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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:39 PM
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(Australian) Troops undergo extreme torture training

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=58476

Troops undergo extreme torture training

Elite Australian soldiers are being blindfolded, stripped naked and threatened by savage dogs during extreme torture training exercises.

The regime has been approved at the highest level of government and is about to be upgraded in response to the threat from enemies who do not abide by the Geneva Conventions, the Weekend Australian newspaper reports.

Defence Minister Robert Hill confirmed that soldiers were threatened with physical and sexual abuse during simulated interrogation sessions at the Defence Intelligence Training Centre in Queensland.

"When approved by the exercise director, working military dogs that are muzzled and short-leashed may be used during advanced RTI (resistance to interrogation) training, in the presence of RTI trainees (including naked trainees) on order to create realism," Senator Hill said in a written response to a parliamentary question.



These methods sound familiar?
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parsnips Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:41 PM
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1. Yes. Same stuff our soldiers have been put thru by the bastards
trying to kill us.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:43 PM
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4. So you admit it
Bush and Rumsfled are trying to kill U.S. troops? It's about time.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:44 PM
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5. welcome to DU!
Please further explain: "bastards trying to kill us" ?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:57 PM
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9. He must have had two windows open and typed his message on
the wrong board.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:00 PM
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11. You don't think it is an Iraqi?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:05 PM
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13. Wellllll, it could be, not ruling out the possibility!!!
:toast:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:44 PM
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6. The bastards trying to kill you don't come from Iraq.
Just sayin'.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:56 PM
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8. Wow, an Iraqi is posting here. Welcome to DU
May your stay be peaceful and productive. I really hate what Mr.bush is doing to your country and am working hard at trying to stop it. Where in Iraq are you from?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:22 PM
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16. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
:rofl: :thumbsup:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:42 PM
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2. How come? Aren't we on their side? n/t
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:43 PM
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3. Yes, our elite troops too. My son-in-law just went through it. No picnic!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:51 PM
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7. The Australian/SAS naked and bound in training
AUSTRALIAN soldiers are being blindfolded, stripped naked and menaced by savage dogs for up to three hours in extreme training exercises to prepare them to resist torture.The intensive regime, approved at the highest level of government, is about to be upgraded in response to the growing threat from enemies who do not respect the rules of the Geneva Conventions.

Defence Minister Robert Hill has confirmed interrogators are authorised to use threats of physical and sexual abuse during simulated interrogation sessions at the Defence Intelligence Training Centre at Canungra, near the Gold Coast.

"When approved by the exercise director, working military dogs that are muzzled and short-leashed may be used during advanced RTI (resistance to interrogation) training, in the presence of RTI trainees (including naked trainees), in order to create realism," Senator Hill said in a written response to a parliamentary question from federal Labor MP Daryl Melham.

The use of guard dogs by US soldiers at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib jail last year to intimidate Iraqi prisoners provoked worldwide outrage and led to prosecutions of American personnel.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16320916%255E601,00.html
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:57 PM
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10. Aren't civilians going to need this "training"? nt
(I wish it was sarcasm)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:01 PM
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12. they anticipate being captured by U.S. troops?
:shrug:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:06 PM
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14. Too damn funny!! Well said! nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:21 PM
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15. Convenient. Training both the torturees and the torturers.
Are they using American advisors? :eyes:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:26 PM
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18. Good point.
This way they get to train soldiers how to torture, as a "side benefit" of training the others how to withstand torture.

Rather like developing biological weapons in order to find vaccines, "in case one is attacked".
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 04:34 PM
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17. "enemies who do not abide by the Geneva Conventions"
Hmmmm. So what nation has arbitrarily reinterpreted the Conventions or contemptuously dismissed them as "quaint?"

Sounds like the Aussies are preparing for war with those guys.
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:37 PM
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19. not surprising really
as the Australian government is about the only government that 100 per cent agrees with the US regimes tactics at Guantanamo Bay.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:40 PM
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20. This must STOP.
It's bullshit and MUST STOP.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 05:51 PM
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21. "threat from enemies who do not abide by the Geneva Conventions"
Nothing like a little rationalization to get the self righteous juices flowing...

Why bother with honor and integrity when you can torture people!









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