MSNBC: Iraq insurgents plan wave of attacks

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Iraq insurgents plan wave of attacks
Intelligence points to suicide bombings to coincide with draft constitution.

PENTAGON - United States and foreign intelligence officials tell NBC News they have credible intelligence that insurgents in Iraq have active plans to launch a massive offensive early next week — timed to coincide with the possible draft of an Iraqi constitution on Monday.

According to the officials, terrorists would launch as many as 20 simultaneous suicide bombings, mostly in Baghdad. The plans also include heavy rocket and mortar attacks against U.S. and Iraqi government offices inside Baghdad’s Green Zone, against U.S. military at Baghdad International Airport, and at Abu Ghraib prison.

U.S. officials say the offensive was planned for early this week, but was put on hold when Iraqi’s failed to come up with a draft constitution.


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[tuvor]

1. They're not insurgents.

They're pissed-off Iraqi citizens.

[oldtime dfl_er]

3. Thanks for pointing that out

It angers me when people forget that the United States CREATED the "insurgency".

[arcane1]

10. at least they didn't call them "terrorists"

this time, anyway

[brentspeak]

28. They're Iraqi citizens...who are also killers n/t

[manic expression]

46. No....they are fighting an occupation

that is justified and within their rights. They are fighting for their country against a foreign invader. That's like saying the Polish citizens who fought against the Germans in Warsaw were simply "killers".

US troops, however, kill without justification.

[oldtime dfl_er]

2. Isn't this basically what Sy Hersh said

on the Daily Show? As usual, he's right.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/654252

[Eloriel]

9. Exactly what I was going to say -- Hersch certainly got MY attn

the other night when he said they were planning what amounted to a "Tet Offensive."

For anyone who lived thru the Vietnam war, those words carry quite a bit of meaning.

And in that case, those "death throes" Cheney talked about aren't for their side.

[krkaufman]

40. Wasn't it after the Tet Offensive that Cronkite declared the war....

... unwinnable?

[Cocoa]

15. I knew I heard this somewhere

I should have known it was on the Daily Show.

[bluestateguy]

4. Now that it's been made public it may not happen

They operate on the element of surprise and own their own timetable.

[Bumblebee]

8. yes, and then Pentagon will take credit for thwarting it

that's why they are spreading the word. If it happens -- they told us so; if it does not, they prevented it. Heads, they win, tails they also win.

[Jackpine Radical]

24. How does having relatively vague knowledge that it's coming

enable you to stop it?

It's not like they're gonna announce the specific targets in advance. We're presumably already doing everything we can to stop attacks, and we aren't notably successful against just the ordinary daily level of violence.

[whatelseisnew]

5. MSNBC is a little late , seems like the wave is already crashing

it has been a deadly vaction for **

[sniffa]

13. nope, it's gonna get much worse

:(

[natrat]

45. white house just got around to writing msnbc script

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. If not next week, then later on. They have all the time in the world.

[indepat]

7. Some last throes

[niallmac]

38. I don't think you understand 'throes'

You see, there are known throes, throes that we know. Then there are unknown throes. These of course are throes we don't know. But then there are the unknown unknown throes. These are the throes we don't know we don't know...you know? So, it's those last ones we are currently dealing with. How many are there? Don't know. In fact, I don't even know I don't know so quit asking.

[indepat]

44. Think I finally got it!

[KansDem]

49. "No one knows the throes I've seen..."

I think she's got it. By George, she's got it!"

[deadparrot]

11. Well, I feel bathed in the warm glow of Iraqi love...

don't you all?

[sniffa]

12. so sy hersh was speaking the truth on TDS

[Cocoa]

16. he said something about a takeover of Baghdad

and an assault on the Green Zone.

[sniffa]

18. baghdad was aLready taken over by shiite miLitia

weee!

[Roland99]

26. Hersh spoke back in March that the insurgents had infiltrated the Gov't.

[NYC]

20. Do you have any more details?

Thanks in advance.

