Diebold hires top Dem for PR blitz

[journalist3072]

Diebold hires top Dem for PR blitz

Former party chairman make the case for voting to California
By Ian Hoffman, STAFF WRITER

With a phone call and a retainer, Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell has launched former Democratic National Committee chairman Joe Andrew on a 50-state ambassadorship for electronic voting.
O'Dell said he ``wanted to reframe some of the issues,'' Andrew said.

His first stop: California, the nation's largest market for voting machines and the place where Diebold's fortunes as the largest supplier of electronic-voting machines in the nation could be made or broken.

``Even if you have tremendous success every place else,'' said Andrew, ``if you can't sell technology in California, you're in trouble.''

The rest of the voting industry is selling technology here. Millions in federal dollars sit ready for counties to put at least one high-tech, handicapped-accessible voting machine in every polling place by January.

But in California, Diebold can't sell its touchscreen voting machine, the AccuVote TSx, nor can counties that bought thousands of the machines in 2003 used them in elections.

The entire article can be found at: http://www.insidebayarea.com/localnews/ci_2958901

[msgadget]

1. Ya just can't make this stuff up -eom-

[Bluebear]

2. Lovely. nt

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

3. Corporate sell out hoes of america, meet the DLC......

Could it be that all the DLC are in bed with them? I'm sure its true....

http://www.answers.com/topic/2004-u-s-presidential-election-controversy-voting-machines

[KittyWampus]

5. DLC? Why Are You Mentioning The DLC? The Article Said DNC Chair

while this totally sucks, it's sad that DU'ers persist in this kneejerk reactionary crap about the boogieman DLC.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. DLC boogieman?

He won't kill ya but he'll keep you from doing anything productive.

Call me crazy but I always check under the bed.

[annabanana]

21. He FOUNDED the Indiana chapter of the DLC,,,,

right out there in public and everything... not hiding it or anything

[bearfan454]

25. DLC = repuke lite = LOST ELECTIONS !

Ask Terry McCauliff. These people are professional election losers.

[Peace Patriot]

43. SEE the other post on this--which has 28 votes and much discussion, and

names names. At

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4408897

It's not just the DLC. It's the DNC, and the entrenched Dem election officials around the country who have sold our right to vote to BUSHITE voting machine companies--and their SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote 'tabulation' software--for lavish lobbying perks, future job offers and the heady power of brokering big business deals (OUR VOTE!).

Andrew is NOT an anomaly. He is typical. The entire DNC--Donna Brazile, Terry MacAuliffe--was in on this corruption. It is UNBELIEVABLE. DEMOCRATS agreeing to BUSHITE COMPANIES CONTROLLING THE VOTE TABULATION!

For a long time I thought our Dem Party leadership was stupid or INSANE. Nope. Venal corruption, that's what it is.

We stumbled across it in California--with the mysterious destruction of our Sec of State Kevin Shelley (who had sued Diebold and decertified their crappy, hackable machines prior to the 2004 election). Chief architect of his demise: DEMOCRAT Connie McCormack, head of Los Angeles elections, who best friend (wines and dines and takes vacations with her) Deborah Siler was Diebold's top salesperson in Calif. McCormack is a shill for Diebold and PAPERLESS electronic voting.

We need to clean house. We need a BIG BROOM.

And we need to dump Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

[ooglymoogly]

44. i'll second that emotion

[Up2Late]

4. I think they should say EX-Democrat!

Anyone who goes to work for Diebold, especially in PR, should be Kicked out of the Democratic Party.:mad:

[rogue_bandit]

6. This explains a lot

A lot of the Dem failures that is. Seems like a plant. Here in Oregon we have some Republicans masquerading as Democrats...it disgusts me.

I think this is an example of a DNC chairman masquerading as a Democratic. No wonder we lost so many elections.

Go Dean!

