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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:53 PM
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Tensions force anti-Bush peace camp to move


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Tensions force anti-Bush peace camp to move

1 hour, 40 minutes ago

CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - A high profile peace camp set up by anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan is to move from the roadside outside
President George W. Bush's Texas ranch to a private property nearby following mounting hostilities with local residents......

One man drove a sports utility truck over white crosses, planted by the activists and bearing the names of US soldiers killed in
Iraq on Monday night. Some residents have sought a court order to stop the activists parking near the ranch.

Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, has also had a bad week with the news that her husband has filed for divorce.

But the 48-year-old said she would not leave. "What happened last night is very disturbing to all of us and to all Americans," she said of the vandalising of the crosses.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:55 PM
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1. Sorry guys, can't help myself, "Asshole rednecks!" nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:57 PM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:57 PM
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4.  a pic of sad sad Cindy on this site also.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:45 PM
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22. 262 votes average 3.3 The Hateful Fundies are checking in.
The extreme right wing nut jobs are being rallied by RIMJOB and his fellow deviants.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:01 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:08 PM
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13. Have you seen this?
A brighter representation of Texans..

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Dylan Garcia (318 posts) Mon Aug-15-05 07:35 PM
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Thanks to the McLennan County Sheriff's Office

Never have I negotiated with finer law enforcement professionals than those I met on a dusty road in Crawford, Texas. Please send your well wishes and thanks to the McLellan County Sheriff's Office:



More at..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2011658
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:22 PM
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18. No, I hadn't...
...and I'm reacting primarily to what I've seen on the Web, and reports from folks like Guy James (who did his show from Crawford this past Saturday).

We need to STOP worshiping George W. Bush as the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

He is NOT God's Little Chosen Prince. HE'S A FUCKING AWOL ALCOHOLIC! He's a WORTHLESS FUCKING FRATBOY from CONNECTICUT! He wants to "re-connect with his Texas roots?"

HE HAS NO FUCKING TEXAS ROOTS!

Note to State of Texas: What the fuck is WRONG with you?

He's a "dry drunk" (as Bernie Ward said last night), and Oedipal AWOL Coward War-Mongering Substance-Abusing POS MOTHERF**KER, and as long as the town of Crawford Texas displays life-sized cardboard cutouts of this bastard, they can KISS-MY-ASS.

NOTE TO CRAWFORD: You stupid motherf**king redneck POS hole-in-the-wall dustbowl excuse for a "town"...you should not feel "civic pride" over your most "infamous" resident.

:grr:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:54 PM
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33. The redneck is the good guy.
He's the one who offered Cindy and supporters the use of his land. The realtor, Larry Northern, is the one who ran over the crosses. He's an idiot, not a redneck. That's the irony in this case. It's the redneck riding to the rescue. His cousin, Larry Mattlage, though, is an @sshole redneck, no argument there! ;)
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:57 PM
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3. Thank you, cousin!
A REAL Texan, obviously, who won't stand for bullies and flunkies throwing their weight around. Never saw a real Texan who wasn't a fan of the underdog, and who wouldn't get involved in an unfair fight.

Thanks from West Texas!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:00 PM
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7. WH spokesperson issue a statement today.


....The president's refusal was reaffirmed Tuesday by White House deputy spokeswoman Dana Perino.

"He has met with her," she said. "One of the most cherished rights in America is the right of free speech and she has a right to express her views. He doesn't agree with her views but he respects her right to peacefully protest."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:02 PM
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9. "He has met with her" yaddy yah--we know that Jr.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:05 PM
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11. As opposed to that "other" kind of texan who simply
moved here and bought a truck and hat......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:08 PM
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12. Bush said nothing about the crosses in the WH statement.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:23 PM
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19. Exactly my point.
Thanks to the cousin of the shooter who is providing this land as a haven for real American rights.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:58 PM
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5. Was she forced to move? Or was the offer to move concurrent
with something that made moving to private sound like an even better idea?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:04 PM
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10. I do not think it was forced. but they are basically in the ditches now.
they will more acres to sprall on in the new place. and someone said it is actually closer to the ranch
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:10 PM
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30. Being forced to move was on the table is my understanding after last
night's little affair. Already though, the sheriff, I believe had asked her to stay in town for her own safety (I read it someplace else). A kindly rancher very close to the ranch stepped forward this am or maybe late last night and made this very kindly offer.

More to come, details being worked out.

Thanks DU for staying on top of this and being so wonderful!!

From my heart and unofficialy on behalf of everyone at the Peace House.

Once again, DU rocks the house!

Peace.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 06:58 PM
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6. Bastards just couldn't resist, could they?
Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, has also had a bad week with the news that her husband has filed for divorce.

