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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:06 AM
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NORAD drops terms
First the sports teams ....

PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colorado Springs, Colo. - The word ''warrior'' is out, and ''phantom'' is in. The term ''brave'' has been replaced by ''dart,'' and ''Indian'' has been changed to ''sabre.''

As in ''sabre rattling,'' another term for military exercises.

The U.S. Northern Command and the North American Aerospace Defense Command recently changed the names of some of their key military exercises to drop words that American Indians may find insulting or degrading.

NORAD, whose mission is to thwart terrorist air attacks over North America, unintentionally jumped into the ''political correctness'' fray just as the national battle heated up over Indian nicknames and ''mascots'' as sports symbols.

more...

http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096411424
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:09 AM
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1. Did it used to be called "Indian Rattling" or something?
I could see how that might be considered objectionable.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:11 AM
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3. I think so although I've never heard such a term used ...
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:10 AM
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2. "thwart terrorist air attacks " - Gee that one worked on 911 real well.
"NORAD, whose mission is to thwart terrorist air attacks over North America"

This statement is a lie - NORAD was established to provide us with early warning of a Soviet nuke missle attack.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:18 AM
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4. I though it was for heavy bombers from russia, which makes it even more
useless. Somehow, Atta knew just how to foil all those idiotic cold war defenses. All those worthless "defenses" are still in place -and a lot more.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:22 AM
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5. That too. But they also practiced against "jets a s weapons" pre 911
NORAD had drills of jets as weapons

By Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm>
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties

One of the imagined targets was the World Trade Center. In another exercise, jets performed a mock shootdown over the Atlantic Ocean of a jet supposedly laden with chemical poisons headed toward a target in the United States. In a third scenario, the target was the Pentagon — but that drill was not run after Defense officials said it was unrealistic, NORAD and Defense officials say.

.....Basically NORAD is useless.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:25 AM
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6. Licey said that they never dreamed of that scenario
Oh, well another lie put to rest. Wonder what the budget is for those idiots.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 01:57 AM
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7. It failed worse than miserably ...so who cares if they are PC now...
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 10:09 AM
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8. Wish they'd stop chasing Santa Claus around
To me this is a flagrant violation of the separation of church and state

http://www.noradsanta.org/

Maybe one of the reasons they didn't protect us September 11? What, is all of their radar trained on the North Pole?

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