[KittyWampus]

9. Stories Like This Make That A Distinct Possiblity.

[KittyWampus]

7. Guess It's Too Much To Wish For That Andrew Would Be A Double Agent

[Trillo]

8. Reframe this: "open source" and paper ballots. nt

[depakid]

10. The Dems are so far gone that I doubt they'll ever pull out of it

They've pretty much doomed themsleves to irrelevance- so maybe it's a good thing that they've become as corrupt as they are. My guess is that neither of the current parties is going to retain its prominance in the post Peak oil era.

And of course, this observation is not lost on the Greens....

[ooglymoogly]

45. you are forgetting the wild card innovation

nanotubes etc.

[Eloriel]

11. Aw, just shoot me.

Put me out of my misery.

This is insane, crazy-making, obscene, grotesque and nuts.

WHY DO WE EVEN FUCKING BOTHER TO HAVE CANDIDATES AND ELECTIONS? Let's just save all that money, all the time and effort, and GIVE it to them. All of it. And go roll over and play dumb and dead some more.

Oh, I forgot. Can't do that. People like Joe Andrews couldn't make any MONEY that way.

:puke:

:grr:

[Junkdrawer]

19. DLC. This post and the responses to the post are VERY interesting...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4408897&mesg_id=4409036

Don't miss cosmicdot's response...

[Pepperbelly]

12. When was this guy the chairman?

I don't even remember the name and I recall that Larry O'Brien was the chair during Nixon so ... when did I miss this guy?

[napi21]

15. I don't remember him either, so I looked it up.

Article on Google says he was elected in 1999. It even ahd his bicture, but I just don't remember him.

I can see Dibold doing this, but I can't see it making any difference if they don't add some auditable trail to their technology.

[meganmonkey]

13. Oh jeeeezus I need another bourbon

I can't even read this shit

:beer: (that may look like beer, but it's bourbon. and i am not smiling)

[Writer]

16. Sometimes people are just people filling roles

and not political affiliations.

[Sadie5]

18. Seems to me

that Andrew was chair, then resigned and McAuliff took over. Wasn't Andrew a friend of Evan Bayh?

[Ouabache]

29. was and most likely still is

AIAMNTBS....

[dweller]

17. Thank you! Thank you!

California.

now send that DINO packing.

dp

[saigon68]

35. Another DINO

So many---
So much time to expose them.

[54anickel]

20. "The humble man with the golden rolex" (chaired from 99-2001)

Not at the "top" of my list of Dems. He'd be right "down" there with "Jomentum" or whatever that idiot coined for himself.

http://www.leadingauthorities.com/13411/Joe_Andrew.htm

Joe, referred to as "the humble man with the golden rolodex" because of his friendships with CEOs and labor leaders across America, is a life-long Democrat who served as the Chair of the Indiana Democratic Party from 1995-1999. In both 1996 and 1998, Andrew led the Party to unprecedented state victories. Under his leadership, the Indiana Democratic Party raised more money per capita than any Democratic state party in the nation. As a member of the team led by Senator Evan Bayh and Governor Frank O'Bannon, Andrew helped Indiana elect more Democratic officeholders with fewer self-identified Democratic voters than any other state in America.

[Oilwellian]

26. Andrew is Evan Bayh's protege?

Enough said...Bayh is a Scaife plant.

This is such a slap in the face.

[Dover]

22. So Republicans are not the only ones who look upon "Liberals" with disdain

From 'Junkdrawers' DLC link, above:

It seems the DLC arm of the Democratic Party (also called "The New Democrats") which considers itself 'left center' would like to split off from the liberal roots of the 'old' Democratic Party. Clinton is the leader of this group and Kerry was their candidate.