[Warren Stupidity]

23. sure the detailed plans are on the internets. eom.

[NYC]

35. I meant details about the Sy Hersh interview.

[krkaufman]

41. Watch the interview here...

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/celebrity_interviews/index.jhtml

[NYC]

52. Thank you.

[bribri16]

14. You mean they haven't had a wave of attacks yet? n/t

[Roland99]

17. What the hell kind of crap is THIS??

"U.S. officials say the offensive was planned for early this week, but was put on hold when Iraqi’s failed to come up with a draft constitution."


If the U.S. intelligence knows THAT much, why don't they go in and arrest them all. They obviously know who is involved.



Fucking media falls for and prints that shit all the time.

[sniffa]

19. weLL obviousLy...

the insurgents hate freedom and want to undermine democracy so of course they're gonna try to disrupt the constitution bLah bLah bLah..

[Warren Stupidity]

22. They obviously don't hate us for our freedoms

as we have given them all up and they still don't like us.

[mmonk]

34. LOL

[StrafingMoose]

27. Read my post #25

:D

[howmad1]

30. Yea, just like.....

....they knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. What a crock of shit. Problem is the sheeple will believe it.

[gasperc]

47. agreed, this is like the color threat level shit

make think they'll attack, and when they don't we are all relieved

[Warren Stupidity]

21. Who'd've thunk?

Wow, our intelligence community is really going out on a limb here. :sarcasm:





One of these days the Green Zone is going to go :nuke:.

[StrafingMoose]

25. Depending on what the consitution would mean...

for Saudi, Pakistani, US and British interest in Iraq I'd say that if they know when they will launch a 'massive offensive', that's because the Coalition is launching this wave themselve to have changes in the constitution that will protect exclusive oil concessions in Iraq.

After all, they trained guys for that

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201579.html

[Roland99]

29. There's a lot of orchestration going on, that's for sure.

[meisje]

31. File under "No Shit Sherlock"

[Lindacooks]

37. No kidding. There's a headline they could leave on newspapers

all over the country as long as we're mired in Iraq - it's the same news every week, because it's happening constantly and showing no signs of abating.

[killbotfactory]

32. I thought they rean out of plans and were going to stop attacking...

huh...

[are_we_united_yet]

33. "Insurgents" are mistaken.

They are in their last throes, don't 'cha know?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

36. Gen. Richard B. Myers: "Abu Ghraib Photos Could Spark Riots"

Looks like them Washington boys had better keep a tight lid on them photos 'n' videos for a while...at LEAST until after Monday.

:grr:

http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/archive.html?wire=D8BV9FSG0.html

August 13,2005 | NEW YORK -- Releasing photos and videotapes of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison would aid al-Qaida recruitment, weaken governments in Iraq and Afghanistan and incite riots against U.S. troops, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff warned in court papers.

Gen. Richard B. Myers wrote in recently unsealed court papers filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan that it was "probable that al-Qaida and other groups will seize upon these images and videos as grist for their propaganda mill."

In a response to the arguments by Myers, the ACLU submitted a declaration by retired U.S. Army Col. Michael E. Pheneger, who said Myers "mistakes propaganda for motivation."

Pheneger, a military intelligence officer from 1963 to 1993, said that Iraqi insurgents average 70 attacks a day and that they "will continue regardless of whether the photos and tapes are released."

[progressivebydesign]

39. How could we tell the difference from everyday life there? n/t

[wanpete]

42. This is conjecture to prepare us for the bloodshed to come...

they probably have no credible evidence. But they know it's going to be a bloodbath so they are trying to desensitize us now by "reporting" this story.

[go west young man]

43. Looks like civil war will go full scale soon.

They want U.S. hands off thier oil.

[RetroLounge]

48. Can you say Tet?

What a clusterf*ck this is...

RL

[rocktivity]

50. A wave of attacks?

Compared to what the insurgents have been doing for the past three years?

:eyes:
rocknation

[sakabatou]

51. Last throws my ass.