Doubt on war grows in U.S.

[sabra]

http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/nation/12384245.htm

Doubt on war grows in U.S.

CRANBERRY TOWNSHIP, Pa. - (KRT) - As surely as sweet-corn stands and rolling farmland give way to the boxlike tract housing of new suburbs here, President Bush is losing ground on the battlefield of public opinion when it comes to the war in Iraq.

Even among Republicans who cheered the invasion of Iraq two years ago, and some who supported Bush's re-election and his exhortation to "stay the course," the ongoing loss of American life without a clear course for withdrawal is taking a toll.

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It also resounds in a series of interviews with voters from the blossoming suburbs and withering steel-mill warrens outside Pittsburgh to the old cotton-mill country and military-minded precincts of South Carolina. Frustration and perplexity are voiced from Southern California to Terre Haute, Ind.

"Two or three years ago, when everything started, I thought it was a good idea," said Laura French, a Republican from Evan City, Pa. "But now I think enough is enough. It's time to come home."

[Erika]

1. One by one they are seeing the light

Especially if Iraq does away with the rights of women.

[rodeodance]

2. makes my day to see a headlines like this!!

[saigon68]

43. The Thugs who run HALLIBURTON

Still have their SNOUTS in the public tax trough and are feeding deeply.

[TahitiNut]

3. "Doubt"? (Sheesh!) It's a CERTAINTY that it's a crime - a fraud.

I wonder how many are beginning to "doubt" the eath is flat. :puke:

We sure as hell have a bassackwards "burden of proof" in this country!! Fucking imbeciles!

[Cocoa]

4. more and more people are becoming "pessimist nay-sayers"

as Scott McClellan called anyone who had less than his masters' rosy Iraq picture.

[bluestateguy]

5. You baby boomers will recognize this picture

And I would submit that in about a year that is to be the fate of another arrogant Texas president who is paralyzed by a war.

[gristy]

9. wow...

That photo speaks volumes. But he could be leaning over for any number of reasons. I suppose.

[Benhurst]

13. Very dramatic ... and posed. NT

[bluestateguy]

19. This picture was taken after a briefing on the Tet Offensive

After the meeting, LBJ is shown listening to a tape recording of his Marine son-in-law Charles Robb (yes, that Charles Robb) describing the effects of the Tet Offensive.

[Seabiscuit]

41. If that were Bush, he'd probably be leaning over because he dropped his

pretzel on the floor. Seconds later, he'd have carpet burns on his face.

[countmyvote4real]

11. At least he had the civil rights bill on his legacy.

This one has the patriot act. Double damned as far as I am concerned.

[niallmac]

16. OMG no! Not bushie.

The man in the picture is torn by the V Nam war and dashed hopes of a war on poverty. If that is one day bushie in that picture he will just be recovering from a bad pretzel. Deep down inside bushie is very shallow.

[Demeter]

32. Is that LBJ?

Maybe the older Boomers would know...

[Seabiscuit]

42. Yes, it is LBJ

(from one who preceded the boomers)

[Bigmack]

6. Too bad all those assholes...

...who are changing their minds didn't do just a little research on their own about how much chance the neocon wetdream stood of coming true. A couple of hours would have been enough to prove to the dullest of them that the best the US could hope for is a gigantic civil war in Iraq.

They wouldn't have to change their minds now, and 1800 US troops would be alive, along with uncountable Iraqis.

"Two or three years ago, when everything started, I thought it was a good idea," Fuck you, Laura French.

[daleo]

8. Laura French - an oddly symbolic name considering the subject. n/t

[montana_hazeleyes]

39. I wonder if she went by Laura Freedom during all the anti french

crap.

These people make me sick. They cheer the bombing of innocent men, women and children in Iraq, but they were all incensed over the
Palestinian kids who were shown all over tv supposedly celebrating the towers going down at 9/11. (I think that has since been proven to have been a scene from a whole different thing}.

[cliss]

14. Yes, too bad.

I agree BigM. I was NEVER in favor of this war. I could see it for what it was - a Disaster of gigantic proportions. So did a huge portion of the world's population. There were protest marches from Tasmania to Antarctica.

People knew better.

[leftchick]

33. brian lamb said for months on c-span that PNAC was "conspiricy theory"

on the internet before the war. :grr:

[Skittles]

7. FUCK YOU MS. FRENCH

STUPID, IGNORANT ASSHOLE VOTERS LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON THESE KIDS ARE DYING. THOUSANDS ARE DEAD AND FINALLY YOU ARE SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? FUCK YOU, YOU REPUBLICAN WHORE.

[are_we_united_yet]

12. Don't tone it down Skittles.

Just let Ms. French have it.

;)

[Skittles]

20. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE are_we_united_yet

NOW they're sorry about it? NOW they regret it? These dipshits would vote for that piece of shit bush again in a heartbeat. THEY CAN ALL GO TO HELL!! Who the HELL do they think they are kidding?????

for the non regulars - I usually do tone my cussing down with asterisks - only when I am EXTREMELY outraged do I uncover :o

[are_we_united_yet]

23. I know. I know.

I'm so pissed off, I don't even fly off the handle anymore. I'm so numb to the lunacy of these fucking wingnut idiots, its hard to get a rise out of me anymore. That is a truly a pathetic state of affairs.

[Skittles]

25. I just read the Top Ten Conservative Idiots

JAYSUS it's freaking BIZARRO WORLD - and there are people who actually STILL SUUPPORT THESE F***ERS. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA................

[msanthrope]

28. I can't take it anymore either--stupid fucking morons, voting

for a stupid fucking cowboy, and now, NOW, they are waking up and looking around in amazement and wonder at the shooting gallery that Iraq has become?

