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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:24 AM
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Ohio again near top of layoff list
http://dayton.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2005/08/22/daily6.html?jst=b_ln_hl

The number of mass layoffs increased again in July in the Buckeye state, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday.

Ohio employers initiated 115 mass layoff events in July, resulting in 25,306 initial claims for unemployment insurance, according to the bureau. The numbers are up, compared with June when employers took 62 mass layoff actions, resulting in 11,541 unemployment insurance claims. However, the numbers are below July 2004 levels, when employers initiated 122 mass layoffs involving 26,605 workers.

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Among the states, Ohio recorded the third highest number of initial claims in July, trailing California, with 41,741, and Michigan, with 34,561. Indiana was fourth with 15,176. The four states combined accounted for 45 percent of all mass layoff events and 48 percent of the initial claims for unemployment insurance.

Nationwide, U.S. employers took 1,249 mass layoff actions in July, involving 131,326 workers.

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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:29 AM
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1. The "Bush economy"
is sure working out for them there.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:11 AM
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29. but but but Gay Marriage was the critical issue in the Buckeye State
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:37 AM
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2. I'm to blame.
During last year's campaign, the Repubs kept telling people if they voted for John Kerry, there would be more layoffs.

I did. See what happened?

Oh, and all those (Dayton) WPAFB jobs that may go to Massachusetts? Same story. They told us -- actually sometimes they screamed at us: Vote for Kerry and Dayton will lose those jobs.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 01:07 PM
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11. At least they were right about that. The people did VOTE for
John Kerry, and there have been more layoffs. If their votes had been counted, however, things might be different now.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:39 AM
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3. I warned them...
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 11:40 AM by YOY
They called me a "lib'ral", "anti-american", and "for the terr-wrists"

My one RW friend asked me if I was happy about being right. My angry reply was "How could anyone be happy about being right about this."

He was pretty speechless.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:49 AM
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5. I had one Republican ask me if I was happy also......
(about the war and the Economy) ..I looked him square in the eye and said in a VERY nasty voice: "Well, frankly, any person with an IQ over 60 could or should have seen this coming a mile away. I've never seen a Republican Administration yet that didn't fuck things up for everybody".
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:55 AM
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7. They think its a game
Some of it is...up until it effects you dirrectly, then it's just not funny anymore now is it?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:47 AM
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4. "As you sow, so shall you reap". Ohioans need to think about
kicking out the corrupt Republican administration in order to get their votes counted accurately.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:51 AM
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6. Well, they voted for Mr Layoff in Chief!!! But, hey, gays can't get
married in Ohio!!! Good job!!!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:10 PM
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9. Sorry, but the majority voted for Kerry
The exit polls didn't lie. Every dirty trick in the book was used. I saw some of it with my own eyes.

Yeah, we are more or less split down the middle here, but it is block by block, neighbor against neighbor.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 12:14 PM
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10. Sorry, Ohio went for Bush! If your house is dirty, then only the
people of Ohio can fix it. Calling it a dirty election means nothing, it is actions that count.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:59 PM
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17. Is this constructive?
Bashing Ohio Dems isn't going to win you any friends here.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:09 PM
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21. Who is bashing Ohio Democrats? Last I looked, it was the Republicans
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 05:12 PM by VegasWolf
doing all the winning. The same is true here in Nevada, each
red state needs to deal with its own issues. If Ohio's elections are dirty, which I suspect they are, then Ohio needs to fix them.
That is constructive.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:39 PM
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22. It's not like folks didn't try
How many lawsuits have been filed so far? Not to mention the fact that Kerry abandoned Ohio when he could have made a stand.

Looks like we will have some election reform initatives on the ballot in '06.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:57 PM
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23. Ohio Dem's need to be bashed....
I was involved for eight years with the democratic party in Ohio, big time....

The whole process out side of Cuyahoga County is non existant....

they tried several times to get things of the ground and then....

well, the leadership wa good at raising money for clinton the there gubernatorial candidates, but on down the ticket....

Nothing.....

we could have taken out Blackwell in 98 but a decision was made at the last minute to "focus" on the top of the ticket.....

Nothing changes....
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:29 PM
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15. Gotta agree with you, Mongo.
You and I know how hard we worked and how optimistic things seemed on election day.
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CrazyForKucinich Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:59 AM
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8. Snowball effect
If people have no jobs they have no money to support other businesses in their area...thus creating less demand for workers. Simple really.

It will only get worse.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 02:38 PM
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12. "It will only get worse."
Exactly. I know anyone relying only on the republican-biased news for info on the economy is going to be really surprised when they get fired in this dying economy. They'll have no idea of just how difficult it is to get a job.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 03:02 PM
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13. And, thusly, the real estate appreciation is among the lowest
in the country. Gotta migrate to where the jobs are at, and it ain't here. Astronomical taxes, electricity and other utilities make going south more attractive to businesses.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:02 PM
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19. Actually taxes aren't bad
especially for businesses. Its probably one of the lowest tax states I've lived in. Housing costs are very reasonable, too.

Its the growing problems with undefunding education spending that are catching up.

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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:00 PM
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14. Time for Hackett for Senate!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:56 PM
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16. Strickland for Governor
Time to clean up the scum in Columbus and get rid of "pay to play". Its time to start taxing employers who send jobs overseas or offshore and start penalizing them for not supporting Ohio.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:59 PM
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18. Our (some say) elected officials in Ohio are Republicans, they are
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 05:00 PM by mod mom
too busy playing golf, eating at expensive steak houses and collecting beanie babies to worry about bringing jobs to Ohio>
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:04 PM
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20. They're also busy giving away our taxes
to these same businesses. They're very lax when it comes to letting companies and the wealthy send assets offshore to avoid taxation.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:32 PM
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25. They have thrown so much cash at the business
interests here in Ohio that they can't attract anyone else to come to the state....

We are bankrupted by crony capitalism
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:58 PM
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27. The Republican Party has always had a corrupt and powerful political...
...machine in Ohio, and its not surprising they rule it like a fiefdom. And I knew if it came down to that state for the election, Kerry would lose. Repugs have had a history of controlling elections with Ohio right in the middle. Eight presidents have come from Ohio, and all but one were Republicans, and that exception, was a Whig, pre-cursor to the Republicans. They were some of the most corrupt administrations in this nations history, and were some of the most corrupted elections in American history. The fact that they have a crooked machine in Ohio, should be no surprise to anyone. They have a lot of experience in that state.
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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:25 PM
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24. No offense to the good democrats of Ohio but...
for the idiots that voted for Bush. You made your bed, now lie in it.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:35 PM
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26. Hasn't this problem been going on for a long time?
I don't feel like searching for stats, but from what I have read and experienced first hand, growing up in Ohio, the decline of Ohio has been going on beginning around the time of Reagan. Much of the Ohio economy was supported by the manufacturing industry. People had good Union jobs which allowed the majority of people to live a middle class lifestyle. The decline of manufacturing and the decline of Unions has hit Ohio hard, both in the big cities like Cleveland and Toledo and the smaller towns.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:12 PM
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28. Oh well-
Reap what you sow.
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