Afghanistan: Osama Bin Laden Reported Injured

[sabra]

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.200350331&par=0

AFGHANISTAN: OSAMA BIN LADEN REPORTED INJURED

Kabul, 24 August (AKI) - Osama bin Laden has been wounded in Afghanistan, according to two different reports carried by various Islamic websites. Referring to the al-Qaeda leader as Abu Abdullah, the second message, which appeared on Wednesday, said: "Mullah Ahmadi, military leader of the Badr brigades, which form part of the al-Qaeda organisation in Afghanistan, has confirmed that Sheikh Abu Abdullah has been injured in his left leg."

It follows a previous message on several Islamic websites saying the fugitive terrorist leader was injured while taking part in an attack on a Spanish military base in Afghanistan.

The second message relaying the news is titled "Confirmation of the injury of Sheikh Abu Abdullah in the Al-Khulud expedition" and adds other details, specifying that the injury was to the left leg and claiming it was sustained "when the Sheikh went out onto the battlefield to lead the expedition during which the Spanish base was attacked and which was named the Al-Khulud expedition."

"The source has promised to broadcast soon a video of the expedition, which lasted four hours," the message continues, before concluding: "Therefore we ask Allah to heal the Sheikh and make him well again. Don't be miserly in praying for him."

[benburch]

1. I hope he dies.

Bastard.

[peacetalksforall]

16. You call him that because you believe he sent the hijackers to this

country on his own without a partnership with the US - or because of his partnership with the US - or because you believe he is responsible for all the insurgency in Afghanistan or Iraq?

[benburch]

23. Any one of those reasons would do. nt

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. If any of them were true. Why aren't you pointing the finger of blame...

...toward the man REALLY responsible for the 911 attacks since they took place while he's been our Fearless Fuhrer?

[benburch]

29. I don't need to.

That does not change the fact that I want Bin Laden dead.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. Right. Whatever you say.

[benburch]

34. The fact that Hitler issued the orders...

did not change the fact that I wanted Dr. Josef Mengele dead.

And I don't think you can argue that it should have, can you?

[librechik]

35. I hope he comes forward and spills his guts about the whole plot

including who sent him to "destroy the economy of the US."

[peacetalksforall]

38. Yes...look at the facts.

bin Laden wants to destroy the economy of the U.S.
Our PNAC-Cabal regime wants to destory the economy of the U.S.

It addes up to me. It doesn't take much for me to guess which one is dominant, i.e., which one wrote the contract and which just read it and signed.

[SOS]

50. Speaking of facts

This line discredits the entire article:

"Mullah Ahmadi, military leader of the Badr brigades, which form part of the al-Qaeda organisation in Afghanistan..."

Badr Corps is part of AQ in Afghanistan? Time to hire a fact checker.

[SOS]

73. More

Google "Mullah-Ahmadi" and you get 4 results.
Two from a Croatian basketball site and two from an Italian UFO site.

"The military leader of the Badr Brigades"

:eyes:

[catzies]

79. If he tries, they'll "Noriega" him: drugged up & living in Club Fed.

Sometimes the BFEE can neutralize their enemies without offing them.

[magnetism]

93. I would love to hear the true story

from Osama's mouth. That would be all that is needed to send * packing.

[mknmehappy]

49. You really are not serious..

Are you?

[jayfish]

63. I Couldn't Care Less If He Lives Or Dies,...

but can you provide any documentary evidence that he is/was involved in any of the events from 9/11 to today? The "fat" Osama video does not count. He's just a boogey man IMO.

Jay

[lonestarnot]

100. Me tinks dis could be bushit....

[peacetalksforall]

39. Not specific enough for me.

Additionally - we need bin Laden alive to testify or at least comment about our recent history from a prison or his arranged safekeeping.

Anyway, I don't believe he was fighting. It's all vague and incongruous. It appears to be another whitewash. If they try to have him die in typed words, we'll know it is all a cover-up for his further protection.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. Or because 911 was conveniently blamed on Osama because....

...Osama has been made into the most visibly notorious terrorist by the MSM at the direction of the NeoCon Junta?

[H5N1]

36. that is exactly the kind of garbage bush wants you to spew

I have seen zero credible evidence that bin Laden
was behind 911. Bush/Cheney did it. bin Laden may
have been involved - who knows?

If you are going to be angry, be pissed at bush/cheney.
They are bin Laden times a billion.

