2006 Need for High - Tech Workers Nearly Met (Gates is lying again

[wakeme2008]

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-H1-B-Visas.html

August 8, 2005
2006 Need for High - Tech Workers Nearly Met
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 8:41 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Employers are closing in on the limit for hiring foreign high-tech workers for jobs next year, roughly two months before the start of the 2006 fiscal year, an immigration official said Monday.

The number of applications for the jobs, many of them in high-tech companies, was nearly 52,000 as of Thursday, with 22,383 applications for H1-B visas approved and 29,556 pending.

''The cap will definitely be hit before Oct. 1, which was when it was hit last year,'' said Chris Bentley, spokesman for the agency that is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

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In April, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates, in a rare visit to Washington, lobbied the Bush administration to lift the limit on H1-B visas, saying anyone with good computer science training is not unemployed. Unions and other critics say the program allows businesses to fill jobs with cheaper foreign labor.

...more at link.....

Lots and lots of US workers out of jobs and Gates wants more cheap labor.

[stepnw1f]

1. His Father Seems Decent

Read his book. What happened to his som?

[Liberal Veteran]

2. Fuck him....Gates outsourced "high tech" to India...

..and me and 400 of my co-workers got a pink slip.

[nolabels]

3. and a lot of other companies are doing the same

The company I work does a whole crap load of accounting over there in india via computer terminal.

The help desk for computer terminal problems is even over there. When the figure out how to fix diesel trucks remote control from over there then I could be looking for a new employer too :scared:

[wakeme2008]

4. Right BUT

with the H1B being imported, he can force down the wages of his US workers. It is a win win for Gates and others like him.

[VegasWolf]

5. Err, exactly where is Bill's proof that anyone with a good computer

science background can find a job?

[Mairead]

12. Proof? He don' need no steenkeen' proof!

By definition, if you're unemployed you don't have good computer skills!

[Doremus]

6. How long will it take the brainiacs to realize that people need decent

wages to BUY THEIR F'ING PRODUCTS????

Ah, but we don't think that far ahead. We only care what the next quarterly report says and the future be damned. :eyes:

Scary part is this outsourcing to cheap labor is affecting security-sensitive industries as well. I have a customer who used to own a mapping company where he would be given aerial images and would then create topographical maps showing precise coordinates, building heights, volume, etc. Pre-9/11, this work was required to be performed in the states. NOT ANYMORE. Inexpensive Indians and Pakistanis are making those maps now. Don't you feel more secure knowing that the foreign mapmakers can probably make more selling copies of their maps than they get in their paychecks for a whole month?

This is the extent of the shortsightedness and greed we're dealing with. :mad:

[lovuian]

7. I think Gates is seeing war is ahead in the future and

that labor market is going to be closed!!!

[charlie]

8. If that's the case

then it's odd that he's copacetic about outsourcing critical work to the one place on earth that recently experienced a hot nuclear standoff.

[NeoConsSuck]

9. Whatsa matter, Bill?

Finding out that outsourcing doesn't solve all your shareholder's complaints? Oh, those hidden costs and delays!

If only those goddamn Americans would work 80 hours a week for third world wages, you wouldn't have to import third world programmers.

Corporate America shares your grief. My opinion? You can go fuck yourself.

[bermudat]

10. Greed.

How much more dineros does Bill Gates need that he has to screw rank and file American workers.

[Maple]

11. You all have Masters and PhDs

in math and science??

Because THAT is what they're looking for.

[Mairead]

13. With 25 years in the industry at every level from peon to boss,

I can tell you that they neither need nor are looking for masters and docs. What they're looking for is YOUNG. Their ideal is a 25yo White boy who's willing to work 18 hours a day, seven days a week and more when there's a crunch, which there is routinely because project schedules are always unrealistic because they're driven by marketing.

[Maple]

14. What they're looking for is

Masters and PhDs in math and science.

The rest is personal political agenda stuff...which won't survive in a globalizing world.

[Mairead]

17. Sorry, but you badly need to check your facts.

[Virginian]

15. You've got that right. Wasn't that once called Age Discrimination

Gates isn't the only one. Ellison is holding Oracle classes in India at $50 a week and in the US at $500 a week. The Cost of living isn't 10 times greater in the US, but the cost of Oracle training is.

I was replaced by an H1-B Indian male half my age in a job that should have required a security clearance.

[high density]

16. Most of the jobs I see want experience over education

I'm a person who has "good computer science training" yet I can't find a job in the field because I have no work experience. Even Microsoft's website has hundreds of software development jobs listed but I can't find even one that is geared toward entry level candidates.

[Mairead]

18. That's because they no longer need to 'grow their own'

They can select, for entry level jobs, engineers with anything up to 5 or today even 10 years of experience.

Back when I was a hiring manager, my responsibility included bringing in 2-3 new grads every year and pairing them up with experienced engineers, where they'd stay for a year or two 'learning the trade' before moving on. Everyone understood that that was something we did for the profession and the industry as a whole. I'd be surprised if any company's still doing that.

[area51]

19. tax breaks for corp.

I'd love to see all tax breaks ended for corporations which offshore or inshore American jobs. Nazi companies love the perks of getting the big tax breaks in this country while fscking over American workers.