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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:27 PM
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Protesters, traffic snarls raise courthouse ruckus (Crawford is rumbling)

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/24/20050824wacprotest_commish.html

Protesters, traffic snarls raise courthouse ruckus

Despite the threat of a civil rights lawsuit, a divided McLennan County Commissioners Court took the first step Tuesday in regulating traffic on more than seven miles of roadways around President Bush's Crawford ranch.

....

“We are not trying to penalize anybody,” said Meadows, whose precinct includes the Bush ranch. “The homeowners are hurting out there and have had to deal with a lot of problems for the past two weeks. What has happened in the past two weeks is our sheriff and chief deputy have turned into parking attendants.”

....

“We drive through this every day,” Westerfield said. “My daughter is 9 and people walked up to our car window and said things and made her feel very uncomfortable. She is too nice a girl to repeat some of the things they said.

“We've seen people going to the bathroom on the side of the road out in front of everybody,” she said. “There is a man sleeping in a bus who is halfway naked. I drove through this and my children are scared. We are scared.”


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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:29 PM
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1. wa wa wa
talk to george. tell him to resign.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:30 PM
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2. If they're scared, they can always take a vacation
It's the American thing to do, after all!
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beetbox Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:32 PM
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3. Halfway Naked?
We could smell the garlic and incense coming from within. I'm telling you I saw Satan himself in the tent.
Gasp!

Hey now Hey now Lay it all down

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few…No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
– James Madison, Political Observations, 1795


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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:39 PM
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5. Uh.. is that woman peering inside that bus?
How else could you see someone sleeping "half naked" in a bus? Which half was naked??
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:31 AM
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14. No... she says she drove through it
and saw the semi-naked man and it scared her. I wonder how you do that?
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:39 AM
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23. He had his shirt off?????
Ohmigod! Hide the children's eyes!!!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:15 PM
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37. What a fab quote by James Madison! I'll spread it around. Thanks! n/t
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:38 PM
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4. I call total BULLSHIT!!!
Do any of you believe that people with Cindy would say ANYTHING untoward to a 9 year old girl? Unless that child is mouthing off along with her sourpuss Mother, then I highly doubt people supporting Cindy are talking trash at the child. Wonder if Mommy has been trying to run people off the road? Or perhaps engaging in some colorful language of her own?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:07 AM
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24. You realize there are Freepers there also and they certainly would say any
thing to a nine year old. All Protesters are being lumped together when I would bet money it is the freepers that are trashing the area and are rude and crude and scaring the townsfolk.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:45 PM
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6. Childish adults.
They want protection from impatience and embarrassment.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:46 PM
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7. Maybe she should take her 9 year-old
for a visit to Iraq where she could see how Iraqi children are living as a result of George Bush's war. Those that are still alive, that is.

The person responsible for the inconvenience of having to pass a few extra cars (but I thought rightwing radio hosts were saying there weren't many people there?) is George Bush. She should write to him and ask him to speak to the mother of a dead soldier and everyone will go home. Did anyone tell her that?

Heaven forbid our children should see citizens exercising their constitutional rights but Iraqi children should have to watch their parents being blown to bits because of the Bush administration's lies.

I love when they use the children ~ 'what about the chilren' ~ I'd like to ask her 'what about the children of Iraq?' And show her a few pictures. Her daughter is very, very lucky ~ Maybe some pictures of dead and wounded Iraqi children along the way might make her realize how lucky her daughter is.
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fauxpolitico Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:00 AM
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12. Agree totally
I missed your post while I was typing mine.

