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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:43 PM
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Ride With Armstrong Among Bush's Plans
WACO, Texas (AP) - President Bush is getting plenty of bike time during his ranch vacation and next week he even gets to hit the trails with seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong.

Armstrong told ABC's ``This Week'' on Sunday that he'll travel to Crawford, Texas, next Saturday to ride mountain bikes with the president around Bush's ranch.

``It's a dream scenario for me,'' Armstrong said. ``Now that President Bush doesn't run anymore, he rides his mountain bike fanatically. People wonder why he's stays at the ranch so long, it might be the mountain bike trails.''

It also must be a dream scenario for Bush to ride with Armstrong, a fellow Texan and cancer survivor who last month won his most recent Tour de France. Bush has become an avid biker in the last couple of years, after a knee injury forced him to give up his jogging routine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5209973,00.html
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:47 PM
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1. Lance you better put a stick in his ....
spokes.

Good thing * has time to go mountain biking. BTW 7 dead today.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:40 PM
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29. Nah all he has to do is take him through a tough part of the course
Gravity will dod the rest
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:47 PM
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2. Anybody who would come to the ranch to entertain the
emperor while Cindy Sheehan is stuck out in the ditch is pretty much a scab. I'm a biker and fan of Armstrong, but this stinks.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:08 PM
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11. Lance said on This Week this morning that he is anti-Iraq war...
if that helps any. He says that he is friends with beelzebush, but if beelzebulb wants to know where he stands on Iraq he'll tell him.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:39 PM
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17. Hopefully, he stops and talks to Cindy. That would be nice.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:23 PM
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35. That's just what I was thinking.
It *would* be great if Armstrong stopped by to see Cindy before or after his ride w/ Bush.
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BlueStatesForever Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:31 PM
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31. Toby Keith also has doubts about the Iraq War
But he's as pro-Bush as he can be!

You don't believe me? Here's a link: http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/20030926toby0926fnp5.asp

My point is that even though Mr. Armstrong disagrees with Bush "on just about everything," he still may very well be a Bush supporter. Even Kerry wonders about him:

"SAINT-ETIENNE, France --Sen. John Kerry thinks Lance Armstrong would make a terrific politician -- but fears he'd be running for the other party."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2005/07/24/kerry_sees_armstrong_as_a_politician/.

I was completely FLAMED over on DailyKos for saying that Mr. Armstrong is a Republican, so I won't say so here. Instead, I'll say he's a moderate who is completely lacking in principles. It's not that he's visiting a Republican, it's that he's visiting THAT Republican. Besides that, as another poster says, he's a SCAB, scabbing the Cindy line. This is about a Bush photo op to take Cindy's name off the front page of the newspaper.

If Mr. Armstrong cared about his country, he would take his bully pulpit and use it to snub the guy who got us into this murderous mess in Iraq. Yes, Mr Armstrong supports cancer research, but don't we all, and if we all were famous and could raise 9 million dollars to support it, wouldn't we? Especially if we were cancer survivors ourselves??

The notion that Armstrong visiting Bush to get support for cancer research is a bit naive. Bush would only give money to cancer research if he or his oil buddies could benefit. Otherwise, forget it. And I think Mr. Armstrong knows about this going in.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:48 PM
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40. If Halliburton did cancer research
They would have BILLIONS and BILLIONS from the chimp and cheney
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:16 PM
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65. I can only imagine what Sheryl
Crow is thinking about Lance's little ride with the Gargoyle.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:38 PM
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16. I haven't been a fan of Armstrong ...
... since he left his wife. He's a self-centered asshat. Yeah, he can ride the hell of of a bicycle, but so the fuck what?
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oostevo Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:27 PM
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30. I don't think that's quite accurate ...
I know people really quite close to Lance, and from what I've heard from them and what I know from personal experience, I really don't think it's accurate to say that he just dumped his wife out of the blue.

I can tell you first hand that racing bicycles at any sort of competitive level is indescribably hard on relationships, and after only being able to see him a few hours a day, a few weeks a year, I couldn't blame her for wanting to leave him.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:25 PM
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28. a SCAB!
Exactly! I love it!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:48 PM
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3. Oh, great.
I hope Lance's injuries won't be too severe when Mr Pretzel falls on him.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:53 PM
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18. Now that is funny
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:45 PM
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39. That is exactly what I thought
except for the "mr. pretzel" part. :rofl:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:49 PM
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4. Armstrong disagrees with Bush's policies on most things...
Armstrong is also known to be very non-religious.
Maybe he is going to try to get more govt money for cancer research.


"Armstrong also spent some time during the Tour de France with Bush's former rival, 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, who followed in a car during the final time trial. Armstrong said he's not taking sides in politics even though he's opposed to the war in Iraq.

