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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:29 AM
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Watch for women and child bombers, says Met
August 07, 2005

Watch for women and child bombers, says Met
David Leppard



TERRORISTS could be preparing to use women and children as suicide bombers in further attacks on trains and other soft targets in London, internal Scotland Yard documents have warned.

Official “stop and search” guidance just issued to thousands of Metropolitan police officers indicates that police fear the bombers may be planning to change their tactics.

“Terrorists will try to use our actions against us and will adapt their methods (use women or even children),” the document states.

The paper contains advice to officers exercising their powers under section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000. The rules govern the conduct of the 6,000 officers who have been deployed across the capital to stop a possible third terror cell following on from the July 7 atrocities and the failed July 21 attacks.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1724531,00.html

AND don't forget to search that dodgy-looking full nappy while you're at it, Inspector Plod!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:31 AM
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1. suspect EVERYONE!!!
that is why we DESPERATELY need a global POLICE STATE... it will make us all safer & feel better to boot ;->

peace
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:35 AM
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2. Man, they are cranking it up, aren't they?
So far they have left out donkey-cart bombs and dog-bombs though.
You can just smell the desperation.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:39 AM
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4. must be getting some push back on their new draconian laws
they desperately covet.

"Those who are willing to give up their freedom for a little temporary security, deserve neither freedom nor security." - Benjamin Franklin

peace
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:44 AM
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9. You're right there. It won't fly, apparently
Law may halt Blair’s war on extremism
Andrew Porter and Robert Winnett
TONY BLAIR’S proposed crackdown on Muslim extremism is said to be legally unsound and many of the proposals are likely to be blocked by the House of Lords.

The prime minister unveiled a package of new measures designed to stamp out home-grown terrorism last week.

They include powers to deport those inciting terrorism, closing down places of worship, a new offence of “glorifying terrorism” and stripping citizenship from extremists.

However, lawyers said yesterday the government would be unable to escape its obligations under the British Human Rights Act and the European human rights convention. Human rights law bars Britain from deporting people to countries where they may be tortured. It also protects the right to free speech.

(... continues ...)

From the same edition of the Sunday Times, at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724533,00.html
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:49 AM
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10. that is very good to hear - thanks for the link
:toast:

peace
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:03 AM
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13. "Likely to be blocked by the House of Lords," gee, I wonder who has
the stones in the US to block the right wing fundie wingnuts here.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:39 AM
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5. Just make clothing illegal.. We could see who was a bomber
and who was not :).. Peoplem like ME would never leave our houses:)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:40 AM
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6. there you go again...
giv'n them ideas :P

:hi:

peace
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:33 AM
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15. bush and his
nazi salute.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 01:28 PM
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19. New caption for that picture: I like it, but isn't the skirt a bit wide?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 01:45 PM
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20. And we should all be pre-emptivly locked up.
Better safe then sorry.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:37 AM
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3. right, so those who get off on feeling up / humiliating women or
have perversions towards little children now have free license to become security police--just like our airport "security" goons.....Can't allow the public any freedoms in our new world "demoracies," right? Especially women and children whose voices might be heard as they protest needless violence towards the innocents in Iraq by their own government...?
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:43 AM
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7. Ian Blair is a pinhead
The paper was released this weekend on the order of Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, in an effort to defuse the row over claims that police are singling out Asian and black men during street searches.

Defuse you say?
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:43 AM
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8. Terrorists' strategy?
The British cops may be reacting to the fact that these deplorable tatics, i.e., using women and children as sucide bombers, have been used in the Middle East, and is no longer beyond the pale. The terrorists are forcing our societies to make changes to our ways of lives. If we succumb, it is another victory for them. If we don't, than we have to be aware at the very least of how low the terrorists can go and of the consequences.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:52 AM
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11. "The terrorists are forcing our societies to make changes" - nonsense
we are responsible for any and all changes as well as our policies for motivating suicide bombers in the first bloody place.

peace
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:00 AM
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12. Hmmm you may be right
Yeah. That is another angle to look at it, of course. We are absolutely responsible for the choices that we make that will effect our lives. But these choices come from our reactions to what is happening to us. There is always a choice. We go one way or not, or some place else entirely. Right now, we are reacting for better or worse. Instead of singing to the choir here, we ought to take our view out into "freeper-land" so to speak; make sure that their support isn't just blind reaction either, you know? All I know is that the tactics mentioned in the original post has been used. The fear is that it will again be used - but no one is sure - it's just a fear. That's my pint if we succumb to that fear, well than what you and I have right now is over, no?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:20 AM
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14. It's just amazing how our rulers are willing to do absolutely anything
except stop their predation.

Of course, that's predator behavior all the world over--they always get angry when their prey resists.


"It is a typically Hohenzollern idea that a people which continues to defend itself after its standing army has been destroyed is committing a crime." (Marx, in a letter to Kugelmann)
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:34 AM
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16. What about white rich males in their fifties with umbrella and bowler
On their way to City? ;-)

I mean, if they REALLY use 'our actions against us and will adapt their methods', why not choose somebody NO ONE would suspect?

Check their briefcases, I'd say, there's no way of knowing who's terrorists these days. Next up is soccer moms and lanky redhead teenagers chewing gum while hanging out on street corners listening to punk music.

Everyone is guilty until proved innocent. We could start throwing people into lakes again?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:34 AM
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17. Next up...grey haired white ladies.....
That's why racial profiling is kind of silly.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 11:43 AM
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18. Great! Now we are gonna start shooting women and children
When is it going to end!?
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 01:46 PM
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21. Just five shots in the back of the head and we're SAFE BABY!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 02:37 PM
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22. Open season on anyone
perceived to be BROWN!!! Praise da Lawd and pass de ammunition!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 04:00 PM
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23. more scare tactics, Bush/Cheney & Bliar are the terrorists
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 04:08 PM
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24. in the U.S., we were warned to look out for men pretending to be
Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 04:08 PM by MisterP
pregnant women and people sweating, especially in the summer
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 04:28 PM
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25. Oh boy. Of course with their police being allowed to shoot
suspected bombers in the head-women and children, watch out.
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