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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:45 AM
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Gov.-Elect May Seek a Cap on Spending
Schwarzenegger's team is considering putting the idea to voters. A bond issue to pay off part of the deficit may reach the ballot too.

Fresh from their victory in the recall election, advisors to Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger are considering asking voters next fall to approve a sweeping constitutional amendment to limit state spending.

The governor-elect also may ask California voters to weigh in on whether the state should sell $10.7 billion in bonds to pay off part of the budget deficit over a period of years.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-transition16oct16,1,166960.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:52 AM
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1. A constitutional amendment to limit spending
sounds like a bad idea. Obviously, Swarzenegger doesn't want to make the tough choices, so the amendment proposal is nothing more than a political gimmick.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:36 AM
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3. Obviously he KNOWS he cannot pass his draconian policies
thr ough traditional channels so he will bring it to the idiots who elected him who seem to want low college fees, paved roads, less traffic congestion, enough police and don't want to pay for it.

Look for a ballot initiative to approve Las Vegas Casinos too.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 02:25 PM
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8. Yeah, what a STUPID idea.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 02:48 PM by Loyal
Letting the people vote on issues is SO stupid, NSMA. The politicians know better than them. The fact is, Arnold won. The people in California gave the two prominent Republicans in the race more votes combined than Bustamante won. We can all say that the recall was immoral, but it WAS legal. If Ahhnold wants to take his case to the people at the voting booth, then he has every right to. Calling the people of California idiots for voting for Arnold is a slap in the face at America. It's why everyone thinks of liberal Democrats as elitists. You're helping to contribute to that notion, NSMA, and it makes me sick, frankly.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 03:12 PM
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9. Perhaps I should have stated that although I have no doubt that voters are
rocket scientists, voting by ballot intitiative is one of the most expensive and least effective means of governing since the public rarely reads the fine print of said intitiatives which often end up in the courts at a huge expense to taxpayers because many aspects of ballot intitiatves are flat out unconstitutional and are often very fiscally irresponsible or create unintended consequences.

He has every right to take his case to people at the voting booth no matter how little they know of the actual facts surrounding the budget, costs, and the like. I assume that you think people who have never opened their check book are perfectly capable of balancing it as well.

Get as sick as you want...just don't expect any services to be there to quell your illness since the infrastructure for those services can't be funded.

There is NOTHING MORE ELITE than using public policy and a slick AD CAMPAIGN to get people to fuck themselves over.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:25 PM
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10. Well
"There is NOTHING MORE ELITE than using public policy and a slick AD CAMPAIGN to get people to fuck themselves over."

That's not "elite." If that is what he really did then it is nothing short of brilliant. I don't think that's what he did. I think the people in California were just angry and directed all of their blame at Davis.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 09:52 AM
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2. Which debt?
The $9 BILLION that Enron et al STOLE from us? -- that YOU just want us to WRITE OFF two thirds of, Arnie?

:grr:

So now you want the taxpayers to support borrowing money to cover that ripoff, which will just delay and compound the debt.

This is what the Rethuglicans call "fiscal responsibility"?!?

:nuke:
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:43 AM
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5. retardicans
are no l;onger the party of fiscal responibility. the Clenis™ made the hard choices. the Dems voted to help him and lost the house because of it. the retardican party has been stolen too.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:20 AM
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6. when Davis talked bonds it was recall time
Arnie talks bonds and it better than sliced bread, WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 10:39 AM
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4. Spending cap, good. Bond, bad.
The spending cap would easily pass, the bond doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

Arnold is going to have to face up to facts and make some extremely tough choices in how to eliminate the deficit.

I would like to be there to see the look on his face when he's told by his Repug handlers the after-school programs he championed have to be cut.

Arnold will age 20 years in that one brief moment. And his election chances will go straight down the toilet.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-03 11:24 AM
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7. already constitutional req. to balance the budget!!! so what the fuck
is he talking about, an amendment that gets rid of government programs he doesn't like and chooses to put into the initiative

:kick:
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