CBS: Bush Moved, Not Swayed By GI's Mom (Bush comments)

[truthpusher]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/11/politics/main771225.shtml

Bush Moved, Not Swayed By GI's Mom
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CRAWFORD, Texas, Aug. 11, 2005
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President Bush said Thursday he understands and respects the views of anti-war advocates like a California mother camped outside his Texas ranch to mourn her soldier son fallen in Iraq, but that it would be a mistake to bring U.S. troops home now.

"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place," Mr. Bush said.

"I also have heard the voices of those saying: Pull out now," he said. "And I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

Immediate withdrawal "would send a terrible signal to the enemy."

Cindy Sheehan has been camped along a road near Mr. Bush's ranch since Saturday, asking to talk to the president about her son Casey and vowing to remain until his Texas vacation ends later this month. Casey was killed five days after he arrived in Iraq last year. He was 24.

"I sympathize with Mrs. Sheehan," Mr. Bush said. "She feels strongly about her position, and she has every right in the world to say what she believes. This is America. She has a right to her position, and I thought long and hard about her position. I've heard her position from others, which is: Get out of Iraq now. And it would be a mistake for the security of this country and the ability to lay the foundations for peace in the long run if we were to do so."

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complete story: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/11/politics/main771225.shtml

[MinneapolisMatt]

1. Shut up, Bush.

You are a LIAR.

- Matt

[Skidmore]

20. A huge crowd in DC facing the WH

and chanting "Liar" in unison, or "Shut up" or "Enough" is my fantasy. A roar...

[Nightjock]

39. It will happen on September 24th

and I will be there too.

[Maggie_May]

52. Bush is a coward

He is so afraid of Cindy. They call this man a commander and chief. Hey anyone remember the last time he went to Iraq?

[Pithy Cherub]

66. Yes, there was a plastic turkey involved...

[Richardo]

2. That's *not* her position, twit.

Her position is: "Tell me to my face why my son died. And stop invoking his name to send others to die."

"Thought long and hard", my ass.

[KyndCulture]

4. Thought long and hard? That would kill him.

[ashling]

36. But it's hard work

:sarcasm:

[onehandle]

10. Wrong.

The stenographers have delivered his words through MSM.

As he has done, so has she said.

The President has spoken.

[Lorien]

17. * AND the media are avoiding her question

"for what "noble cause" did my son die"? And don't use "freedom" in the answer. :grr:

[cliss]

45. Yes, they don't answer that.

But -- I heard Cindy Sheehan's voice on the radio. It was just some regular radio station. I heard her say, "I would like the president to tell me to my face why my son died. And don't lie to me".

It was so dramatic, it just took my breath away. Here's SOMEONE, FOR THE FIRST TIME, actually saying these words. It's needed to be said for a long time.

She did it. I just couldn't believe they let those words be said over the radio waves. Definitely not a good sign, believe me.

[driver8]

18. Yeah, he thought about it in the shower between his golf game and

cocktail hour...

Fuck you Bush, you lying sack of shit!

[sinkingfeeling]

3. I notice that he says, "anguish that some feel about the death", not

that he has any anguish.

[kskiska]

38. "the death"

How cold and impersonal.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Naw, it's just keeping him busy all day and night!

Notice how he snapped right to her name this morning?

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. For the time it took him to make this idiotic statement

He could have driven down the road in his pickup truck and given Cindy 5 minutes and this would all be over.

I hear there's a village looking for it's coward in Texas.

[rodeodance]

11. But I am the CIC--I win-you lose (my imaginary bush respons).

......"I sympathize with Mrs. Sheehan," Mr. Bush said.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. Then my retort would be

You said you're the CIC? What is that supposed to stand for, Coward in Crawford?

[LiberalinNC]

7. The only possible "movement" he had today was a Bowel movement!

He's such a Piece of trash!

[TahitiNut]

42. Yep. "Bush moved" - an experience the rest of us call a Bowel Movement

It's a typical malapropism for the Fascist Fart.

[hippiegranny]

8. "I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place,

that SOME feel? about the "death that takes place?" oh my god, that fucking twerp makes my blood boil!

[Kurovski]

15. Kind of an admission that he himself is unmoved.

Good catch.

[noonriser]

82. He's a sociopath.

No doubt about it. He is unmoved because he's totally disassociated from any feelings for others.

:mad: :mad:

[grytpype]

30. Could this be more vague?

"The death that takes place," not "the death I caused with my policy." He's talking like it's a natural disaster. And "some people" are anguished about it, who are those people and what is wrong with them?

[Fire Walk With Me]

61. Yep. Removes responsibility.

It's just happening, no one is making it happen.

[jayctravis]

53. It's actually probably an honest statement.

I doubt Bush has had anything remotely close to the personal tragedy that Ms. Sheehan has experienced. Both of his parents are alive and in good health. He has two beautiful living daughters. Anything in his life that he fucked up or went wrong was taken care of.