After 15 years, the New Democratic project has succeeded to the degree that one defeat will not destroy it. Capitalizing on political defeat and emerging socioeconomic trends, the DLC and the New Democrats have offered the most durable and sustained effort to oppose the dominant liberal faction of their party. Establishing themselves outside of the party, guided by able policy entrepreneurs, and following a strategy that played to their faction's strengths, they have united the groups in the Democratic Party that disagreed with the party's dominant liberal philosophy into a potent intra-party force. Outside of the party, the New Democrat philosophy and policy agenda are now major factors in national debates on issues ranging from entitlement reform to law enforcement to education. Moreover, the DLC's philosophy can attract swing voters in competitive districts and states, the key to any hope the party has for recapturing the House and Senate.

Ultimately, it is success in winning such offices, plus a continuing hold on the presidency, that will institutionalize the New Democrat philosophy further. And with each victory, it will be harder and harder to return to the liberalism that preceded it.


Read on:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=127&subid=171&contentid=955

[depakid]

33. "And with each victory...."

What victories?

These guys are about as dishonest as Republicans... and just as delusional.

[Dover]

40. It was written while Clinton was still in office. My, how quickly things

can change....I doubt they feel as cocksure as they did when they wrote this. But they continue their attempts to blunt the voice of the 'liberal faction'.

[xxqqqzme]

54. yea, the continuing hold on the

presidency is pretty funny as well. Guess the all seeing, all powerful DLC didn't factor in rigging of electronic voting machines.

[TankLV]

41. Yeah - swing voters like racists and bigots and religious wackos.

Nice - just what WE need more of in the Democratic Party.

They can kiss me goodbye if THEY suceed.

Who need two repuke parties?

[Hekate]

23. Non-tekkies really do not understand the issue, do they?

Some people -- say, a raft of DUers -- should write the man and explain it to him in words of one syllable. I would suggest that we not assume the man has gone over to the Dark Side, but that he just doesn't have the right information.

Hekate

[Ouabache]

30. that could very well be...maybe he will give us a Diebold machine to

play with so we could prove it to him?

[hunter]

32. It would be a mistake to assume he is ignorant.

It will be very interesting to see what sort of audience he seeks here in California.

[tommcintyre]

53. I compiled a lot of info on him over-here - a summary:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x390070#390132
posts 6 thru 10, and 13, 14

Summary:
- From April, 2004- ""If California decides not to have touchscreen voting, no question, I think that will have a powerful effect on the rest of the nation," said Joseph J. Andrew, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee during the 2000 Florida recount."
snip
"If you decertify DREs we will be in court the next day," he warned.

"Every single big civil-rights group, every single disability group feels differently than this panel here," Andrew said.

"We have been talking about the individual problems of an individual vendor," he said of Diebold, "but the problem is, we are making precedential decisions on electronic voting here."

- July, 2004 - NYT: Andrew "condemning voting-machine paper trails"

- March, 2004 - "Andrew pooh-poohs questions about "rigged" elections as politics."

[nolabels]

24. If their systems were so good why would they need a PR lift?

Hey, and about that making or breaking, your busted Diebold x(

[oscar111]

27. FRANCE CANADA GRMANY ITALYppr ballots hnd cnted.RECMD 4 GREATEST PAGE

RECOMMEND FOR GREATEST PAGE, button at bottom of OP.
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PAPER BALLOTS HAND COUNTED in those nations ---->

results in one hour by counting at precinct level.

machines create crannies in which geniuses invent new ways to steal elections.. ways that you would never imagine to be possible

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toss all machines
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too many issues to hand count? do what those nations do -- more elections, so few issues each time. Could even have ONLY the prez as the ballot, for the prez election.
++++++++++++
FRANCE.. for details on how france does it.. PM the DU member called Toqueville.. gave excellent answers on another thread.

HAND COUNT-- many eyes watching -- no theft, tons cheaper. All those nations in the title have free doctors. Smarter than us, it seems, in both healthcare and vote systems.
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PARALLEL ELECTIONS -- see the thread below

RECOMMEND FOR GREATEST PAGE butt at bott of OP. thanks.

