from his heart surgery last year — calls Britain’s equivalent of the first lady “young and vigorous”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1724503,00.html


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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:23 AM
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1. Given that young Euan Blair is about to start a Republican
internship, I assume this must be a vintage example of Clintonesque irony....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:24 AM
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2. Is that telling or what?
cheri has her own problems in Britain, does she not?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:24 AM
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3. Uhh Bill
No, just plain no :spank:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:25 AM
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4. Interview: Sarah Baxter talks to Bill Clinton, Sunday Times link:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:26 AM
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5. Sorry to say this,but i think Bill should shut up for a while
:)
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:27 AM
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6. Bill is just full of surprises these days
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:28 AM
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7. keep bill clinton away from women ok? nt
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:28 AM
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8. Ho-hum. More bad advice from Clinton. Barbara Bush's new
son should think before he opens his mouth.

And, Cherie, honey, take some baking lessons. You might be needing to smuggle a hacksaw into the Hague for Tony.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:30 AM
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9. They had fun taking the quotes slightly out of context on BBC radio
It is never too late to change course, Clinton suggests playfully. Cherie is “young and vigorous”, he points out. “When he’s done and she wants a go, it would please me greatly. She is an enormously able person. I love her.”

He reflects for a bit. “They may be sick of it by then; it’s up to them what they do.” But he goes on to make Cherie an irresistible offer.


Just don't think about politics, and see how you can interpret his remarks ... ;-)
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:32 AM
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10. So I wasn't the only one who interpreted it that way
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:39 AM
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13. If Bill Clinton was talking about my woman that way.......
I'd never let either one of them out of my sight. Clinton is one man you don't want trying to mow your lawn. He's a little too smooth around the ladies...... B-)
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:48 AM
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15. Mow your lawn? As in 'Desperate Housewives'? I think this
interview is more about his post-bypass male virility than anything else.....but.....

He ain't no spring chicken any more and she ain't Monica #2.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:01 AM
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16. no, from Kingpin (The Farrelly Brothers)
Randy Quaid's character Ishmael is going to get beat up by Skid Mark (Roger Clemens) because he's dancing with his girlfriend. Roy Munson (Woody Harrelson) goes over to save Ish, but once he sees how big Skid Mark and his friends are he yells: " You don't mow another man's lawn" and punches his friend out. :)
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:02 AM
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17. Phew! Had me worried for one moment....
xxx
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:42 AM
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20. Conservatives love to turn professional images of women into sexual images
and they belittle professional aspirations of women.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:54 AM
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22. Lighten up a little
I think the joke was about Clinton's reputation with women, rather than against Cherie. Cherie has no political aspirations. You can never take a joke when someone you support is involved, can you?

Remember than Cherie has already made public jokes about her sex life with Tony. I think she'd be able to laugh at this.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:10 PM
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23. Some of the posts in this thread remind me of
things Republicans said about Hillary when they wanted to rally the stay-at-home moms to vote Republican and be hostile to the idea of a professional woman.

I'm not saying that Clinton doesn't make it easy. Nonetheless, it's interesting how deeply ingrained these attitudes are that Republicans tap into.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:54 PM
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26. None of them remind me of that
because they're aimed aginst Bill Clinton. Cherie Blair is, of course, a highly successful professional woman, and Clinton is suggesting she throws that up to take on her husband's career instead, when she decided against that over 20 years ago.

Show me anything in this thread "hostile to the idea of a professional woman". "These attitudes"? What attitudes? Be specific.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 03:36 PM
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27. The Bill Clinton quote is NOT about sex. It's about her qualifications.
But, your post suggest that people read sex into it.

Even if your intention was to make a joke about BC, you're relying on a stereotype about women being sexually available to men. The joke is that when Tony's finished with her, it's Bill's turn. Hah, hah. Funny. Except that's an idea about women not belonging in the workplace that Republicans like to propogate.

Lewinsky notwithstanding, I don't think Bill or Tony believe that the proper role for woman is to make herself sexually available to men. If they did, they probably wouldn't have married the women they married.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 04:05 PM
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28. You need a sense of humour, AP
People do read sex into it - that's what they did on the radio programme this morning. This is a joke about Clinton being sexually available to women - making her "an irresistible offer" "when she wants a go". It's he who has the past in this respect, although Cherie has been happy to make jokes in a national newspaper about how "size matters", and that Tony was always "up to it" five times a night. You see, they do have a sense of humour.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 07:29 PM
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29. Whatever.
Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 07:41 PM by 1932
Is the context in that story whether she's qualified to be an MP?

My point is that the jokes come easy when they're about sexualizing women in the workplace. Everybody is ready to jump aboard with that imagery. I just thought I'd point out that conservatives tend to use those sterotypes. Can I point that out? You don't think that isn't true do you?

I wonder why liberals don't have their own set of stereoptypes and cliches they exploit to reveal the true nature of right wingers rather than use the conservative ones. Wasn't there a story about xenophobia or racism or royalty in the British press today?
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 08:55 PM
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30. Cherie did have political aspirations in the past.
She ran for parliament the same year that Tony first ran; he got in,
she didn't. She may give it a try again some time, who knows?



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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:37 AM
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11. I don't trust Bill Clinton and his ties to these people. He seems like he
is a member of the Neocons trying to steal the planet. What IS his role with them anyway? The moderator? Make a huge surplus for stealing?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:38 AM
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12. Wish I had the smary pic of these two from today's printed edition
of the ST.....

I think he's just pulling her leg ..... knowing that Poodle has no longer got one to stand on himself.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:41 AM
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14. What is it with the nepotism within politics?
husband, wife, sons, daughters -

Don't they get it- most of them are incompetent and their families and their values are not fit for public consumption.

This monarchy crap is starting to push my annoyance buttons.

:banghead:
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:18 AM
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18. Name recognition is the asylum of the uninformed voter.
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paranoid floyd Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:26 PM
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24. Nice one
It's all about the branding.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:30 PM
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25. that's been going on forever
just like any other "business"

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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:23 AM
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19. Cheri doesn't like
this bush administration....
Cherie accused of attacking Bush
Cherie Blair
Cherie Blair has been lecturing in the United States
Cherie Blair has been accused of criticising George W Bush's policies in a private address she gave during a United States lecture tour.

The prime minister's wife is said to have praised the Supreme Court for overruling the White House on the legal rights of Guantanamo Bay detainees.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3968843.stm

Sunday, 31 October, 2004, 01:31 GMT
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:43 AM
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21. I have tremendous admiration for Cherie Blair.
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