He honestly could not give a flying swat about her. He sincerely has nothing to compare her experience to.

Bush is not a man of the People. At least not the ones that I know.

[Cha]

9. bush is Fulla Shyte so he

he needs to be Moved!

[kestrel91316]

83. More like a case of "diarrhea of the mouth and ................

constipation of the brain" as one of my more brazen grade-school teachers used to say in referring to lazy, dumb kids.

[Kurovski]

12. Go tell it to Cindy Sheehan, Mr President.

Personally, I'm sick of your bullshit.

[Dudley_DUright]

13. A man with no empathy cannot understand

the anguish of someone like Cindy Sheehan. Bush is just mouthing words his spin doctors are telling him to say.

[ahem]

14. This really speaks to Cindy's power!

He knows she's a threat to him--there's no other reason for him to comment on this. He prefers to ignore his critics. He can't ignore her!

Go Cindy!!!

[Bumblebee]

21. Just look at the letters section of the NYT yesterday and today

and you know she is a threat. Letters apparently keep pouring in. I do understand that it is more effective when they are in the Dallas Morning News or Houston Chronicle but it is still impressive that they had such large selections, running 5 to 1 in her favor and against Bush, for two days in a row.

[lpbk2713]

16. Here's another Boosh comment .....

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[Karenina]

29. And another...

[tex-wyo-dem]

19. Georgie, you are a pathetic person, much less a pResident...

You don't even bother to cry crocodile tears while your crony war-profiteering comrades are raking in the dough with the blood of tens-of-thousands of Iraqis and 1800+ of our own.

All based on lies...

You are pathetic...

[kwyjibo]

23. Why should we care what the Iraqis think? Our kids are dying.

what's more important?

[Hegemony Cricket]

24. "I also have heard the voices of those saying: Pull out now,"

Dear George,

Try not to confuse foggy memories of date rape with the war in Iraq.

Thank You,

HC

[MrBenchley]

25. WEIRD fucking statement by pResident Turd....

"I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/11/national/w103700D64.DTL

a) He's also making it clear that some of his circle DON'T give a rats' ass how many people get killed; and

b) the "death that takes place" does so because he can't answer Cindy's question, because he doesn't give the troops the armor and other supplies they need, and because he's an incompetent and corrupt ignoramus more interested in filling his cronies' pockets than anything else.

[KansDem]

26. So how does CBS or AP know Bush was "moved?"

I don't read anything that says that to me. The headline should have read "Bush mouths words of advisers." Now that would be closer to what was actually written.

[Bumblebee]

32. He stumbled -- and we know he is so good with words that

when he stumbles that must mean he is emotionally moved to the point of choking...

[KansDem]

34. Oh, I see. He must find eating pretzels to be a "moving experience"

*GAG**cough*cough**hack**cough*--"I was moved by that last pretzel!" ;)

[Bumblebee]

43. Exactly! He is just one emotional fella.

[Blackthorn]

55. Yeah, moved...TO THE FLOOR. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

27. About as sickening a comment as expected.

I swear he thinks he's playing a video game. His incompetence is mind staggering.

[Barrett808]

28. New photos of Camp Casey posted

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/32news14.htm

CROSSES TO HONOR THE FALLEN are being placed at Camp Casey in Crawford. Veterans For Peace (Los Angeles) donated 1,000 crosses to Cindy Sheehan and her protest against the war in Iraq in support.
—Iconoclast Photo By Deborah Mathews

[Barkley]

71. I'm so proud of Vets for Peace. I love you!

That picture made my day.
Thank you.
I love you.

[Hobarticus]

31. WHOSE enemy?

The same Iraqi enemy that had WMDs?

The same Iraqi enemy that was involved in 9/11?

The same Iraqi enemy that would greet us as liberators?

Shut up. She's got bigger stones than you, cowboy. Go and talk to the woman. Act like an adult male of the species, for once.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

40. that last sentence asks the impossible

i mean really, pure fantasy

:)

[Wizard777]

33. There are tens of Billions of dollars at stake here.

Bush & Cheney can't let that slip through their fingers. We can't allow the enemy to see us learning from out mistakes. We need to do more of the same and expect different results. It a time tested Republican method.

We need to get rid of Bush & Cheney. Then we can set to befriending those enemies of the Bush administrations creation. This is the current problem facing our military in Iraq. Enemy's can't work together. But there is little if nothing friends can't accomplish together. Bush only understands friendship at gun point. I think if we sacked and canned this adminstration. Iraq would become a whole new world. I really truely believe the hostility America has encountered from the middle east since Bush II's 2000, ahem, Election. Is due to the Bush Families Corporate shells constantly kicking sand in there faces and them dropping a few bombs on them when they complain. America is walking the world with a target painted on our asses. The targets name is Bush. I think it's really that simple. If we toss Bush several billion problems will leave with him.

