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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:27 AM
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US reports death of Zarqawi aide as senators demand Rumsfeld's head
US reports death of Zarqawi aide as senators demand Rumsfeld's head

August 15, 2005, 09:48 gmt

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A top aide to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, head of the Al-Qaeda operation in Iraq and accused of masterminding high-profile suicide bombings in the country, has been killed by Iraqi security forces, defense officials have confirmed.

A top aide to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, head of the Al-Qaeda operation in Iraq and accused of masterminding high-profile suicide bombings in the country, has been killed by Iraqi security forces, defense officials have confirmed.

Abu Zubair, also known as Mohammed Salah Sultan, was gunned down in the northern city of Mosul Friday, when he got caught in an ambush set up by Iraqi security forces, the officials said, confirming a report by Mosul police.
(snip)

"I think Rumsfeld should get his notice on Monday morning," Biden said as he appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" program.

Republican Senator John McCain, a possible presidential candidate in 2008, echoed the view, adding, "I don't have confidence" in Rumsfeld.
(snip/...)

http://www.bakutoday.net/afps/english/shared/int/050815074840.xlo8t8lk.html

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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:42 AM
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1. And just in time they find another #3!
How have any of these dickheads held on to their jobs?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:45 AM
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2. This is the 15th #3 they have found...
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 03:46 AM by jsamuel
they find one every 2 weeks..


If you don't believe me, look it up...
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:56 AM
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13. How is it possible for them to give a percentage of arrested or killed...
when they have no idea of the base figure? I swear, I have often heard it on CNN.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:36 AM
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18. You're not still stuck on those old reality-based
numbers, are ya?

Get with it! This is the * era - need good employment numbers? Make 'em up! Need a percentage killed of al-Q? Make 'em up! Much easier and way more satisfying than actually finding out anything!

right?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:05 AM
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16. They're sorta like bank VPs...
> And just in time they find another #3!

Every local branch of your bank has a Vice President running it. They
have no actual authority (that's for the "Executive VPs") but it makes
the customers feel better when they demand to talk to someone in charge:

"Here, let me introduce you to the Vice President. *She* can help you."

Tesha
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:12 AM
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20. Did we find the Al-Queda org chart?
Is that how we know he's #3? Did we capture the Al-Queda personnel director to confirm this? And does Al-Queda have an HMO?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:26 AM
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21. Except for those parts they've out-sourced back to the CIA
> And does Al-Queda have an HMO?

Yeah, except for those parts they've out-sourced back to the CIA.

Tesha
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:20 AM
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25. Harper's magazine Index this month...
states, "Number of killed or captured suspects reported so far by U.S. media to be Al Qaeda's 'number 3' man: 4 :eyes:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:46 AM
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3. my, what timing... and how do they know he's #3?
Does "al Qaeda" publish org charts or something?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:27 AM
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28. Didn't you know? They post the org chart on the jihadi web sites n/t
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:47 AM
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4. . . . . ? ? ? . . . .
.
.
.


I'm NOT quite sure how this photo in the Posted Article fits into the story . . .


A US soldier from the 3rd Infantry Division listens to the music at a swimming pool in Camp Taji northwestern of Baghdad
© AFP Liu Jin

:shrug:

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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:52 AM
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5. If the terrorists have their way,
we won't be seeing ass like that. It's what we're fighting for, man!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:26 AM
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26. Too funny!!
:rofl:

Oh, and they have a pool and the Iraqi's don't have clean water to drink. :-( The irony!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:08 AM
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8. interesting--these troops have a swimming pool. Nice.
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:36 AM
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Well,
Maybe they think she'll help get recruitment up.:D
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:53 AM
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15. Maybe to show the work is being done by Iraqi security forces?
>has been killed by Iraqi security forces
>has been killed by Iraqi security forces
>ambush set up by Iraqi security forces
>by US and Iraqi security forces last week
>coalition and Iraqi security forces efforts
:shrug:
Otherwise, it sure doesn't fit with the contents of the article.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:43 AM
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22. Inserted as an oblique advertisement for young men to sign up
See the lovely lady there, see how good life is there, swimming pools everywhere, sign up and see the lovely lady and the pool.
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:01 AM
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6. F*ck McCain
McCain was particularly incensed by recent statements by General George Casey, the top US military commander in Iraq, and other Pentagon officials that substantial withdrawals from Iraq could begin as early as next year.