Democratic Underground - PARALLEL elections: exiting voters drop second ballot in second box

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x121987

[nolabels]

28. The rational contemplation of the minority that claims it's the majority.

Is to devise a mechanism insuring their hold on power. I would rather contemplate what will happen after they are inevitably tossed to the curb and some other group takes over. You can't solve the problem using the the same solutions. For years Democrats had the power to change the system to make it representational. Instead the leaders chose enhancing their position of power.

Now they are out in several ways and enhanced what really just a minority on whole, they are scratching their heads and saying what happened. What happened is the plan came back to bite them in the ass. It's probably going to get worse before it gets better, but karma does have a way of doing that when them self-centered orientated ideas are implemented

[oscar111]

36. nolabels, i probably agree with you

but i am not sure at all as to what you said.
could you please re edit it, with most pronouns replaced by nouns?
thank you amigo,
oscar

[ngGale]

31. They have got to be kidding ....

the DNC rides again. :sarcasm:

[Judi Lynn]

34. This is unbearable.

Surely something will stop him. Surely.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Joe Andrew talks Friday with Clara Padilla Andrews, publisher of the Hispanic News in Portland, Ore., as part of a push to draw more Hispanic voters to the Democratic Party. Andrew and Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson both addressed a convention of Hispanic publishers meeting at the Monte Carlo.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The $50 Outrage: The Democrats' appalling chairman



LOS ANGELES (August 14) -- "So, how is the Democrat Convention going to be different than the Republican?" giggled the caffeinated Fox News entertainment reporter gal to some Democrat spokesman.

A horrible face then filled the screen – weak double-chin (on a man who is obviously skinny), pasty complexion, fey little wire glasses, nerd-smirk. "Wellll, first of all, you'll see that the Democrats actually know how to dance!" burbled a man whose last dance was probably to "Stairway to Heaven" at the junior high prom. "Also, you'll see that our entertainers are actually, you know, people who have some relevance to the past 20 years!" (Those quotes are inexact, but unexaggerated.)

Welcome to the awful world of Joe Andrew, the Democratic Party's appalling twit of a national chairman. He's a dot-com weenie, a professional money hustler and influence peddler whose lone visible political passion seems to be a desire to hug everybody.

"How do you know if you're a Democrat? If you've ever met someone down on his or her luck, and you wanted to help, then you're a Democrat," Andrew wrote recently, in one of the worst essays I have ever read by an adult. "If you have ever seen the look in a child's eyes of fear, of hunger, or of aspiration, and wanted to help, then you're a Democrat. ... If you believe that we are better off working together than apart, then you're a Democrat. If you believe in community, opportunity, and responsibility, then you are a Democrat."
(snip/...)

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemId=6237

[Surya Gayatri]

39. 'Appalling' hardly expresses it--catastrophic is more like it...

:wtf:
Oh, my God! If this new-age wannabee, psycho-babble spouting, chipmunk cheeked idiot was head of the party in '99, the too-close-to-call results of 2000 should come as no surprise. He is a living, breathing caricature of the 'loony left' stereotype.

[AtomicKitten]

37. Joe Andrew

needs a swift kick to the nutsack.

[TankLV]

42. If you can locate them, that is!

[anotherdrew]

47. how do we get this guy dis-employed as chairman?

seriously...

[Robeson]

38. Follow the money. How much is he getting paid?

[fujiyama]

49. That's what I was wondering

I doubt it's even that much. Many Dems are whores, but what is even more pathetic is that they are cheap whores.

[Seabiscuit]

46. Thank god we now have Howard Dean instead of people like this putz.

[genieroze]

48. Stick a fork in us, the Dem party is done. eom

[Al-CIAda]

50. .

[Kurovski]

51. Blech! Feh! And arrgh!

Don't most folks avoid stepping in a pile of dog mess on the sidewalk?

A pox on both their houses.

[stevedeshazer]

52. Selling us out

One vote at a time....

[neuvocat]

55. No fucking way.

No, we will not have ANYONE trying to hock a rigged voting system out here when we made it plain we don't want it!