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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:06 AM
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15 Chinese detainees still in limbo at Gitmo
Aug. 24, 2005, 12:45AM

15 Chinese detainees still in limbo at Gitmo: No nation will take them
By ROBIN WRIGHT
Washington Post

WASHINGTON - In late 2003, the Pentagon quietly decided that 15 Chinese Muslims detained at the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, could be released.

Five were people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, some of them picked up by Pakistani bounty hunters for U.S. payoffs. The other 10 were deemed low-risk detainees whose enemy was China's communist government — not the United States.

More than 20 months later, the 15 still languish at Guantanamo Bay, imprisoned and sometimes shackled, with most of their families unaware whether they are even alive.

They are men without a country. The Bush administration has chosen not to send them home for fear that China will imprison, persecute or torture them. But the State Department has also been unable to find another country to take them in, according to U.S. officials and recently filed court documents.


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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3322943
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:24 AM
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1. So they're looking for a place to take them in. And why, please,
are these poor, poor totally innocent people still in Guantanamo meanwhile, "imprisoned and sometimes shackled"?! Why, please, are "most of their families still unaware they're even alive" ??!!!

If they're doing something like this - inhumane and totally against international law - to people they themselves hold innocent then one shudders trying to imagine what your administration does to people it considers "guilty"...

To The Hague, each and every one of them!

-----------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:33 AM
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2. Then why are we not offering them asylum? Am I missing something?
...If they were innocent, then it is we who need to right a wrong.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:41 AM
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3. And is the bounty hunter angle explored by American Corporate Media?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:20 AM
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4. "unable to find another country to take them in"
I guess we don't do this anymore:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

I guess that America no longer exists.
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RPM_BU Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:31 PM
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8. Would you want to live in a country
that has locked you away for years for no reason ?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:43 AM
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11. No, but I'm sure they'd prefer it to gitmo
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:26 AM
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5. kick
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:01 PM
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6. And to think Sen Durbin was chastised for his "gulag" remarks.
Think about it, KNOWINGLY imprisoning people who were "in the wrong place at the wrong time". Talk about an aggregious denial of basic human rights.

I only hope that keeping this kicked will make more Americans aware of what is being done in our name.

Though it pains me to say it, SEND THEM TO THE HAGUE!
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:27 PM
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7. kick
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:38 AM
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9. Kick! Why doesn't anybody find this information interesting?!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:31 AM
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10. This is a great example
of exactly what's wrong with Gitmo. It makes an absolute mockery of the Geneva convention and the US Constitution.

If the US wants to file charges against them, fine, they should do so. If not let them go. Indefinite detentions are what is expected of China and are not the hallmarks of any democracy.
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