Mothers differ on mom trying to talk to Bush

[Mizmoon]

Three mothers who have drawn comfort from each other after having lost sons to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan do not see eye to eye concerning the actions of another mother, who is demanding an explanation from the president of his handling of the troops.

...

Minucci says Sheehan's vigil undermines support for the troops.

"If she wants an explanation from the president, she needs to see a psychiatrist first," Minucci said. "She should be very proud to know her son died to help keep our freedom."

On the other hand, Kenney says Bush should speak with Sheehan.

"I don't think she will get the answers she will be looking for, but Bush should act like a man and not like a president and have the decency to see her," Kenney said.

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"I don't want to be political about this, because I support the troops," she said. "But I'm not too sure about how I feel about the war now. I know if it were not for the war, my son would still be alive."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-liside15,0,5688037.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. "Act like a man, not a president"

ha ha. This mother apparently thinks that a president, by definition, is cold and heartless. As for the first mom-with the Patriot Act and Gitmo, does she really think we have the freedoms we had before 911? Does she really think that invading a country with no ties to that tragedy somehow protected freedom?

[KnaveRupe]

2. While I grieve for these women's losses,

just as I grieve for Cindy Sheehan's loss, I cannot help but be amazed at the capacity of the human mind to come up with some WTF?-inducing statements.

She should be very proud to know her son died to help keep our freedom.

Even in Bushzarro world, I can't understand how anyone could think that "our freedoms" were threatened by Iraq. Or Afghanistan, for that matter. The only threat to our freedoms has come from Pennsylvania Avenue, as far as I can tell.

Bush should act like a man and not like a president and have the decency to see her

Ummmm.... am I some kind of lunatic to think that meeting with her would be the MOST presidential thing this guy could do?

I don't want to be political about this, because I support the troops

When, oh, when will people realize that supporting the troops and supporting the jackass who lied in order to put them in harm's way are MUTUALLY FREAKIN' EXCLUSIVE?!

God, it's so sad. This breaks my heart almost as much as the crosses in Crawford. These poor women. Clinging to the lie that their sons' deaths meant something, because the alternative is so horrible. I guess I can understand where they're coming from after all.

[Libby2]

3. I think someone who

suggests someone see a psychiatrist because she wants to know why her son was killed, should seek help herself.
Pathetic......truly pathetic.

[ixion]

4. "I don't want to be political about this, because I support the troops,"

uh, how is that not a political stance? :crazy:

[mikeytherat]

6. ...and this

"But I'm not too sure about how I feel about the war now. I know if it were not for the war, my son would still be alive."

Actually, you DO know how you feel about the war. The war took your son away, and you acknowledge that; I'd bet your feelings about the war are less than positive.

mikey_the_rat

[stanwyck]

5. More proof that Bush is sadly lacking

he showed his weakness during Viet Nam when he stood down on his flight training after receiving millions of dollars of training at taxpayers' expense. Now, he repeatedly has been driven past the grieving parents. He won't stop. He said, Saturday, "I've got a life to live". Does he have any idea how amazingly insensitive that sounds to parents who have lost their children? He's riding bikes and going to GOP fundraisers.
One of the fathers, a Navy veteran, said Clinton would have stopped. Carter would have stopped. Kennedy would have stopped.
But not Bush.

[KnaveRupe]

9. Hell, even Reagan, Bush the elder, & Richard F*cking NIXON

would have had the politcal savvy to know that talking to her a week ago would have defused the whole situation. Only the current spoiled-brat-in-chief would stamp his little feet and refuse to meet a grieving mother because she might ask some tough questions.

Honest to cripes, has there ever been a LESS presidential schmuck at the helm? Clinton was ten times the president this guy was, even while he was getting jiggy in the West Wing.

[stanwyck]

12. And now he's waited too long

if he speaks with her now, he'll lose too many macho points with his hateradio fans cause it will appear that he capitulated.
The man just is lacking in empathy. Either he was horribly spoiled as a child or he's just organically narcissistic.
Possibly his handlers are still pushing the stubborness trait as leadership.
It's all they have left.

[LibDemAlways]

16. At this point it's lose-lose for the chimp.

His handlers weren't savvy enough last week to see the damage this could do. When they first heard about it, they should have been smart enough to send a car for her, given her ten minutes to speak her peace in front of the moron, and sent her on her way. Then they could have issued a press release to the effect that the President heard Mrs. Sheehan out and noted her concerns.

Now their hands are tied. Chimp is making foolish, feeble excuses to reporters about needing to get on with his life -- digging an ever deeper hole. He never wanted to meet with her. He'd rather have someone shove a hot poker up his ass. But, now he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

[SemperEadem]

19. To me, this is *'s "swift boat" lack-of-response moment

Just like Kerry should have nipped it in the bud right at the start, but didn't and it helped to sink his bid, * should have met with Cindy weeks ago and it would have diffused the situation and not portray him as the gutless punk-wonder of the western world that he is.

Now, he can't meet with her because he truly would be viewed as a henpecked chump letting a woman order him around. He has lost SO MUCH from not doing the right thing in this instance that, fortunately, he will not regain.

[sniffa]

7. yes, if casey hadn't died, i wouLdn't be free

[uppityperson]

14. Now that would be a good sign message sniffa

though those who it would be pointed towards wouldn't understand the irony.

[leetrisck]

8. We support Cindy but I also support

to feel however they feel -

[leftchick]

10. The day Mrs. Minucci asks herself just how her son kept us "free"

will be a truly sad one for her. She is in mourning and if convincing herself that it was some noble cause that he died for fine. But she should not criticize how another Mother mourns her dead loved one.

[matt819]

11. Do they even know what they mean when they talk about supporting the troop

Hell, I suspect most of the troops are opposed to this war and probably welcome this kind of protest, especially since they cannot protest it themselves.

Also, don't these idiots understand that you can "support the troops" in many different ways without supporting this mad war? Go volunteer at a VA hospital. Send care packages. Whatever. It does not mean putting an inane magnetic ribbon on the back of your car.

[Roland99]

13. Don't you just love all the grieving mother bashers?

Aren't these bashers' lives just SO perfect in EVERY way? Just think about how wonderful it must be to be SO perfect.

[Miss Chybil]

20. Exactly. People will grieve the loss of their loved ones in their own way

Whether it further one political cause, or another, is irrelevant. Their loss is theirs to deal with as they must. If they must stand in a ditch and ask why, or if they must console themselves with believing their loved ones died for a "noble cause," it's their burden. Bashing is inappropriate.

[zara]

15. Its newsworthy that all mothers don't agree on a single solution?

[Gregorian]

17. It's hard work to not report on the Downing Street Minutes.

It's the non-news.

[SemperEadem]

18. idiot

Ms. Munucci, your statement would be true if your son did die to protect our freedom. He didn't. He was butchered in the quest for oil and dominance. He was culled to forward a lie. You may feel some sense of pride in knowing your son threw away his life for nothing, but you are truly in the minority over that.

Ms. Kenney, you are right on point. * should play the man for once in his life. I can't believe that he is afraid of a woman. What a punk.

[Daphne08]

21. "She should be very proud to know her son died

to help keep our freedom." (Minucci said)

Huh? I don't understand where these people are getting these ideas!

Saddam Hussein did NOT attack the U.S. and Iraq harbored NO terrorists who attacked us.

I do wish people would READ reputable news sources!

Oh, and we have LESS freedom now than we've EVER had in this country. :grr: