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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:37 PM
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Iran is building secret nuclear components, says rebel group(The Guardian)
(Sound familiar ? How long do you think it's going to be before the WH Picks this up and Runs with it?)

Iran is building secret nuclear components, says rebel group


Ian Traynor
Friday August 19, 2005
The Guardian

Iranian opposition activists said yesterday that Tehran was rushing to build nuclear components in breach of its commitments to the UN. The National Council of Resistance of Iran, the political wing of the outlawed Mujahideen-e-Khalq guerrilla movement, which is classified as a terrorist organisation in Europe and the US, said the Iranian authorities were covertly building and concealing thousands of centrifuge rigs used to enrich uranium for nuclear fuel or weapons.

The NCRI regularly makes claims about Iran's nuclear operations which are impossible to corroborate. But three years ago it was the first to disclose secret Iranian centrifuge operations in Natanz. Those allegations turned out to be largely true and triggered the international crisis over Iran's nuclear activities that has been running for two years.

Under agreements with the International Atomic Energy Agency and the EU troika of Britain, Germany, and France, Iran halted operations at Natanz where, for 18 years, it was clandestinely developing a uranium enrichment facility entailing the manufacture and assembly of tens of thousands of centrifuges.

<http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1552183,00.html?gusrc=rss>
(more at link above)

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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:38 PM
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1. Deja vu
:crazy:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:41 PM
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3. I don't think that even the Republicans will buy this swill
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:42 PM by Dhalgren
again - especially with China and Russia saying, "Don't even think about it."
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:20 PM
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17. "Curveball" is now an Iranian opposition activist, huh?
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 10:21 PM by TahitiNut
:crazy:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:12 AM
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27. Deja vu
all over again as Yogi would say.

Except that, unlike Iraq, this is something the current Israeli government would be deeply interested in.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:40 PM
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2. PLEASE tell me that this country is not stupid enough ...
to fall for this shit again! :eyes:
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:49 PM
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4. Hi Genie!
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:49 PM by ovidsen
This report may or may not be true. But it's just a matter of time before Iran (or North KOrea for that matter) has the Bomb. It's too late to plug the bottle, the Genie is out.

My big fear is that the US will use this report, and others like it, an an excuse to attack Iran, which would be doomed. The US can't contain Iraq, and Iran has 3 times the people. An Iran invasion would be a lost cause.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:51 PM
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6. The last report I read said Iran was 10 years away from a bomb.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:50 PM
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20. That was said about Iraq too, and now look where we are.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:52 PM
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32. I Agree, at this point...
...I wouldn't put anything past these douchebags. :evilfrown:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:53 PM
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7. What if their plan is just to blow them to smithereens?
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:53 PM by JDPriestly
That would solve the invasion problem in one respect and be devastating in many others -- such as the damage to the Iranian people, not to mention their economy including their oil production facilities. I would not put such a move beyond Bush and company.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:59 PM
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10. Bush has been dying to nuke someone since he took office
We all seem to have forgotten his infamous memo declaring he could use first strike nuclear attacks on seven different countries. Iran and North Korea were on that list. Bush is just dying to become immortal so he can finally beat his daddy at something.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:59 PM
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11. I Think They Have One (Or Two) Already
Purchased from Pakistan or North Korea.

AQ Khan pulled the stopper from the bottle.

Actually heard an NPR host (actually a Poly Sci professor at a State university) say that the US may have to act (against Iran) to prevent the 'Muslim' bomb. Show ended before I could call in and ask what the official name of Pakistan was.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:49 PM
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5. Echos of Ahmed Chalabi methinks. In the next installment
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 09:51 PM by joemurphy
we'll hear about the aluminum tubes, mobile labs, and killer drones that can be armed, airborne, and bound for the US on 45 minutes notice.

Thankfully, Judy Miller's in jail at the moment, so we won't have her investigative reporting on the issue to concern us.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:10 PM
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15. Our gov't. will be giving them $9 million soon.
Isn't that the amount we gave to Chalabi? (One of the amounts. When he was heading some exile organization called I.N.F. or something.)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:13 PM
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16. Same old lies being recycled by another "exile" community
The biggest difference, as you pointed out, is that Judith Miller is currently indisposed behind bars.

Attack Iran, and the Shias in Iraq will vent their rage on our troops.
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:55 PM
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8. What color will this sponsored revolution be?
Let's brand this thing and move on to the next regime we can call our own.


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 09:56 PM
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9. I'll need to see that mushroom cloud smoking gun this time, thank you very
much, Mr. Bush. I won't believe anything anyone says if it supports anything Bush wants to do.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:52 PM
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21. Or would that be a mushroom smoking gun...:)
:eyes:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 11:30 PM
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23. Mushroom smoking president, you mean?
Though I suspect with his facial ticks and jaw twitches, he's started the cocaine again.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:51 AM
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30. I wish he would EAT
some mushrooms. Might help his brain a bit, I would think. ..... but on second thought, he might just talk to 'God' some more. Hey Bush*t, you been talkin' to dat God guy again?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:01 PM
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12. Yea h right.....
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:02 PM
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13. So if the KKK said the US was building a Death Star, should China believe?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:54 PM
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22. Great question.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:05 PM
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14. The thing needing to be emphasized...
... is that the Iranians have, all along, said they've wanted to enrich their own fuel (and this makes sense in that it cuts out one potential bottleneck in reactor fuel supply chain) and that the same equipment can be used for either reactor fuel enrichment or enrichment of uranium for bombs.

Many want to see its status as an NPT treaty signatory as a shield and a ruse, but it has to be recognized that trying to carry out a nuclear weapons program as a signatory is infinitely more difficult than for a non-signatory (see Pakistan, India and Israel in particular in this regard).

We're going to see and hear a lot more of this sort of thing in the coming months, so it's particularly important to recognize what's a serious and documented turn of events, and what's just propagandizing.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:22 PM
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18. Yeah, right....
I'll bet this Iranian opposition activist's info is about as reliable as Ahmad Chalabi's was.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 10:49 PM
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19. Did chalabi move to Iran?
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 01:22 AM
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24. There is no way the Pentagon will attack Iran, even by air.
That would be like poking a finger into a beehive. If Iran wanted to, it could really make things get hot in Iraq. Up to now, the Pentagon has only had the Sunnis to worry about.

If we start bombing Tehran, the reluctant tolerance the Iraqi Shiites have for our troops will disappear in a heartbeat. The Green Zone would be overrun with a million furious Shiites.
Plus our SUVs won't like it. That's 2 million barrels of oil off the market right there, not to mention the oil from Iran.



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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:04 AM
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25. Ahhh. The old opposition trick.
Wonder how long it will take the CCCP ( Corporate Controlled Conservative Press ) to take up the banner of *'s latest crusade. . .

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:12 AM
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26. It's like deja vu all over again! n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:28 AM
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28. The Iranians have every right to defend themselves. eom.
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democracy eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 06:33 AM
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29. Bolton is in place
time to start Operation "Keep Iranian Gas Away from China"

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:45 PM
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31. kick n/t
:kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:53 PM
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33. It's deja vu
all over again. Will our new government fall for this again? Or should I say, use this again?
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