Schwarzenegger Urged to Declare Emergency

[sintax]

Schwarzenegger Urged to Declare Emergency


Friday August 19, 2005 6:01 PM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - The state Assembly leader called on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to make California the third state to declare an emergency along its border with Mexico.

New Mexico drew national attention last week when its governor declared a state of emergency, citing lawlessness, drug smuggling and human trafficking along the border. The governor of Arizona did the same this week.

Democratic Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez said Thursday that California needs to pressure the federal government to stop drug running and illegal immigration.

``The timing is good,'' he said. ``The governors of Arizona and New Mexico have done this, and there's an opportunity for three states to have a joint effort in lobbying the federal government.''

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5221037,00.html

[bertha katzenengel]

1. Is THAT what the declaration of a state of emergency is for?

For united lobbying? :puke:

[sniffa]

2. this Looks Like a job for the minutemen!

insert that picture that used to be in NSMA's sig.

[Megahurtz]

3. Emergency?

Uh - huh.:eyes:

[sintax]

4. The Romas, The Gypsies, The Jews- The Other

Fencing "Them" out means "Us" is fenced in.


"To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it - please try to believe me - unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop.  Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, "regretted," that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these "little measures" that no "patriotic German" could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing.  One day it is over his head.

[stopbush]

5. Ah-nold himself is an illegal alien who has remained in this

country despite a 25-yr-old visa violation.

If this measure means he has to go, then I'm all for it.

[wli]

6. besides, he's wanted for murder in Austria n/t

[doodadem]

8. Again--WHAT?!

Please elaborate!

[wli]

13. it has to do with signing off on executions as governor of California

I don't have a reference (in fact, I thought this was well-known), but basically those count as murder in Austria.

[Stand and Fight]

9. Yes, elaborate!

You cannot post that without expounding on it.

[stopbush]

12. Here's more:

Schwarzenegger May Have Violated Terms Of Non-Immigrant Visa

Schwarzenegger entered the United States in 1968 on a B-1 visa, which allows a select group of visitors, such as training athletes, to come into the United States for brief periods of business. Under this rule, “a non-immigrant in B-1 status may not receive a salary from a U.S. source for services rendered in connection with his or her activities in the United States.” However, the rules do allow immigrants to receive “actual reasonable expenses,” such as money for food and hotel rooms.



In his 1977 autobiography, Schwarzenegger stated that he worked out an agreement with Joe Weider to come to America. Under this agreement, Schwarzenegger provided Weider information about how he trained, while Weider provided Schwarzenegger with an apartment, a car, and payment of a weekly salary. Weider stated earlier this month that the weekly salary was $200. Last week, a spokesman for Schwarzenegger said that he was only paid $65 per week. At the end of last week, Weider stated that he could not remember the details of the business deal.



After questioning about half-dozen immigration attorneys on whether this payment would have been allowable, the Mercury News reported that his visa would likely have been barred under these circumstances. However, some attorneys noted the more rigorous application procedures that are now present for the immigration process. In the 1960s, the procedures were much more lax than they are now.



Schwarzenegger attorney Tom Hiltachk said Schwarzenegger received an H-2 visa, which allowed him to work in this country, in November 1969 – after more than a year in the United States. He became a permanent resident in 1974 and a citizen in 1983. In addition, Schwarzenegger’s new ad campaign on a Spanish-language radio station announces his humble beginnings in America as a bricklayer. Several immigration attorneys also believe that he violated the terms of his H-2 work visa by launching this bricklaying business in 1971. According to further reports by the Mercury News, immigration attorneys across the country said Schwarzenegger would have been barred by visa restrictions from starting his own business. Moreover, there is no record that Schwarzenegger and the Italian bodybuilder that he paired up with ever received a required state contractor’s license.



In addition, following this latest immigration issue, Hiltachk said it is unclear what type of visa Schwarzenegger had when he started the bricklaying business. But whether Schwarzenegger had an H-2 or another temporary visa, immigration attorneys said, the bodybuilder would have been barred from doing any work as a bricklayer or handyman. “If they come into the United States to pick tomatoes, they can’t go out and work at McDonald’s,” said Nancy Alby, an assistant center director at the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Naturalization Services, who spoke in general about H-2 visas and did not comment specifically on Schwarzenegger’s case. “They have to do exactly what they were let into the United States to do.”



http://www.visalaw.com/03sep4/15sep403.html

[opihimoimoi]

10. He was a Panty thief?? Reports of stealing panties off clothes lines

came from neighbors back in Austria.....lol.