[northzax]

47. regardless of 9/11, bin Laden is a terrorist leader

who calls for mass murder of people based on religion (Judaism) or national origin. That alone justifies wanting him dead. Even without the attacks on US soil, he has still killed innocent civilians, deliberatly, to make a political point. Or were Bush/Cheney somehow responsible for the Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings? how about the USS Cole?

While I don't accept the tin foil premise that the US government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, even if they let them happen does not change the guilt of the person who carried outthe incident. doing nothing in the face of evil does no excuse that evil.

Look at it this way, you give me a key to your house and tell me that your sister will be asleep at 2 am, and that I should come in an rape her. So I do. You allowed it to happen, hell, you told me to do it, did all the planning and everything. am I somehow off the hook for rape? no. we're BOTH guilty.

[Roland99]

52. It's Clinton's fault for not pursuing OBL for the last 4 1/2 years.

[northzax]

58. er, is there some relevance here?

or do you have a cliplist of wingnut talking points that you throw out anytime you can't make an arguement of your own?

by the way, Eric Rudolph was on the run for a decade, should he have been absolved of guilt because the FBI wasn't looking hard enough for him?

[Roland99]

60. Um...tap your sarcasm detector

;)

[northzax]

61. curses, forgot to change the batteries! lol

I was wondering what that beeping was!

although to be honest, it's kinda hard to tell on this thread.

[Roland99]

62. heh heh

Yeah...I understand what you're saying.


I tend to be sarcastic a lot so I don't always use the :sarcasm: smiley.

[0007]

65. Five years is not a decade!

Rudolph, eluded authorities for five years ....

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-08-22-voa41.cfm

[bearfan454]

69. You said

"While I don't accept the tin foil premise that the US government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks"

Answer these questions then.

http://www.911busters.com/911_new_video_productions/MOV/Painful_Deceptions.html

[northzax]

70. why bother?

would anything I say possibly convince you?

[nolabels]

77. He did it from the Osama cave

He is mighty powerful, ya know With just a few cell phone calls, Osama the cave dweller, can send the entire USA into a tail spin for years ;-)

Like I have seen five years olds make up better stories, someone better call a playwright already :argh:

[barb162]

55. I second that

[Rich Hunt]

64. you don't think he's more useful in custody?

I do.

I want some answers.

[benburch]

76. If I thought he'd talk, yes.

But as I don't think he would, I'm happy if he dies.

[Deja Q]

68. So do I.

[Radio_Lady]

106. I'll believe this story when some "more reputable" new groups report it.

Until then, it's conjecture...

[Stockholm]

2. He will eventually die of old age

* needs him as much as OBL needs *.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

74. I thought Bush's current response was...

Osama been huh?

[ck4829]

3. I will be praying to Allah

"May he not heal, and may he suffer and writhe in pain before he dies alone and in a cave"

[lateo]

4. Did he fall off his bike?

Just asking....

[TroglodyteScholar]

5. Seem to be a lot of specifics...

...I can't help but wonder if this is a crafty bit of misdirection.

[KittyWampus]

42. is it fat osama or skinny osama?

[merwin]

6. Not killed? I guess they're giving up on that after his 5th death.

If anything, he'll die of kidney failure before we get him.

[bleedingheart]

7. don't believe it at all....

just like the renal failure story...

[Solly Mack]

8. injured.sick.dead. PICK ONE ALREADY!!!! and stick with it.

[Porcupine]

9. Does Bin Laden really exist?

I have a hard time believing that a man in his late 70's with kidney problems is engaging in attacks on anything more than a bowl of soup. He seems to convienently appear and disapear in the news.

[Lochloosa]

22. Bin Laden is my age...47...born in 1957

Edit to add link:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

[wli]

78. he's not that old yet, but the comment applies well

[silvermachine]

84. He's not is his 70's....

I believe he is in his late 40's.

[GregW]

10. Is this the fat Osama or the skinny Osama?

:shrug:

[TankLV]

83. It was the one who sang in Vegas - no wait, that was Elvis?

By the way: Has anybody SEEN Elvis - hmmmmm?

Pretty interesting - Elvis "dies" and OBL emerges.

Just sayin' is all...

[Dinger]

99. Maybe They're Dating??? (nt)

[CornField]

11. He's in Afghanistan, eh?

Too bad our military was 'distracted' by administrative lies and weren't able to complete their mission in Afghanistan.