``As a survivor, I think we would be better spending money on an illness like cancer,'' he said. "
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:49 PM
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I foresee a bunch more facial injuries.
How are they going to keep him on the bike?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:49 PM
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5. Eh. I'll forgive him. This time.
But don't make it a habit, Lance. I know you are only trying to win support for your cause, and I applaud that. But Bush isn't interested in your cause, he wants your face next to his in a photo to prove you support him in all things. He has no integrity of his own, so he is trying to steal yours.

Ask Magic Johnson about such things.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:05 PM
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10. Why forgive him?
If he disagrees with the policies of this administration, show it by not entertaining *. Let's face it, * is not going to engage Armstrong in a debate over policy or principle. The only way to make the point is to snub him. Instead of riding with *, Armstrong should show solidarity with Cindy Sheehan. Same thing with sports teams and other who might otherwise visit * for the obligatory photo op. Don't show up. Stand up for your principles.

Lance - stand with Cindy.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:11 PM
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12. I don't know that that is his principle
From the few times I've heard him speak on politics, he says we should spend more money on cancer research and less on things like war. He may not have a high political awareness. His big issue is cancer, and he's doing what he can for it.

He'll figure out that he's being used and will get nothing out of it, but it will take a snub or two. Right now he's just trying to get something done for his cause. So I forgive him, for now.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:11 PM
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13. right.
nt
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:51 PM
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6. Maybe Lance should ask him about Stem Cell research.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:53 PM
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7. Ride out the front gate than.

Go meet a mom who's son died in your false war.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:54 PM
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8. good thing Lance is retired
bush is known to crash his bike, and take out other riders.
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:01 PM
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9. Lance just said we should have a war against cancer...
Doesn't sound very Republican there... Too compassionate...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050814/ts_nm/armstrong_dc
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:26 PM
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14. This crash should be interesting
I can see the headline now:
Bush kills greatest cycler at Crawford Ranch.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:36 PM
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15. No kidding. My first thought too. Keep the ambulances ready..
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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19. Ride with Lance among Bush's plans at the ranch (AP)
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 04:49 PM by truthpusher
Would Armstrong say anything about the protest?

http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=143330

Ride with Lance among Bush's plans at the ranch
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8/14/2005 4:19 PM
By: Associated Press
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WACO, Texas -- President Bush is getting plenty of bike time during his ranch vacation.

Next week, he even gets to hit the trails with seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong.

Armstrong told ABC's “This Week'' that he'll travel to Crawford next Saturday to ride mountain bikes with the president around Bush's ranch. He said it'll be a “dream scenario.''

It also must be a dream scenario for Bush to ride with Armstrong, a fellow Texan and cancer survivor who last month won his most recent Tour de France.

(snip)



complete story: http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=143330
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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20. Whatcha wanna bet that Bush rides out in front
of the pack?
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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21. why Lance, why?
:-(
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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22. 3, 2, 1...
n/t
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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23. Who knows? Lance may bike by Camp Casey...
His recent remarks that we should be focusing more on the war against cancer instead of the war in Iraq was pretty revealing...
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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25. Interesting - do you have a link to those remarks?
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:30 PM
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66. Even better...
CrooksandLiars.com has a video clip.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:56 PM
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24. Now why in the hell would Lance want to be anywhere NEAR
that miserable SOB? I wonder if Sheryl Crow approves of that huge lack of judgement? She is against the Chimp...I thought Lance was too. How disappointing. x(
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:04 PM
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27. Lance is anti Iraq war? We'll be watching.n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:59 PM
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26. Here's a fellow Texan....
...Bush can cut brush with:

http://www.censuriana.de/texte/genrefilm/TCM,%20Leatherface.jpg

A dream scenario!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:43 PM
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32. I hope that Bush is so delusional as to challenge Armstrong to a race
And gets his ass handed to him on a platter!

Here's an article that reveals *'s Walter Mitty complex ...
"He jokes that he was leading the "peleton," the rolling swarm of bicyclists in races like the Tour de France -- a race he watched regularly this month before Armstrong's victory Sunday."

"In one remote section, cattle stare back at him as he rides a path littered with cow dung."

Oh, boy. I hope that with his reflexes, Armstrong is able to dart out of the way as Bush skids and lands right in the poop!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127076,00.html
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:08 PM
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63. Why He Fell - He Grabbed His Front Brake
And in the next paragraph, if Bush hadn't hit the brake on the front wheel instead of braking the back wheel as he should have on a downhill, he wouldn't have done an endo. He should really get some coaching on how to properly ride a bike and maybe he wouldn't fall so much.Or read a book on how to bike properly.