Peace.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:49 PM
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25. Yeah, I saw that and thought the same thing...
What she's been through is almost unimaginable, and it will get worse before it's over. This is a lady who has knowingly walked into a meat-grinder to save lives. There aren't too many people who would do that. I hope she knows that millions of us salute her.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:05 AM
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36. She is my hero.
Your avatar is great! Cindy is our lighthouse!

Peace.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:10 PM
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14. It is terrible that these poor people
have been inconvenienced by people excercising their Constitutional rights.

But then, imagine how inconvenient it is to be dead.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:14 PM
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15. Is this a lie? They were welcomed to a new camp.
I believe this is inaccurate.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:37 PM
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21. It's a Liesel.
As Al Franken would say. Cue "The Lonely Goatherd".
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:47 PM
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24. LOL! Well of course it is.
:)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:18 PM
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16. It was ridiculous tearing down those crosses. CNN covered the
story very sympathetically toward Sheehan on Lou Dobbs this evening. Showed a Iraq vet putting the crosses back up (and also how the crosses were laying on the ground)and the vet gave some comments on what the guy in the truck did. Also the new place they moved is way closer to Bush and they actually showed some cyclists on the Bush ranch...they are now in eyeshot of the Bush ranch. So it was some real negative publicity for the anti- Sheehan group(s).
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:20 PM
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17. It was stupid...no matter how idiots try to justify..

...or minimize it. It shows their mentality, and that AINT pretty.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:25 PM
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20. Oh, I can't believe the average non-political American
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 07:26 PM by barb162
or even the average Republican looking at the evening news and seeing the crosses laying on the ground with the names of the dead soldiers on each cross will react favorably to that moron who knocked them down. Or the groups who are protesting Sheehan. (There's a silver lining in every cloud? The anti-Sheehan groups really screwed up on this one)
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:04 PM
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28. Sorry...but living in a Repug part of Florida..
your living in a dream world...I agree that they screwed up, but the average Republican does not exist right now
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:09 PM
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29. Actually I know a few but they are dying off fast.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:47 PM
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23. "Tension" is forcing bush to
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:54 PM
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27. I wonder if he thinks that's a foreign country
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 07:49 PM
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26. "Tension"? Try "Terrorism".
That's what you call it when somebody makes someone else feel threatened due to their political position, isn't it?
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:28 PM
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31. What happened was terrible, but the tide is turning, IMO
One rancher offered part of his land to move people to safety. That's one more rancher than offered support yesterday. And I think he qualifies as a redneck too, so broad-brush painting is unfair. Where he stands, others will too.

Actions generate reactions. No news there. But the outpouring of support for Cindy has shocked and awed all the right people. The shameful incident that led to the move may be a flash point for those sitting on the fence to make a stand. As always, Cindy said all the right things, so I refuse to believe bad will lead to worse in this situation. Rather, the bad guys will get more desperate as they find themselves increasingly outside the mainstream in their efforts to paint Cindy and her supporters as just that. And the more desperate and mean they get, the worse it will be not for Cindy but for them and their cause.

There's danger in every movement for change. Just look to history for examples. The stronghearted win time after time as long as they keep their eyes on the prize no matter what or who comes along.
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:48 PM
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32. In addition 60-70 Crawford Residents filed papers to restrict public
parking, sitting, breathing etc.... in the area where everyone is at Camp Casey. A priceless piece of ditch indeed. it's going to the county commisioner or whoever for the rubber stamp or whatever and then the papers get served or whatever and yer told to move along now, find your freedom down the road.


"We've had enough by god now you pesky peaceniks practice yer free speechin' elsewhere, that ain't the way we do things 'round here".

Cowardly technocratic maneuvering.



"We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning."

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:15 PM
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34. Kicked and nominated
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:27 PM
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35. Three cheers for Mr. Mattladge for providing the land, HOWEVER
I give the poor man 48 hours before the death threats start coming in by phone. Hope he knows what he's in for.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 12:57 AM
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37. Was the headline from a talking points memo?
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 12:58 AM by BrightKnight
She was not forced to move. That is simply a lie.

It is not an anti-Bush peace camp. It is dishonest to describe it in this way. It is Cindy Sheehan's accountability vigil.

Cindy Sheehan has struck a nerve with a diverse group of people seeking accountability from Mr. Bush. While Mrs. Sheehan is gracious and probably shares the views of many of the people that have joined her, her purpose has not changed.

She has paid a very heavy price and has earned the right to ask the hard questions. She deserves simple and honest answers.

We are all paying a heavy price and we all deserve honest answers.


The time for partisan spin is over. Mr. Bush needs to stand up and take responsibility for his actions.

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