We think alike. Great minds always do! :)
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:21 PM
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30. *lol* ~ thank you!
And welcome to DU ~ :-)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:51 PM
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8. "We are scared" - no shit, how you think the rest of america feels with *
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:00 AM
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11. What is more IMPORTANT??? The Lancing of the Wound..leading
to a Healing, or continue the BS with attending rising misery...;;

America is INFECTED with a horrible Leader who is not really a Leader....more like a person with a childlike mind...Cindy is the red hot knife used to lance wounds of the pus/bacteria/etc

The Pain is great but healing usually follows....
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:57 PM
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9. Reminds me of that Phil Spurlock guy
The one who faked a picture with the little blonde girl (his own daughter) on his shoulders with a big bad Kerry supporter sneering at him. Turned out the Kerry supporter was his own son, and he was using his kids to make Kerry look bad. That's what these county commisioners are doing here. Using their kids to make the opposition look bad. It's too pathetic.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:38 AM
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18. Parlock.
Phil Parlock.
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fauxpolitico Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 11:58 PM
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10. Geez
What a bunch of babies! Is this the only road to where these people need to go?

If the mom of the 9-year-old has such a problem, she needs to find another route.

Or, better yet, explain to her daughter the unjust war that * has forced upon us and she might not take such offense to what we are saying. I think a 9-year-old could grasp the concept that the Iraqi war is unjust and criminal.

Hell, my toddler niece probably gets it. Sheesh.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:25 AM
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13. Must have been neocons pissing on the side of the road, since Camp Casey
has port-o-potties.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:39 AM
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19. And Camp Casey is no longer on the side of the road.
When did these incidents happen?
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:43 AM
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20. From what I understand, there are still some people at the old camp
I think
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:36 AM
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15. Bring the noise!!!!!
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:16 AM
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16. No sacrifice too small...
for small minded people.

If people are going to the bathroom on the side of the road and they're out in front of everybody and Ms.Westerfield is driving through it, then maybe she should stop driving on the side of the road. Or keep her eyes on the road and stop lying about her experiences.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:11 AM
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17. I wonder how much money has made its way to Crawford
Probably a lot more than the money Chumpy brings with him.. The captive stenographers that follow him around probably don't spend a lot.

The protestors have probably beefed up the local economy tenfold. Of course the reason they are there, is the burr under the saddle.

I guess they will just have to 'deal with it'..'Get over it'..'Move On'..

In a week Chumpy will be gone, and they can have their gritty little dustbin back to themseves.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:47 AM
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21. Since the administration has dubbed this area the "Western White House"
Doesn't that proclamation trump any local distinction? In other words, isn't the "Western White House" public property -- just like the original White House?

It seems to me that - if that is the case - then the gates on the "Western White House" should be thrown open and the protestors and supporters should be allowed to camp right there on the public property and use the public facilities.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:35 AM
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25. That's right, CornField
Its only democratic, eh?

Seems to me the problem stems from b**h. If he weren't there neither would the crowds. I'd say they should declare the western White House a public nuisance and evict the troublemaker. Everybody would go home and Crawford could go back to sleep.

Crawford: We are watching you. The whole world is. You'd best be careful.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:27 AM
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22. westerfield is a liar.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:42 AM
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26. Camp Bush Ft. Qualls
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 10:45 AM by sattahipdeep
Mashek said he was startled when he
realized that Meadows' proposed ordinance includes 7.5
miles of public roads near the presidential retreat.

....
The restrictions against parking, stopping or standing would apply to Prairie Chapel, Hester, Old Beulah,
Morgan, Mattlage, Homestead, Quiet Valley, Canaan Church, Coryell City, Bohne, Spross, Castle Creek
and West Middle Bosque roads.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/23/20050823waccommishadvance.html

....
Comissioners want to restrict traffic at Camp Casey
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2030466

If You're Not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4442033

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4408475&mesg_id=4408475
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:47 AM
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27. Go talk to Bush
He's the one refusing one simple meeting with Cindy. That's all he has to do in order to make this all go away.

Then there's this:

"What has happened in the past two weeks is our sheriff and chief deputy have turned into parking attendants."