[Bob3]

12. Sorry - I don't buy it.

Too many details for one, considering that we haven't seen hide nor hair of this man for months. Second the manner in which he is said to have been wounded - leading an attack on a Spanish Base in Afghanistan (was there such an attack? Anybody know?). If memory serves Ben Laden gave more overall guidance than actually doing any of the killing himself.
It makes no real sense - would they risk the symbol of their movement on an attack on an obscure nameless spanish base? If Ben Laden was going to take a change that he would join the Martyrs surely he would leading an attack on an American Base yes?

And of course this comes out at a time when approval over *'s handling of the Iraqi war is at an all time low and in the middle of *'s 5 day media push to rally support. What better way than to toss out the prospect of the death of Bin Laden.

[musette_sf]

67. Exactamundo. I concur. n/t

[Caution]

13. Hope he develops gangrene and dies

bastard. And to you people who try to politicize this, shame on you. I think it is pretty damned clear, no matter where you stand politically in this country that OBL is an enemy of all americans and the sooner he is gone from this world the safer every single one of us will be.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Actually, Herr Busch is MUCH more of a threat to Americans than OBL...

...I've also never been convinced that OBL was involved with 911, or if he was, he was working in cooperation with the NeoCon Junta.

[Name removed]

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[Zenlitened]

14. Bin Laden out on the battlefield, leading an assault team?

Uh... yeah. Right. :eyes:

[Yupster]

41. My thought too Zen

I could see him getting caught in an ambush or wounded by a sniper, or even injured when some ammo goes off by mistake, but his organization would really have to be torn to shreds before he would lead a small unit assault.

I'd say he may be injured, but if he is they're changing the reason.

When Hitler died, German radio reported he died in the front lines fighting the Russians.

[Bonhomme Richard]

15. I think it's crap.

I see no reason, and it would not make any sense, that he would be directly (physically) involved in any direct attack unless he had a death wish. Makes no strategic sense at all.

[Catrina]

17. *lol* ~ another Bin Forgotten myth

Imo, this is just another attempt to save Bush ~

Weren't we just told last week that we KNOW now that Osama is in Pakistan?

Those mysterious Islamic websites!!

And, btw, Osama Bin Laden is not in his seventies, he's in his forties, maybe fifty by now. But I can see him leading his troops attached to a dialysis machine! And, I am not even sure he was the culprit in 9/11. How do we know this? What evidence, other than 'we were told by the Bush administration' that he was responsible?

Sort of like Al Zarqawi, who we haven't heard about lately, but who has had one leg, two legs, then one again, he's been killed, resurrected, then 'seriously wounded' a few months ago, only to reappear with no mention of the 'serious wound'.

Iraqis do not believe in his existence, and Dan Rather had visited his hometown in Jordon two years ago and found what others had found there, he was a very ordinary, poor, not to bright guy, completely incapable of leading a movement like Al Queda. I always thought that was one of the reasons the administration hated Dan Rather so much.

Bush's poll numbers are in the thirties and Bin Laden is wounded!! And we should never forget that the Bushes and Bin Ladens have been involved in business for three decades with Bush Jr. getting financial aid for his oil business from one of Osama's brothers.

[slay]

88. Yeah.. I think this is just his annual "left leg wound"

:eyes:

[Child_Of_Isis]

18. Ratings alert, ratings alert! eom

[Andrushka]

19. Oh yeah

Stuck himself in the eye with a cocktail umbrella as he relaxed by a pool in "Afghanistan" is my guess. :eyes:

[peacetalksforall]

20. I think it intriguing the way al Queda connects with Spain just as Spain

and the Arabic world have been connected for centuries.

[xchrom]

21. lol -- afghanistan?!?!

no irony lying around there.

[endarkenment]

26. He can borrow one of zarqawis legs. nt.

[Roland99]

27. Got kicked in the shin by a camel?

[plasticsundance]

30. Everyone dies.

Wishing for someone to die is futile and silly.

[Catrina]

32. Why has Bush never visited the troops

in Afghanistan? I know he flew, unannounced, into Iraq with a plastic turkey and got out before anyone knew he was there. But isn't Afghanistan supposed to be where the real WOT is supposed to be being fought? Or does he even remember that war at all? Two soldiers were killed there this week ~

[RaleighNCDUer]

43. Considering that US troops in Afghanistan are 1/10th the numbers

in Iraq, aren't we losing troops in Afghanistan at proportionally the same rate as we are in Iraq?

[RaleighNCDUer]

51. I just did some figuring --

With 1864 dead in Iraq, out of 135,000 there, we are losing 1 for every 72.
With 223 dead in Afghanistan our of 15,000 there, we are losing 1 for every 67 there.