[speedoo]

35. "Moved" my ass.

The Crawford Coward has never been moved in his entire, abysmal life.

How do I know this? I just do.

[WinkyDink]

64. exactly

Psychopaths cannot be "moved".
End. Of. Story.

[LibDemAlways]

37. "about the death that takes place"

How awkward is that? The shithead uses the passive tense to try and gloss over his culpability in the deaths of over 1800 American soldiers, hundreds more "coalition" forces and contractors, and God only knows how many Iraqis -- not to mention the hundreds of thousands wounded and maimed.

The man's hands are soaked in blood and he's spouting platitudes about "the enemy." Hey, fuckwad, you're the enemy.

[EST]

41. "Long and hard" is referring to who all

he's going to fuck next, and how.

[VegasWolf]

44. When Bush says he's "moved", do ya think he is taking about his bowels? nt

[gulliver]

46. Uses her name. Won't say anything to her face. What a mensch.

He wouldn't dare try to say what he said to her face. That's why he has to do it outside her presence. He should either face her or not. He can't just walk out in front of a bunch of cameras and misstate her opinion. Any right thinking person knows that is low.

[area51]

47. "I understand the anguish that some feel...."

G. War Criminal Bush said:

"I understand the anguish that some feel...."

Bush, you don't understand JACK SHIT. You have no empathy for anyone but your own sorry ass.

[Fire Walk With Me]

48. If that "moves" Bush, this should send him into hysteria

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4143970.stm

He cares so much, it moves ME.

[Rose Siding]

49. Was that his "I feel you pain" speech?

Thought he wasn't into that.

[VegasWolf]

51. Doesn't the ability to feel other's pain not work on sociopaths? nt

[Fire Walk With Me]

54. Sociopaths know a good tool when they see it and use it often.

Some people might imagine that they are telling the truth, when they push certain emotional buttons.

They don't have to understand it to make use of it to deceive others.

[VegasWolf]

58. Interesting. have you ever heard of any correlation studies between

sociopathic behavior and IQ? Just curious.

[Fire Walk With Me]

62. Not so as to quote anything, no.

BushCo happen to make my physically ill, so I know that I have feelings :-)

[DawgHouse]

50. He thinks about it every day!!!!! n/t

[Gregorian]

56. Anyone who could mock Karla Faye Tucker, has no heart to be moved.

I know evil when I smell it.


Bush stinks.

[VegasWolf]

57. How appropriate, Bush is fiddling while Rome is burning. Who would

have thought that we would see it first hand.

[Evergreen Emerald]

59. Blah blah blah

fucking insincere blah. It must be hard work pretending to feel.

[VegasWolf]

60. It is, it's HARD, HARD work, Hard work. nt

[Walt Starr]

63. The video really captures the mindset of the giggling murderer

He was laughing at a grieving gold star mom all the way trough his answering of the question.

Watch the video to get the REAL mindset of this psychopath.

[SeanQuinn]

65. If Bush was so moved, then why doesn't * talk to her?

Come on. Gain up courage, Mr. Silver Spoon.

[despairing optimist]

68. IMHO, neither he nor his inner circle of sycophants . . .

actually see the absurdity of juxtaposing TV images of Cindy Sheehan making her simple request and comments with those of Bush discussing her in the distant, condescending, know-it-all style that he and his friends take for a presidential bearing.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm enjoying the Bush meltdown immensely. Whatever anyone thinks of heartland Americans, red or blue, they generally do have hearts, and this display by their leader must be galling to them.

The question you ask must be on a few hundred million pairs of lips, and the Crawford White House just isn't wired for sound.

[despairing optimist]

67. Cindy is the perfect foil to Bush and his cohorts

The more he stays in character, the worse it will get for him. Playing the imperial president who answers to no one and distances himself from the immediacy of the suffering he causes--with comments like "the death that takes place," as if crash dummies are hitting concrete walls--prove the points that his critics have been making for years. Only the tone-deaf, brain-dead, heartless, and diehard know-nothings will make any effort to defend him now. CNN could well go broke risking more Robert Novak moments with RW apologists in real-time duels with their critics. Those FCC fines for on-air obscenities can pile up fast.

There may soon be some programming on cable that will tempt me back.

[JoMama49]

69. whoever is advising chimpy on this is way stooopid.....

all they had to do was meet with Cindy last weekend - invite her in for tea, or just drive up in the black limo and open the door to chat -- shrubby and pickles could have expressed their sincere sympathy and chatted about absolutely nothing for a few minutes, and that would have been the end of it --- but noooooooo, they're too stoopid for that, i guess -- or he really is more chickenshit than i thot!