"Look, I've got an idea for our Pentagon planners," the Arizona senator opined testily on the Fox News Sunday show. "The day that I can land at the airport in Baghdad and ride in an unarmed car down the highway to the 'green zone' is the day that I'll start considering withdrawals from Iraq."


In other words, when Hell freezes over.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:06 AM
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7. quite the headline huh?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:36 AM
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10. Was McCain glad to be released from the Hanoi Hilton
when we finally withdrew from Vietnam in 1973, or would he rather have extended his stay there indefinitely?
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:40 AM
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11. Well I think it's time to allow those who believe
we need to stay the course to do exactly that. McCain and ANY other congress person along with the entire cabinet and those who are for the war should be have their happy asses immediately sent to Iraq so that they may fulfill all of their desires.

We would probably never see them again. sigh...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 08:59 AM
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23. Yep - stay the course. And what's with Biden "scapegoating" Rummy
for not getting NATO allies involved? I'm not defending Rummy, but they should be calling for the heads of Bush and Cheney.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:19 AM
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9. a little schizoid in the head{line}
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 04:48 AM
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12. "Let me put it this way, regarding the detainees...
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 04:52 AM by wake.up.america
It is obvious that it is not clear what we do know is not unimportant to all that has yet to be uncovered in those areas remaining not off limits to the area of discussions with and without proper dissemination of authorized press releases regarding the maltreatment of war prisoners, I mean detainess, or is it prisoners,in Cuba."
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:05 AM
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14. So does this mean that Rummie will be retiring soon?
Or is he going to 'stay the course' no matter what anyone says or does?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:30 AM
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17. Best headline of the day Judi Lynn!
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 07:31 AM by leftchick
The rummy part not getting number 3 for the 18th time. And photo too! :hi:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:39 AM
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19. maybe this one was an "executive" vice president?
There can only be a few of those.

I am so proud of the Iraqi Army. Catching all these #3 guys is a clear sign of success.

Anyone else notice how that #3 AQ guy captured near Pakistan dropped off the radar screen?
So much for putting a dagger into AQ's operations in Afghanistan.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:03 AM
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24. Oh, it's ok. We have bigger (Iranian) insurgents to fry
:eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:15 AM
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27. Include a "graphic content" warning when posting Rummy/Strangelove pics!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:15 AM
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29. I'm going to ignore the Top Ten Chart
and focus on RumsFailed. So senators are demanding his head? Why? Because the war in Iraq is going badly?

I've been reading a steady stream of complaints against this man, which has escalated recently. Most intense was about 1 year ago, with the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

RumsFool said then, "I've submitted my resignation to the president, but he wouldn't accept it".

Recently, Rum was in a congressional hearing. Ted Kenney asked, "Has the security situation in Iraq improved? Rum: No, I can't say that it has". Kennedy: "Isn't it about time you handed in your resignation?" Fool: "I've submitted my resignation twice, but they won't accept it".

Who's kidding who here? They need to forget about RumsFathead and start looking a little higher, like maybe Pres. Cheney and Bush. I sense an unbelievable disconnect between these people. They must not be talking to each other, because the stories are always different. They're like a bunch of chickens running around.



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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:22 AM
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30. Yep, more politics - sound tough yet too chicken to call for the correct
heads to this fiasco. Will Rummy be the sacrificial lamb? :eyes:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:46 AM
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31. I have a feeling that the McNamara wannabe isn't going to
be around much longer. He's the next to go, they will install an ever weirder further right bastard. Kristol was even calling for his head, so it is clear that Israel has lost faith in him, and that's the last straw.
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