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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:44 AM
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'Able Danger' Stopped From Informing FBI (Now it is on AP)
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Sept-11-Hijackers.html

ugust 17, 2005
'Able Danger' Stopped From Informing FBI
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 8:08 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he does not believe the 9/11 commission pressed hard enough for documentation of claims that military intelligence found a U.S.-based terrorist cell that included Mohamed Atta, who turned out to be the leader of the Sept. 11 attacks, prior to the terrorist strikes.

''I don't believe they ever got all the documents, but then again I don't think that they pressed properly to get all of the documents,'' Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer said on CBS' ''The Early Show.''

He says he was associated with a small intelligence unit, called ''Able Danger,'' that had identified Atta and three of the other future Sept. 11 hijackers as al-Qaida members by mid-2000.

..more at link

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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:50 AM
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1. More evidence
that 911 was allowed to happen by our own Government.
The ultimate act of Treason.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:53 AM
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2. This is becoming an interesting story. Rep. Weldon did his
best earlier in the week to blame Clinton, but Lt. Col. Shaffer says the 9-11 Commission didn't seem to want to follow through with the claims of Atta being identified early on. Why? Could it be that the Bush administration would have to explain why Atta was here for none year and no one followed through? I'd like to know who on the commission was given the info of Atta and sat on it.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 07:58 AM
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3. Ahem..Two Questions to Shut-up the Clenis Blamers
One: Who was pretzledent on September the 11TH, 2001.

Two: Did I miss something, or was Bill Clinton still on the distribution list for Presidential Daily Briefings on August the 6TH, 2001.
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:06 AM
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5. I don't think we need
any more evidence that supports the facts that the leads that were followed by field personnel were ignored by management, be it the CIA, FBI, DOD, or the military. I can understand one agency blocking investigations, but all of them at or around the same time?
Clearly, someone gave the order from the top to ignore and obstruct any leads that might shed light on what was to happen in September 2001.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:40 AM
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9. I think we need to do exactly that.
Scream it from the rooftops. Bush let our nation get attacked on purpose. BUSH KNEW ! BUSH LET IT HAPPEN ON PURPOSE !!!!! LIHOP.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:34 AM
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7. Was this report still around once W took office?
Just wondering. Seems no one in the media has asked that question (or have been allowed to).
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ChrisK Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:03 AM
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4. Why does Lt. Col.Shaffer hate freedom?
Edited on Wed Aug-17-05 08:04 AM by ChrisK
I have a feeling that that will be the question on many minds on the right as soon as they see his comments.

What really gets me is the folks on the right we're what I called the "Question bragad"..all they did was ask "why" when it was the Democrats in charge but the minute a Republican is calling the shots they seem to have forgotten their "need to know"....What happened?

No one, hard-left or right should be so blind...we ALL need to be leary of whats happening when ANYONE is in charge..no matter how much you like them, always ask "why"...just to be sure, before its too late.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:27 AM
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6. now cnn
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:36 AM
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8. Tin foil, it's not just for crazies anymore.
Most people should realize by now that lives are not a consideration to the neocons and PNACers who have subverted the Constitution, assured the murder of tens of thousands of innocents in Iraq, raided the US Treasury and made laws of, for and by corporations. It would be shortsighted to assume anything is beyond them as they usurp what was once America.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:24 AM
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10. I seen a Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer interview on CNN today
The boy struck me as someone whose elevator doesn't quite make it to the top floor. Just saying.

Don
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:30 AM
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11. Was not Gen Tommy Franks *running* Special Operations Command then??
They said the terrorist info never left that organization.

Correct?

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:19 AM
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14. Yes Tommy, I'll look for bin forgotten in Iraq, was in charge
of that command at the time. :grr:

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:41 AM
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12. I'm skeptical
Sounds to me more like Atta was an agent of another govt. organization.
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:48 AM
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13. Probably an agent for...


the agency who wired him 100,000$ the day before 9/11...

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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 11:47 AM
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15. NSA
The "No Such Agency"

You want secrets...now that is a secret hands in the pudding organization. Nobody seems to mention these guys much when it comes to 911...

Where the hell were they?

Organizing it?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 08:43 PM
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16. doubtful; IIRC they're dedicated to data collection
The DIA and ONI are better guesses for black ops, but the CIA is not entirely out of the question esp. given the ISI payoff.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 09:40 PM
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17. Probably another battle not worth fighting.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-05 10:02 PM
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18. Why is there nothing about bushite where-a-bouts?
A former member of the Commission, Richard Ben-Veniste, the former Watergate
prosecutor, yesterday called on the Pentagon hand over all the information that the
Army possessed about Atta and the other hijackers.

"If these assertions are credible," said Mr Ben-Veniste, "the Pentagon would need to
explain why it was that the 9/11 commissioners were not provided this information
despite requests for all information regarding Able Danger."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1739204,00.html
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:05 AM
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19. Illegal data-mining probably reason for cover-up
The most obvious reason no one (dems or repubs) wants this out there is that the military was collecting data on U.S. citizens and legal residents. The reference is to "data mining" from supposedly public sources that exposed these guys. My bet is that it was not just public data but many other, illegal sources that were being mined and no one wants that to come to light.
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