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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:52 PM
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U.S. spy plane crash-lands near North Korea
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/2163289

U.S. spy plane crash-lands near North Korea
Associated Press
SEOUL, South Korea -- An unmanned U.S. military spy plane crash-landed near the border with communist North Korea, forcing the U.S. military to ground all planes of the same type deployed in South Korea last month, officials said today. Nobody was injured.

The plane, called the Shadow 200 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, crash-landed Thursday night on a river bank in Dongduchon, 20 miles south of the border with the North, said Choi Yang-do, a spokesman of the 2nd U.S. Infantry Division.

The U.S. military grounded all Shadow 200 planes in South Korea and elsewhere in the world, except Iraq, pending an investigation into what caused the accident, Choi said.

The U.S. military began flying Shadow planes last month to help monitor North Korean military activities along its border with the South.

more....

Unmanned airplanes falling from the sky! Interesting :bounce:
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:53 PM
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1. Bush will probably just claim it was pilot error. n/t
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:02 PM
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3. There is one terrible pilot. eom
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:58 PM
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2. The US Military
Has had an active Unmanned Ariel Vehicle program since the early 80s.

They come in all sizes and shapes. Some fly at super high altitudes, some fly low. Some are huge, some are small. They are all built with a specific mission in mind.

The American public would be amazed at all the classified UAV programs that are folded into the Pentagon's "black" budget.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:04 PM
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4. And YET this one crashed! does NKorea have a way of Blocking
the signal! Is that possibly linked to the Chineese Satelite just put up in orbit! What timing :bounce:
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:22 AM
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21. Not Necessarily
Some of the UAVs fly autonomously over preprogrammed tracks, others would be controlled from the ground, still others could use a combination of both autonomous and ground based control.

If the UAV had any type of autonomous capability, an outside signal would have little effect.

I suspect that the likely cause of the crash was an on board malfunction not intentional downing or deliberate jamming.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:15 AM
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20. Sadam had the same equipment and programs.
Could stike at any moment!
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:05 PM
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5. So, are we "accidentally" giving
our technology to N. Korea like we did with China. I wonder how much we're going to have to pay to get it shipped back in hundreds of pieces?
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:27 PM
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7. It landed in SOUTH Korea
The plane, called the Shadow 200 Tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, crash-landed Thursday night on a river bank in Dongduchon, 20 miles south of the border with the North,
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:53 PM
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12. It landed in TDC? That's where the 2nd Infantry Division is!
This made it easy to get it back...just call up the 102nd MI (who probably owned the damn thing in the first place) and tell them to go out and police up the bits.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 08:00 AM
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19. I wondered if someone was going to catch that
the damn thing landed 20 miles from NK. The headlines are just for propaganda reasons..

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:26 PM
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6. MMMM....Tonight on JAG, flyboy Harm was spying over North Korea....
MMMMMMM
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:32 PM
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8. does anybody know how these are guided???
Can the Military Satelite from China block the signal this was pretty coincidental

Yes Our Technology is being taken away from us in Bucket fulls and we just watch :bounce:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:44 AM
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22. Very interesting Nottingham!!!!..........The beginning of Space wars?
Hmmmmm..........

A weapon that may be taken away from Bush!

Now if we could keep them from using the microwave weapons
this would be great!!!

No more Plane crashes!!!
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:34 PM
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9.  __ Hmmm __ Ur tax dollars at work __


. . Does anyone doubt that the WH is spying on it's own people as well ??

One frikken paranoid nation y'all got there

and rightly so,

you can't be having war with half the world without expecting someone to strike back - -

The USA is inviting it's own destruction

Just My Humble Canadian Opinion

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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:37 PM
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10. Paranoid yes But what if somebody has learned to stop us
Is that why 200 planes have been grounded. Imagine somebody being able to guide these unmanned planes and use them as BoMBS

:bounce:
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:33 AM
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14. There is a solution to every problem

. . so I would suspect that there IS technology out there to redirect these things

In a different way, I suspect that the USA may become, if not already, it's own worst enemy !

Remembeer, alot of the weapons around the world have been developed and sold by the USA - right ?

In My Opinion, the reason that the USA was so sure that Saddam had WMD's was because Rummy SOLD them to them !!



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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:47 PM
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11. Ooooops a daisy!
Who would of thunk it!
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:17 AM
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13. Well, now they have that technology!
Worse than selling our technology is just giving it to them
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:35 AM
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15. Did you actually read the news item ?
"The plane... crash-landed... 20 miles south of the border"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:26 AM
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17. What are you trying to imply?
Perhaps you think Wen Ho Lee is guilty?
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:19 AM
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16. How do you say
"We're sorry, we're so sorry, we're extremely sorry" in Korean?

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:31 AM
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18. Hey don't worry
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 07:32 AM by DoYouEverWonder
Now that Richard Perle has sold Global Crossings to the Chinese (with W's publicly stated approval), the Chinese and everyone else will have an even easier time figuring out how and what we do.

Bye-bye national security.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:49 AM
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23. If it was a Board malfunction Easy to detect! Grounded 2oo Planes
When you ground 200 Spy planes well they must be suspicious about something! :bounce:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:09 AM
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24. Something's fishy
Considering that these are unmanned, so loss of life isn't an issue, you would think they'ld want to keep these things flying since the POTUS is in the region and they are all freaked out about his personal safety.

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