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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:41 PM
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Pataki Vetoes Bill to Fund School Nurses in Rochester, Other Cities
Pataki vetoes bill to fund school nurses in Rochester, other cities

By CARA MATTHEWS
Gannett News Service

ALBANY — A Rochester lawmaker Wednesday expressed outrage at the veto by Gov. George Pataki of a bill that would have provided millions of state dollars to pay for school nurses in Rochester and other large cities.

“This veto is an outrage,” Assembly Member David Gantt said in a statement. “It is not only a huge loss for city children who rely on these services, it will also lead the way to a public-health crisis, as immunization records go unchecked and children become at risk for infections and serious illnesses.”

The Legislature earlier this year passed a bill that called for the state to pick up 70 percent of the tab for school nurses in Buffalo, Rochester, Yonkers and Syracuse. That would amount to more than $3 million in Rochester alone.

But in his veto message, Pataki said the way the bill called for the money to get to the cities — through the Board of Cooperative Educational Services, or BOCES, was not the way to do it since the city districts don't belong to those organizations. BOCES are made up of smaller districts.

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050811/NEWS01/508110356/1002/NEWS01
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:49 PM
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1. Yeah, they're going batshit here in Rochester.........
with school starting is a few weeks and all. The community leaders say there will be nurses on duty for the start of the school year anyway.
Pa-ka-ki is trying to re-make himself into a tough, heartless conservative for his (can you believe this?) upcoming Presidential bid! :rofl:
He has one chance, in my opinion. That being the same chance of a snowball surviving in hell. ;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:50 PM
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2. So what was the Jerk pataki's real
reason for vetoing the bill?

And I hope the Nurses in school are aware of this and anyone else who cares about the future of nurses in this state under the skincrawling pataki.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 03:21 PM
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3. $350 Billion. Would that help? Taxcuts for the rich, by bush.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 03:34 PM by oscar111
----The nurse cuts are just some of the results from bush's taxcuts for the rich, totalling 350 Billion. And other GOP taxcuts at the state and local level.
=======================

GENERAL PATTERN - MEMORIZE THIS:

A DU poster said it all --

"The GOP gets in , cuts taxes and services and destroys our society. In the ruins, folks get it slowly together and elect democrats. The democrats have to raise taxes to repair the damage to people and infrastructure.

Then the GOP starts screaming at the top of their lungs "Cut taxes, Cut taxes" and keep screaming for twenty years. By then, people have forgotten how horrid the GOP was, and elect the GOP again.

This cycle repeats over and over".

PS another pattern -- the GOP always axes great bills by finding some little corner of it to object to. Real reason is usually part of the taxcuts-for -the-rich drive.

ps #2. about the 2O year pattern again... note, how it was only 23 years from the Crash in '29, to electing a GOP again. People even forgot the Great Depression, 11 years after it ended.

NOTE: stocks did not recover their original price from '29 to '55. 26 years. And bush wants to put your retirement from ss , into a plan {Private Accounts} that can slump 26 years. hmmmmmmm.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:33 PM
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4. Thanks, oscar!
Since we're on to them..this should be the mantra..

The gop cut the taxes to destroy our Country and the Dems have to raise them to get our Country back on the right track and then we can think about ways to lower them again.


The gop are dirty low down and care nothing about America! Plus they have Shit for brains.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:15 PM
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5. Hi, thanks! and COMPARISONS link
always good to get some kind words!

Here is a landmark compilation for you to dig into showing some of our lame health standing in the world:

A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE US AND OTHER RICH NATIONS

http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/8Comparison.htm Changed:9:49 PM on Sunday, April 4, 1999
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:23 PM
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6. Thanks for the link!
I have duly bookmarked it.

It's amazing how Americans take our way of life for granted. I'd guess that a fair number of people are so fearful of change, so supicious of any idea that serves the community as much as the individual, and so brainwashed by the "cut taxes" mantra that they wouldn't have a clue how much they are being screwed over.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:36 PM
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7. A nurse is sometimes the first line of defense
for preventing an outbreak of chicken pox or measles or other infectious diseases amongst children, especially in the poorer schools. Alot of children with poorer parents don't get the supervision of their health from the parents if they are working odd shifts or multiple jobs.

School nurses can also help teach parents and children how to better protect themselves from illness and injury. Cutting funding for these jobs at the last second is asking for ten times the trouble as more kids show up sicker than ever in emergency departments.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 08:42 PM
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8. In the meantime
while we're fighting the lack of funding for school nurses, perhaps we need to start organizing "internships" for local nursing students at public schools. The nursing students get experience, and the schools get another line of defense. It ain't the same thing, but better than nothing.

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:32 PM
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9. It's a good idea if there are nursing schools close enough.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 09:33 PM by Ilsa
Where I grew up, there wasn't a nursing school within 90 miles. Of course, that was Texas. There are likely to be closer nursing school within NY, aren't there?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 09:56 PM
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10. Rochester has an excellent medical school at U of R and used to
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 09:59 PM by geckosfeet
have a nursing school affiliated with Highland Hospital.

edit: removed excess verbosity
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:56 AM
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11. Poverty drives parents crazy - literally {llsa, read this}
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 11:58 AM by oscar111
another reason nurses are needed in poor areas, is that such parents sometimes are too frazzled by poverty to look after the kid properly.

a study found that the hi rate of insanity and milder disfunctionalism,

among poor folks,

is due half to "roll downs" - wealthier folks go crazy and lose income

and due half to the harsh conditions of poverty literally driving those born in it, driving them nuts. Or disfunctional.

Conditions not reported on MSM, are -- no access to dr or lawyer.. amazing ripoff tricks that stores in poor areas play {like selling used as new}... half policed and unpoliced areas ... hi density of criminals.. ll's ruling everyone, and many landlords really bad..

These things frazzle the nerves of the poor, leaving them unable to function well as parents. So Nurses needed.
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