Because I'm sure they were so active before in the bustling town of Crawford, TX. :eyes:
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:01 AM
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28. Crawford residents don't like being occupied?
I figured a big portion of them would think "occupiers" are good! They are only getting a teensy sample of what the people of Iraq are suffering through.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:06 AM
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29. Amen
nuff said.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:56 PM
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31. The whole world is watching CRAWFORD
CRAWFORD The Lone Star Iconoclast has seen an unually large number of visitors on its
online edition this past two weeks, which publishers attribute to coverage of the Cindy Sheehan protest
in and near Crawford.
Among the countries from where individuals have visited the website
<www.iconoclast-texas.com > are these:
United States, Canada, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands,
Uruguay, France, New Zealand, Taiwan, Province of China, Spain, Belgium, Mexico, Switzerland,
Malaysia, Italy, Korea, Republic of China, Ireland, Brazil, Singapore, United Arab Emirates, Denmark,
Finland, Norway, Thailand, Hong Kong, India, South Africa, Israel, Austria, Saudi Arabia, Czech
Republic, Greece, Turkey, Argentina, Slovenia, Indonesia, Hungary, Philippines, Portugal, Poland,
Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Egypt, Europe, Nigeria, Chile, Pakistan, Vietnam, Jordan, Russian Federation,
Guam, Venezuela, Guatemala, Colombia, Estonia, Iran, Islamic Republic of Bermuda, American
Samoa, Slovakia, Kuwait, Malta, Luxembourg, Bolivia, Lithuania, Trinidad and Tobago.
Also, Myanmar, Iceland, Dominican Republic, Senegal, Costa Rica, Croatia, El Salvador,
Cyprus, Benin, Tanzania, United Republic of Qatar, Cuba, Bangladesh, Oman,
Guadeloupe,Yugoslavia, Albania, Sudan, Cayman Islands, Netherlands Antilles, Ukraine, Maldives,
Romania, Moldova, Republic of Barbados, Bulgaria, Armenia, Peru, Kenya, Ecuador, Brunei
Darussalam, Ghana, Sri Lanka, Azerbaijan,6 Virgin Islands, U.S., Latvia, Nepal, Solomon Islands,
Antigua and Barbuda, Nicaragua, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Cook Islands, Cameroon, Palau, Namibia,
Papua New Guinea, Mauritius, Paraguay, Monaco, Belarus, Bahrain, Uganda, Tunisia, Gambia,
Gibraltar Grenada, and Bahamas.
Most of the visits were from throughout the United States.

http://198.65.14.85/News/2005/31-40/33news04.htm
The Lone Star Iconoclast.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:15 PM
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32. it's always"but the cheeeeldren !!!"deal with it-or move to another town
If the Cheeeldren are "scared" it's because their parents tell them to be--
Fear of protestors? gimmie a break!
it's probably good for them to see beyond their sheltered facade of a world
there in Crawdaddyford--

By the way, there wasn't even a place called "Crawford" Texas prior to Chimp's occupation of the White house.--it was incorporated after the inauguration--
Not that that makes a difference but these residents that are so "upset" don't "have" to live there--
They must hate "freedom" !!!
They are free to leave and don't even know it!


My advise--> ignore them like your beloved Chimp does.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:36 PM
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33. made her very uncomfortable?
a man can be pretty naked, way more than half, and not be indecent.

just a speedo is legal, poor babies!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:40 PM
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34. I hopethose kids don't listen to Pat Robertson.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:51 PM
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35. This is the state where you can take concelaed weapons into a church?
And they're afraid of people who are working towards peace?
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NCPatriot Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:56 PM
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36. Mommy.... What do the Crosses Mean?
Apparently, the mother chose to address her personal agenda, and not that of what her children are going to have to face in the future!

The world builds more hate for the USA every day... we can thank the Bushitters for it!
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 05:55 PM
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38. Bush flying back to Waco Wednesday afternoon
Sheehan, the 48-year-old Vacaville, Calif., mom whose protest
was interrupted last week by her mother's illness in Los Angeles,
was flying back to Waco Wednesday afternoon to resume her protest
of the war in Iraq.

The press conference they were mounting focused on
how pollution would adversely impact President Bush's
outdoor activities, including bike-riding and brush-clearing. :puke:

President Bush is returning to all of this Wednesday, flying
back to Waco from a short stay in Idaho, then going to his
ranch to continue his August vacation.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/08/24/20050824wacprotest.html




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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:00 PM
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39. No imagination for their lies. They always play the child card.
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