I wiped out a lot the first few years I started mountain biking too, but I never tried to look like I was some champion back then.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:53 PM
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33. Then fuck you, Lance. Cancer or no, just fuck you.
Redstone
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:58 PM
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34. Better let him win, Lance.
CRAWFORD, Texas - Standing on the driveway outside his home, President Bush explains the rules for people who go mountain biking with him.

It will be a vigorous workout. It is not a race. And no one, the president says with a smile, is allowed to pass him.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/14/Worldandnation/Hitting_the_trail_wit.shtml

It's not pretty when a 60 year old egomaniac has a temper tantrum.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:36 PM
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36. Watch out Lance. He's a brush clearer!
Make it a productive meeting.


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:38 PM
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37. Who really gives a flying fuck about lance armstrong?
The guy rides a bicycle and for that he is some kind of hero. They let him in to see chimp because he is too dumb to ask him about why he lied about WMD.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:44 PM
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38. $5 says Bush falls off his bike again. Any takers??
anyone?
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:49 PM
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41. Huh ... Between the two of 'em .... no balls.
At least Lance has an excuse.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:56 PM
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42. If he was a real president he wouldn't have so much time to play outside.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:28 PM
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43. Ummm, these are the mountains in west Texas, right?
the ones that don't go up any mountains? Or hills? Or slopes? Or slight curves?
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 05:11 PM
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64. Right.
And the trails on Bush's property that are graveled or paved or well-groomed.

I want to know one thing: How do you put a 17 mile trail on a property that is only 1600 acres?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:38 PM
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44. Just don't ride behind him, Lance. Bush is an accident waiting to happen.
Armstrong rode with Kerry, is anti-war, pro-France, pro-secularism, and dates a leftwing woman. Dumping on him because of this is low class.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:38 PM
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45. It'd be great if Lance rode thru Camp Casey on the way back
Could happen. Would be cool if it did.

Hekate
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:08 PM
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46. kick
...O...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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47. Bush to ride with cycling champion Armstrong
President George W. Bush, an avid cyclist, will test his mettle against Lance Armstrong when the cycling superstar visits the president's Texas ranch this weekend.

Armstrong, 33, a cancer survivor who has won seven straight Tour de France competitions, will ride with Bush, 59, on the 1,600-acre (650-hectare) ranch on Saturday.

"The president has said that Lance is an incredible inspiration to people from all walks of life, that he's a true American champion, so I think they'll enjoy their visit on Saturday," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said on Tuesday.

Bush turned to mountain biking after a knee injury forced him to give up running. He took a small group of reporters on a two-hour ride on his ranch in the August heat last weekend. There was one rule -- no one overtakes the president.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050816/ts_nm/bush_armstrong_dc&printer=1;_ylt=Au01G.P6KkRfSHQgnhCVZEdg.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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48. Bwahahaha!
Stop! You're killing me!!!

:spray: :rofl:
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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49. Isnt Lance a Dem in training? nt
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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50. Can you say 'Publicity'?
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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52. No, but I can ask...
if he can go for a bike ride with LA... why can't he meet with Cindy?
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sdfernando Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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58. Doesn't need it
He won the freakin Tour 7 times in a row! No one has ever done that before (probably no one will match that for a VERY long time, if ever). He doesn't need the publicity. The only thing he is accomplishing by doing this is giving the blivet some good press. I'd pass, I'd urge him to pass. Then again, if he thoroughly humiliates * in public, well, that might redeem him in my eyes.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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59. I wasn't refering to Lance n/t
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sdfernando Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:29 PM
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62. OK, just wasn't clear in you posting. n/t
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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51. i hope lance stops to visit cindy
nt
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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53. "forced him to give up running" ? so he can't run but he can hide
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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54. watch out Lance! * will either swerve into you ...
... or fall off his own bike (and blame it on you -- since he's already blamed the weather for an earlier spill).
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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55. Not much of a "test of his mettle"...
if the king always has to win. What a spoiled brat.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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56. Lance! Lance!! Wait up!!
C'mon Lance...sob..Lance...Lance!!!!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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57. I hope they put on Booshies training wheels,
so he doesn't make an ass out of himself AGAIN.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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60. "Not the first time Lance has had to deal with a diseased testicle" said
Mark Maron on Morning Sedition today.

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:09 PM
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61. Oh Please ... Oh Please!?!
Bring Sheryl Crowe Lance? I'm sure her and Pickles will get along famously. <snicker> They could smoke Laura's stash from her college days. :smoke:
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:38 PM
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69. I don't give a fuck if he's a hero for beating cancer. This SUCKS.
Can Armstrong read a NEWSPAPER?

WHY does he want to align himself with this man?

:grr:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:30 PM
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67. I think we should bombard Lance
with emails asking him to meet with Mrs. Sheehan while he is there.
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Groggy Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:54 PM
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68. I wonder what his girlfriend thinks about that...??
Sheryl Crowe opened for Kerry's rally here.
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