[despairing optimist]

72. I agree, and isn't it wonderful?

I'm no pyromaniac, but I am enjoying the Bush administration bonfire. It's better than falling off a mountain bike or a Segway.

[Hekate]

85. He fails every test: Noblesse oblige, Southern Gent, Christian...

...Compassionate conservative.

He could have played this so many ways and looked like a human being:

1. Royalty would have sent out a basket of food and cool water for the poor suffering subject who lost her son in the king's war. Even if the king or duke or whoever didn't come out of his castle, the gesture would have been sympathetic. Bush fails the test of noblesse oblige.

2. A true Southern Gentleman (and I think some Texans like to be courtly to their women even if not in the Deep South style) would have invited her to the front porch for a pitcher of iced tea, at the very least. Bush fails the test of traditional good manners to women.

3. A good neighbor would have walked down to the end of his driveway to hear her out. He's not really a good neighbor, is he?

4. A Christian would have felt her pain as his own and would have acted accordingly. Wouldn't have laughed at Karla Faye Tucker for saying she was born-again, either, but that just goes to character.

5. A Compassionate Conservative -- oh, please, now I'm going to hurt myself laughing. A CC would point out that this is an all-volunteer army and the bereaved should just take their lumps and stop bellyaching.

Bush just fails and fails to get humanity, or even good manners, and so do his handlers.

The only thing I find surprising is how naked this failure is. I thought the cabal was cunning enough to at least try to fake interest in Cindy Sheehan's plight in an effort to defuse the situation.

Instead they have tried to ignore her, then smear her. But a lot of the media has caught on to this tactic ('bout time) and a lot of people are noticing how tone-deaf the Bushco statements continue to be. And more people are showing up in Crawford all the time.

Not good for Bushie, not good at all.

Hekate

[sakabatou]

70. There is no way Bush can be moved by tears

He's freakin' sociopath.

[pacalo]

73. He's "moved" when faced by the press...

Behind the scenes, he's responsible for the harassment by the police & the Secret Service. Nor does he tell the press about the ridiculous, nonsensical rules, such as walking in the fire ant infested ditch rather than on the isolated road, designed to discourage Mrs. Sheehan.

"Moved." Right.

[DoYouEverWonder]

74. Protesters Outside, Bush Toes Iraq Line (Headline on Yahoo!)

August 11, 2005

CRAWFORD, Texas -
President Bush said Thursday he sympathizes with war protesters like the mother camped outside his Texas ranch demanding answers for her solider-son's death, but he said he believes it would be a mistake to bring U.S. troops home now.

Bush said he had "heard the voices of those saying, `Pull out now.'" And he said, "I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

"Pulling the troops out would send a terrible signal to the enemy," the president told reporters between meetings with his military and foreign affairs advisers.

Outside his sprawling ranch, California mother Cindy Sheehan sat on the road with a growing group of war protesters who have pitched tents in shallow ditches. Sheehan's son, Casey, was killed five days after he arrived in Iraq last year at age 24.

http://news.yahoo.com/

[Mikimouse]

75. Hmmmm, Sprawling Ranch is it?

My bullshitometer just pegged.

[ixion]

76. Yeah, I got a blip off that, too

:wtf:

[txindy]

81. Nedra Pickler wrote that

Yet another White House 'stenographer'. :eyes:

[Starone]

77. So the Commander in Grief is saying

signals are much more important than American lives? I strongly disagree, Mr. President. Cindy Sheehan is the true leader of the people.

[Sub Atomic]

78. you know what, mister president.

with comments like this from you and your ilk regarding the lives of those of whom you have sent off to die for your war of choice, you are essentially saying that you are not pro-life as you proclaim to be.

So what does that make those who follow you? Idiots or Hypocrites?



"I've thought about their cry and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree."

[despairing optimist]

79. Bush "heard the voices saying, Pull out now," but not Cindy's voice

challenging him to explain the noble cause that Casey died for. The gap between those comments is breathtaking, and Bush's arrogance and silence devastating. For once he can't just shout "Bring it on," and then run away. He can't hide anymore. MSM smells blood in the water, from the Plame grand jury to the AIPAC scandal to the Terri Schiavo fiasco and now Cindy Sheehan's simple request for an audience.

"I've got political capital, and I intend to spend it." Bring it on, guy. Great work.

[Straight Shooter]

80. Yeah, bush, whatever you do, don't signal that we care about the troops.

Don't you dare give people the idea that we care about those men and women and we don't want anymore of them to die or be maimed for your bullsh*t pack of lies. Instead, absolutely, just keep on keepin' on with STUPID REMARKS like "Bring 'em on." :sarcasm:

What a frickin' useless clueless idiot.

[lonestarnot]

84. Bushitler you truly are an asswipe!

[Mad_Dem_X]

86. He has no empathy, not a shred of compassion

"Moved" - yeah, right. :grr: