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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:08 AM
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Many Ohioans stand behind Bush but some losing patience
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http://www.kitsapsun.com/bsun/nw_national/article/0,2403,BSUN_19093_3986384,00.html

Many Ohioans stand behind Bush but some losing patience

With U.S. flags flying from businesses, yellow ribbons wrapped around utility poles and "I love my country" scrawled on the side of a downtown building, this city about 20 miles north of Columbus is prepared to press on with the war in Iraq despite a number of casualties that hit home last week.

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"We got a few come in here, but they don't whisper too loudly against President Bush and his war policy because most of us are behind him solidly," said Vass, a career Navy man who participated in the 1962 missile crisis blockade of Cuba and later served in Vietnam.

Working at a downtown frame shop a few miles and a political universe away from the VFW, Linda Shearer's eyes filled with tears as she accused Bush of leading the American people into war with false claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and ties to al Qaeda. But Shearer stopped short of calling for an immediate troop withdrawal, saying she didn't know a good way out of the "mess."

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People aren't demanding the United States cut and run, but they're growing tired of Bush's "happy talk" and want to hear a plan for completing the war and withdrawing, Sean Kay, chairman of the international studies department at Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware, said.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:13 AM
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1. I suppose it will take $40 Trillion Dollars and 400,000 plus deaths
for them to look at Bush with raised eyebrows...
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:25 AM
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2. "I Love My Country"
...the next time I see that plastered anywhere, I don't think I'll be able to resist the urge to write under it:

"and I want it BACK!!!"

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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:14 AM
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5. I Hate the "Fight Terrorism" License Plates Here in VA
Like there's an alternative! "Nah, I'll just acquiesce to terrorism". Frikin bigoted "morans".
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:30 AM
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3. Dems in the VFW Need to Start Speaking Up
and if you're a Veteran who is a Democrat and you haven't joined the VFW, get your ass down to the local chapter.

We need to confront these people. If not, the MSM can always run to the VFW for a nice good "conservative, my country right or wrong" quote from the local folks.

Besides, it's cheap beer and good comeraderie.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:07 AM
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4. Maybe another $1.00 per gallon will
make you wonder about the two oil men in the WH.

You think...!!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:20 AM
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6. Geez, and the question used to be 'What's the matter with Kansas'.
For a state that's been hurt in every way possible by blivet's policicies (economic, war, and dirty politics) you have to wonder what the hell the problem could possibly be. I can't understand it.

I live in Nebraska. I understand these dolts. The civil rights and equal rights acts pushed this state into the arms of the republicans and that's where it's been ever since. These red neck yokels will never believe that anyone but a white man, acceptable religion being either protestent, lutheran, or methodist, should be in charge of the home, the company, the church, and the country. Everyone else just needs to get their asses in line and do what they're told.

I'd say that it's a midwest thing, but the south has the same problem.
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:37 PM
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10. RE: Nebraska
acmavm: How are those good ol' boys in Nebraska reacting to Mehlman's numerous appeals to black voters, that the Republican party is there for them too?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:00 PM
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18. Sorry for not answering sooner. Politics here are a strange, strange
thing. You hear the stories about Mehlman and his pandering to the black community, but I don't know how much good that it does. We have a situation here because big time politics is still a white man's game. Politics and the black community is as described in the Tina Turner song Steel Claw:

The politicians have forgotten this place
Except for a flying visit in a black Mercedes
On election time
They cross the line
And everybody runs to watch the pantomime

As soon as the election is over, so pretty much is the interest in the black community. And the poverty and crime in North Omaha. But the black community has historically had a low turn out during elections, which hurts them. But I think it's understandable. So many lies and broken promises. So little representation. I'd be more than a little hesitant to make the effort myself. So is the black community buying the republican spin? I don't know for sure, but I highly suspect that they view it as more of the same old shit from the same people who only care couple of years.

The Board of Education just released a report (I even worked on it as a temp so I can personally verify it's truth) where it shows that the success rate in schools is very definitely divided along economic lines. Whereas they don't say that the schools who score the lowest grades have a heavy population of black students, having lived here most of my life I can truthfully say that's true. The say it's schools with the most people living in poverty. Well, no kidding? But tour our beautiful (?) city. You'll find that there is a disproportionate number of black people in those neighborhoods.

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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 11:27 AM
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7. Anyone who stands solidly behind the village idiot
not only has blinders on, but they are in such total denial, I do not think we will ever be able to get them to see the truth. In their minds they have convinced themselves that * is who he says he is and he is doing the right thing. Some people cannot come to the realization that they have been decieved and they don't want to believe they could be that naive. It is much easier in their minds to deal with it that way. Have you ever had an argument with someone that you knew was wrong and you could clearly prove it to them and they just would not admit it? Well, that's the way it is today.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:11 PM
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8. Oh for crying out loud.
"We got a few come in here, but they don't whisper too loudly against President Bush and his war policy because most of us are behind him solidly," said Vass, a career Navy man who participated in the 1962 missile crisis blockade of Cuba and later served in Vietnam.

You dumb, dumb man. Look at where you live. Can't you see the state is almost decimated by this moron's economy? I don't get how military men can speak up for this thug! It's like they think that war = military support. No moron, war = military death...as in you and your kids and their kids dying! For no good reason. You can't name a good reason for this crap...without sounding like you're insane.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:33 PM
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9. Standing behind Bu$h a person could be defecated upon. He is
certainly full of enough shit.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 01:56 PM
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11. Ohioans
These people desreve whatever will come to them as a result of the Repug's policies which is going to bankrupt this nation.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:50 PM
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12. So "many" Ohions are masochists -- or just flat out stupid?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:43 PM
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15. Sometimes both
And some of them are my relatives!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:28 PM
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13. I live in NW Ohio ,sorry to say and...
I can honestly say I've never seen a dumber more complacent,holier than thou group of people in my life!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:16 PM
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17. Ever been to GA or SC????
Trust me...you sure don't have a lock on dumb, complacent or holier than thou folks! I'd bet we've gpt mpe than you do!!!
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:34 PM
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14. My state of Pennsylvania is tied with Ohio at 87
Not a distinction I wanted to see.

Two Pennsylvania Army National Guard soldiers were killed and three others injured when an improvised explosive device struck their convoy in Iraq, Gov. Ed Rendell announced Monday.

Sgt. Brahim Jeffcoat, 25, of Philadelphia, and Spec. Kurt Krout, 43, of Spinnerstown, Bucks County, died Saturday after the blast caused their vehicle to roll over in Samarra, about 60 miles north of Baghdad.

The weekend deaths raised the number of soldiers with Pennsylvania ties who have died as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom to at least 87, an Associated Press database shows.

Of the 1,821 fallen U.S. soldiers included in the AP database as of Friday, 84 were from Pennsylvania(now 87), ranking the state in the top 5, after California (200), Texas (162) and Ohio (87) and tied with New York (84).

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/local/12333121.htm
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:05 PM
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16. What the fuck would it take to convince those idiots that they have
been shit on? chimp personally raping their mothers in front of them?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 01:02 AM
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19. The ambrosia of armpits
When you're reduced to scrawling "I love my country" across the side of buildings, the disease is fairly well advanced.

A quote from Norman Mailer comes to mind:

"My feeling is that you're patriotic about America if you're obsessed with America because it's a democracy, and its obligation is to improve all the time, not to stop and take bows and smell its armpits and say 'Ambrosia!'"
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