Fuck you, you redstate, Bush voting morons. Get to the back of the line.

[Mari333]

34. amen, Skittles. amen.

[dchill]

24. Skittles -

You have crystallized my thoughts exactly. Here's hoping that all who had "faith" in the GWB Assholes Anonymous get what they deserve.

[Skittles]

26. I know I shoiuld be happy people are finally pulling their heads out

but all I feel is absolute CONTEMPT and DUSGUST that they were EVER fooled by this PIECE OF SHIT whose IDIOCY is on dipslay EVERY TIME HE ATTEMPTS TO SPEAK.

[wtmusic]

29. 100% agree

we all have blood on our hands. They have more.

[dchill]

37. We are on the same page...

about those who were fooled, but I reserve special contempt for the other A-List - those so selfish and short-sighted that I'd bet they would vote against their own water and air so that some others couldn't have any. I have a name for them - straight-ticket Republicans.

[countmyvote4real]

10. Guess we’re going to need another homeland situation…

Something prior to the November 2006 elections should bring these doubters back in line. And the finger will point straight to Iran.

[growlypants]

15. Yeah, Cheyney is just ITCHING to drop a nuke

on Iran. I bet he will. Can you imagine??? Christ, I'm outta here (the counrty, I mean). We're DOOMED

[yorkiemommie1]

17. Always ask " Why "

is what I was taught in school. Some of us did, Some of us didn't and all of us are suffering. Some of us are dead.

Let us hope that more people ask " Why " when * starts his push into Iran.

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. They ought put their painted band-aids back on and head

to Iraq. Anybody stupid enough to support that war should go there and suffer the consequences of it.

[Journeyman]

21. Who thinks Laura French will want to rush into Iran?. . .

I wonder how many Laura French's there are today. . .

Ah, those French. We always knew they'd remain a thorn in W's side.

[wli]

22. what doubt? It's a stupid oil/euro/etc. geopolitical blunder

[expatriot]

27. But they won't blame Bush _that _ much because, hey, we ALL thought it was

a good idea at the time, right? Bush made the best decision at the _time_ and now he is just staying the course because he knows better than us, but if it _were_ up to me I would pull out but I guess that Bush is a stronger, more resolute guy than I am.

Down the memory hole.

[BadGimp]

30. These people are emerging from a deep state of denial

These two quotes from different people have much in common that is obvious, but much more that is not.

"Two or three years ago, when everything started, I thought it was a good idea," said Laura French, a Republican from Evan City, Pa. "But now I think enough is enough. It's time to come home."

...

"A couple of years ago, I thought the invasion of Iraq was justified," said Victor Diaz, a 30-year-old consultant in Los Angeles. "I believed the reports that stated Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and figured it would only be a matter of time before they were found."

They both have not expressed any sense of responsibility for the carnage their support for the illegal invasion of Iraq has caused, and continues to cause.

Wait till people start to wake up to how they allowed themselves to be misled. An how much of the blood of our troops and the Iraqis is ON THEIR HANDS. THEN we shall see more visceral reactions from these sheeple.

ONe can hope anyway...

[Roy]

31. all of this can still be lost though can't it?

Will all the dis-content with the Bush cabal help the dems and progressives in 2006 without the Dem leaders exposing the pattern of lying and corruption rampant throughout the Republican party?

I don't see any of them even attempting to paint the big picture.

These Republicans are really only expressing doubts about Iraq (no other policies) based on the escalating military fatalities.

They will only need the slightest excuse to vote the same congress critters back into office in 2006 and even someone equal to or worse than Bush in 2008.

I believe the corruption needs to be highlighted to the point they will stay home on election day. Going through contortions trying to gain their votes I believe will prove fruitless.

[Javaman]

35. "Two or three years ago, when everything started...

I thought it was a good idea". a good idea?????

WTF???

So let's look at this sentence.

If it was a short happy war with only, say, 10K civilians killed would she have been happy with that???

But, oh darn, it's gone on way to long. she just can't keep focused that long!! Hey, Laura, you stupid fuck wit, war is war, it sucks, whether it's a week long or 2 1/2 years long.

Wake the fuck up!! this war is based on lies!!! No war is a good war, but this one is a colossal mind fuck on the American public and you, you stupid twit, swallowed it hook line and sinker and now that it's interrupting your life, you suddenly don't like it????? Fuck you, you selfish twit, close to 1900 soldiers and close to 100,000 iraqi's have died for your ignorant support of morons* war.

One last thing, laura, I'm glad you are wiping the shit from your eyes and finally seeing that the moron* has no clothes!!

This is the McNamara defense. I was all pro war, until I stopped selling my soul to the devil, now please forgive me for all of your children that I killed with my stupidity.

colossal failure*

[calimary]

36. Better late than never, I guess.

I have a WHOLE LOT of "I told you so's" for these lemmings.

The blood and wreckage is on THEIR hands, as well. Everyone who says he or she still supports the "president" - EXACTLY as culpable in this as he is. They may not have to answer for it now, but I bet St. Peter will have a few questions for them after they die...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

38. That's why * wants to attack Iran

[flaminbats]

40. ex nihilo nihil fit..

Republicans opposed any military involvement in Bosnia, not because it was wrong, but because Clinton had not presented "a clear exit strategy!!"

I remember Republicans using that line when opposing every military deployment undertaken by Clinton. But who cares if action in Bosnia was or wasn't in our national interest?? Who cares if this war in Iraq is not in our national interest, and if Bush has no exit strategy??

Why waste a vote for someone who doesn't care?