[cliss]

15. Wow. You find the most amazing things in

unobtrusive posts. Please elaborate on this.

Also, Stop Bush, please give us more juicy details on this.

[wli]

16. looks like the Austrian govt. was merely petitioned for such charges

Searching for "Schwarzenegger murder Austria site:bbc.co.uk" (no quotes in google textbox) doesn't dig up formal charges, only petitioning for such charges to be filed.

[doodadem]

7. WHAT?!

Please elaborate.

[stopbush]

11. Here ya go:

As the San Jose Mercury News reported on 9/21/03, immigration attorneys agreed that when Schwarzenegger first immigrated to the United States, he "most likely violated the terms of his work visa." In interviews over the years, Schwarzenegger has said he joined forces with an Italian bodybuilder to rebuild damaged homes after the deadly Sylmar earthquake jolted Southern California. But immigration attorneys across the country said Schwarzenegger would have been barred by visa restrictions from starting his own business. That revelation followed an earlier discovery that Schwarzenegger might have violated his visa in 1968 as well.

When asked about this hypocrisy, Schwarzenegger aides "declined to make the candidate available for an interview" and then refused to release Schwarzenegger's immigration records. Maybe he should take a cue from his campaign, start once again keeping his mouth shut, and stop trying to appeal to his radical right-wing base by attacking immigrants.

http://www.davidsirota.com/2005/04/alleged-visa-violator-bashes.html

[flordehinojos]

14. who,

picks our lettuce
out of the lettuce patch,

our oranges and grapefruits
out of the orange groves,

who
works for pennies in our american soil,
while corporate bossess pocket paper money untold?

who
works without benefits
of insurance
vacation days,
workman's compensation

who?

the wetbacks

that is

who!

[Robert Oak]

18. open/closed border

isn't going to influence worker rights one bit for seasonal ag. workers, illegal or not.

Guest worker VISAs are highly suspect to maintain the status quo of using illegals to work for nothing and they will take these jobs because they are absolutely desperate due to the poverty in their home country
or even worse, escaping drug and other violence.

Another aspect to all of this is NAFTA/CAFTA. Those trade policies are outsourcing agreements. The standard of living S. of the border declined after these agreements came into play.

Trade needs to "raise up" not further repress workers in order to stop
this "unlimited worker movement" that increases the race to the bottom
and erodes workers rights globally and enables multinational corporations to depress wages further and put those profits in their own executive pockets.

[Selteri]

21. I have nothing against legal immagrants

I just want to see the option where I CAN get a job, not where my job is given away to someone who is payed below miimum wage.

[Robert Oak]

17. what this tells you

for all screaming "racist" constantly this should tell you it's a very real problem.

If Democrats don't come up with a policy that is based on labor economics 101 and is for the working people in this nation, they are going to lose once again in 2006.

It's really time to stop this absurd "racist" mantra and get real about policy recommendations.

[goforit]

19. Time for states to stand independently from Bush!!

Bush has no interest in stopping the drug trade.

[Selteri]

22. Of course he doesn't

the drug trade stands in the way of his getting it sniffy bottle of coke.

[Pewlett Hackard]

20. heh

immigration is a touchy subj for the govenator. in any case the govenors are farting in the hurricane on this issue. congress wont piss off business by endangering the supply of cheap labor, unless we start voting them out of office over this issue (in my dreams).

[bliss_eternal]

23. Why is it an emergency NOW? This is nothing new--

this has been occuring for many years.

Is it an emergency now because this administration is encouraging a sense of intolerance toward everyone? Or is it truly an emergency?

I don't get the sense that being illegal is a great life with a great many benefits. Always having to look over your shoulder, the inability to report any crimes committed against you because you aren't recognized as a citizen and risk deportation. Or those lovely, less than minimum wage jobs--yes that's the reason! Ding, ding, ding--we've got a winner. :sarcasm:

I'm not saying that it isn't a problem, because it is. A serious one, putting citizens AND the illegal immigrants at risk for issues too numerous for my puny brain to expound at this moment. But I am trying to understand what it is that is suddenly making this an emergency, right now...

And what the heck is going on in Mexico that makes so many want to bail? Seriously, I sincerely don't know...

:shrug:

[Fire Walk With Me]

24. Just take care to note if he sneaks anything else into the Instant Law.

[jody]

25. If an emergency is declared, CA could activate its State Defense Force.

It's part of the unorganized militia. See California State Military Reserve (CA SMR) authorized by United States Code and the California Military and Veteran’s Code.