On a percentage basis, our casualties in Afghanistan are higher than in Iraq.

[Catrina]

86. Thank you

So then the question is even more relevant, why Bush has not visited the troops in Afghanistan? I wonder if he even knows how many soldiers have died there.

Your numbers are revealing. I haven't heard anything like this kind of analysis on the MSM ~ not that I expect to, btw ~

[fujiyama]

97. Good find

People have completely forgotten about Afghanistan.

I remember thinking in the build up to the Iraq invasion, even if there was some justification (and it was obvious there wasn't any), Afghanistan was by that point a good indication of how well this administration would do in the rebuilding of Iraq.

People think Afghanistan saw those pics of women taking off burkas and men getting shaved and thought, "oh we're done there. We liberated them. They're a democracy" (I recall one person asking me that once).

[Javaman]

33. And just why are we supposed to believe this?

alawi was supposed to only have one leg, one eye and something else missing or injured, yet he's able to run away from US Troops and leave behind a laptop in a taxi.

so now they are telling us the OBL is injured? And why are the US Gov't suddenly listening to Arabic newspapers? Is this were they get their hard field information from now?

What a bunch of dopes.

colossal failure*

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

72. Yeah, I just don't see Osama...

...attacking insignificant Spanish military installations. Doesn't he have better things to do?

[babyk]

37. Is it the fat Osama

or the skinny one?

[endarkenment]

40. Elvis and Osama - together again. Las vegas MGM Grand 2 weeks only. eom.

[Gregorian]

44. If he's still on the CIA payroll

maybe he's eligible for medical benefits.

[Oreegone]

45. Bin Laden former US employee?

Is it really former? My guess is he still works for the US government. I still have this vision of him in a Lazy Boy eating Doritos watching TV at the Bush ranch. Someone needs to make a smiley like the ones below with a turban, maybe a beard? Just thought it is fitting.

:popcorn: :spray: :hide:

[beetbox]

46. Meridian Arms, CIA, and Tim Osman (Osama bin Laden)

A couple of years later, Meridian International Logistics, the parent company of Meridian Arms, was to farm similar research out to the Japanese. This included (according to minutes of a corporate meeting dated Aug. 26, 1988) methods for "induction and activation of cytotoxic T-lymphocytes". Associated with Meridian's Robert Booth Nichols in a Middle Eastern operation called FIDCO, a company that ran arms into and heroin out of Lebanon's Beqaa (Bekaa) Valley, was Harold Okimoto, a high-ranking member of the Yakuza. Okimoto had longed worked under Frank Carlucci (who served as Secretary of Defense and Deputy Director of the CIA before becoming Chairman of The Carlyle Group). Okimoto owned food concessions in casinos around the world—Las Vega, Reno, Macao, and the Middle East. (Free drinks and anthrax while you play blackjack, anyone?)

Meeting Riconosciuto and Gunderson at the hotel were two representatives of the mujahadeen, waiting to discuss their armament needs. One of the two was named "Ralph Olberg." The other one was called Tim Osman (or Ossman).

"Ralph Olberg" was an American businesman who was leading the procurement of American weapons and technology on behalf of the Afghan rebels. He worked through the Afghan desk at the U.S. State Department, as well as through Senator Hubert Humphrey's office. Olberg looked after the Afghanis through a curious front called MSH—Management Sciences for Health.

The other man, dressed in Docker's clothing, was not a native Afghan any more than Olberg was. He was a 27-year-old Saudi. Tim Osman (Ossman) has recently become better known as Osama Bin Ladin. "Tim Osman" was the name assigned to him by the CIA for his tour of the U.S. and U.S. military bases, in search of political support and armaments.

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timosman.htm

[Roland99]

48. "There are some who call me.....Tim?"

[Art_from_Ark]

53. Watch out for those killer rabbits!

[Roland99]

59. Hmm...he has the beard! He must be a Muslim extremist!!!

Sic 'em, Pat!

[Renew Deal]

54. This sounds like propaganda

Why? Because I don't believe Osama is leading the charge on any battlefield against anyone. Why would he put himself at risk like that? Or did he just turn into Alexander the Great? I doubt it.

[sjdnb]

101. Thinking the same thing

Just a little heroic rhetoric to energize the masses.

[Arkansas Granny]

57. I put just as much faith in this information

as I do all the rumors about al-Zarqawi's injuries. Who knows, maybe they're doing rehab together at an undisclosed location.

[ClayZ]

66. Everyone: Get our your BPs and put them on!

[acmavm]

71. Okay, I'll believe it when I see it. How many times has the guy died,

been on dialysis, or whatever?

