(Calif.) Governor backs electronic tracking (for life) for sex offenders

[Newsjock]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/16/DDG2JE781M1.DTL

Tens of thousands of California sex offenders would be forced to wear electronic tracking devices for the rest of their lives under two new bills backed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The bill, which boosts punishment for a wide range of sex offenses, "will give California the strictest laws and the toughest penalties for the worst crimes," he said Tuesday. "We want these criminals off the streets and away from our schools and children."

The governor's Capitol news conference turned up the heat on the Democrat-led Legislature, where many of the measures contained in the omnibus bills have died in party-line committee votes.

... The governor plans a full-court press to garner support for the bill, with events scheduled across the state. On Thursday, for example, former Gov. Pete Wilson and Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca will pump up the measure in a Southern California appearance.

But Schwarzenegger also warned he's ready to go directly to the people with an initiative if Democrats don’t cooperate.

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[msongs]

1. will HE be the first person to wear one, der gropenator?? and

of course it is all red meat to whip up his fund raising.

for sale for $8 million O.B.O = arnold schwarzenegger

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[salin]

14. the irony is overwhelming.

[madeline_con]

2. To anyone gasping at the horror and "injustice"....

Please find these pervs and let them live with you. NIMBY

They deserve to be scrutinized, ostracized and penalized for EVER.

There is no cure for their "illness". :puke:

[William Bloode]

4. It's not about them.

I do not condone sexual predators in any way. But if you allow this for sexual predators who's next? It's a slippery slope, and one i don't want to see happen.

It's easy to demonize a specific group, make the public fearful, then pass some type of legislation that ends up being used against us all.

[madeline_con]

5. "Who's next " is an alarmist reaction...

that allows pervs and other assorted scum "rights" they no longer deserve.

Unless we all decide that rape is a legitimate passtime, this type of legislation can never be used against all of us.

They're not being "demonized". they're being watched to avoid others being vicitimized.

[Cronus Protagonist]

9. Your anger is making me think you might be a candidate for a leg iron

Surely I'm mistaken and I didn't land on the wrong web site here. I thought we were liberals. We all know how widely a power like this would surely be abused.

I make a prediction here and now. If this is enacted, over 75% of the people wearing these trackers will be poor, non-white, male and under 35. There will be dozens, perhaps hundreds of innocent people who cannot afford a good attorney walking around with these trackers on for the rest of their lives.

Sorry, for me, one innocent having to endure this is one too many.

No innocent human being should ever be victimized by these Stalinesque authoritarion population control methods. I'd be ashamed to support any such thing, which is why I'm against it. YMMV.

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[William Bloode]

15. Alarmist??????

Uh, thats the normal authoritarian response.

Every time something intrusive like this is proposed the authoritarians say "we'll only use it for a certain group or in certain cases. Thats always a faulty statement. Patriot act anyone? And there are a ton of other examples.

I have been the victim of a sex crime. I was molested by a uncle(by marriage) when i was 5-6. It had quite an effect on my mental stability growing up. That being said, and even how i feel i would not wish this on my molester.

Why? you may ask. Well when you make a stand for individual liberty that means you have to stand for everyones liberties, even the ones you don't like. It's kinda like free speech. Most of the speech that needs protecting is speech that most of us don't like or condone. Yet i will fight for peoples right to say as they please.

Feh, alarmist! If i am an alarmist then you are a classic reactionary.

[Mister Mark]

10. are you an expert, madeline?

I'd like to hear about your credentials, and why you think you have the knowledge to proclaim, "There is no cure".

[Conservativesux]

13. Fine, but what group will be "banded" next? Camels nose time, me thinks..

"Sex offenders" now, but where will it end?

Or will it?

[Lori Price CLG]

3. Oh, good. He can start with tracking *himself.* n/t

[ignatius 2]

6. Wow.now that is some delicious irony!!!

n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

7. Let it begin with him.

That's all I can say.

[bananas]

8. He's trying to create a "phenomenon of anger" to get out the vote

His real issue is to get the redistricting passed at the special election, his strategy is to create a "phenomenon of anger" to get Republicans out to the polls.
There's going to be a ton of PR money thrown at getting redistricting passed, it will let them turn California red, and guarantee Republican presidents and Congress and Judges for decades.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/06/state/n173417D74.DTL&sn=003&sc=609
Unions, Democrats outraged over Schwarzenegger's 'phenomenon of anger'

[Mister Mark]

11. absolutely

I'm so sick of Schwartzy threatening to "take it to da peeple". He does this with practically every idea he has because he knows his ideas generally appeal to the lowest common denominator.

[Sven77]

12. if you dont get chipped your a terrorist

Andy Rooney is pro-chip.

''We need some system for permanently identifying safe people,'' Rooney said in a 60 Minutes commentary on CBS. ``Most of us are never going to blow anything up, and there's got to be something better than one of photo IDs -- a tattoo somewhere, maybe.

``I wouldn't mind having something planted permanently in my arm that would identify me.''

tommy thompson has been chipped, hes being going to schools to tell the kids to all get one.