And why do I doubt that he goes 'onto the battlefield' when he has so many nutjobs to do the dirty work for him?

[maddezmom]

75. OBL seems to have more lives that a cat

has does the one legged man holed up in Iraq. :shrug:

[wli]

80. as fake as all the rest of the crap about OBL

Cheney did 9/11 anyway; Osama bin Laden a.k.a. Tim Osman or whoever didn't even know to claim responsibility until prompted.

[TankLV]

81. I thought he was dead, how can a dead person be ill?

Or is he in Aruba?

I don't know which story "our" government puts out now to believe!

What's a citizen to do?

But let's see:

We have bunkerboy's low poll numbers tanking. Check.
We have the repukes in congress polls tanking. Check.
Robertson, MR. REPUKE SPOKESPERSON & FORMER serious PRES. CANDIDATE voicing repuke and bunkerboy's official policy. Check.
War going MORE badly. Check.

Naw...can't be what I think it is...can it?

[ovidsen]

82. I hope he dies too.

I think he's responsible for 9/11. He admitted as much in last year's video. Now, I wouldn't trust a DOD or CNN translation, but I'm inclined to believe one from al-Jazzera:

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon (in 1982!), it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

I don't care if the US government sent him money to chase the Soviets out of Afghanistan. Not in a 9/11 context. He was the ringmaster for this puppy. If anyone in the US, or anywhere helped him on 9/11, I hope they die, too. Very slowly. Guiltyguiltyguilty.

Book 'em, Danno....

[RaleighNCDUer]

89. He may have been the ringmaster

but he isn't the one who owns the circus.

[Nostradamus]

85. Did he stub his toe in a Langley shopping mall ??

[methinks2]

87. I wish him blood poisoning,

and won't retract that later. Maybe gangrene first. Then renal failure.:evilgrin:

[agincourt]

90. This is too weird,

attacking a Spainish base? Injured his leg? Doesn't make sense to publicize a leg injury unless they actually think prayer will heal it.

[MiniMe]

91. Again? How many times does this make? n/t

[truebrit71]

92. Lt AWOL at 36%....OBL suddenly re-appears...

...these ass-halfs are sooooooooooooooooo predictable.... :puke:

[1956]

95. Exactly

BL probably died sometime around 2003. Bush just wants the myth to stay alive. God, how stupid do they think we are? Someone please stop the insanity!!

[Pastiche423]

94. It's a miracle!

OBL has once again arisen from the dead just as whistle ass et al's ratings are sinking like a rock.

For the people on this thread who believe OBL was behind the 9/11 attack:

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

[AnnieBW]

96. I want him ALIVE!

Better a live prisoner than a dead martyr. Or, just throw him into Gitmo and invite Lynndie England over with her leash.

Sorry, that sounds awfully Freeper of me, but OBL is just plain EVIL. Period. Regardless of what the * admin did or did not do, HE GAVE THE ORDER TO KILL 3,000 AMERICANS. Not to mention all of the casualties in Madrid, Bali, Riyadh, London, and everywhere else. Gitmo is too good for him. A quick death is DEFINITELY too good for him.

[Pastiche423]

104. Who told you

HE GAVE THE ORDER TO KILL 3,000 AMERICANS?

Where are your links? Where is the proof?

Btw, I think it is highly arrogant to claim that all of those killed on 9/11 were Americans!

People from 62 countries died that day. If you can't even get that fact straight, why would anyone believe anything you scream?

[fujiyama]

98. Osama bin Laden still in action?

That's kind of hard to believe.

If he's injured or dead, fine. Good riddance but this has about as much credibility as the millions of other stories of his whereabouts or his condition.

[brettdale]

102. I thought he was dying of kidney failure

I dont believe it.

[eridani]

103. Speaking of OBL, was that October 2004 video real?

There have been many threads here dissecting videos, from the "fat Osama" one to Nick Berg to the mystery bulge. Stills, pixels enlarged, the whole works. Almost no scrutiny on the one that popped up right before our election. A very obvious way to fake it would be to take an old visual from back when OBL was healthy and looking much more chipper, and redub it with new audio. It's possible to completely engineer original fake audio statements if you have enough soundclips from the one you want to impersonate. That would leave signs that someone who knew something about the process could detect. Wondering why there has been no interest.

[Blaq Dem]

105. Shouldn't he be dead by now?

It's not like the man will live on forever. I'm sure he'll kick the bucket some time in the near future.