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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:18 PM
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Republican PR Firm behind anti Sheehan bus tour
Republican Shills

Move America Forward ( the Hate crowd ) was outed today by Keith Olbermann as having been launched by a Sacramento P.R. firm which has strong ties to the Republican party. Later in the segment Dana Milbank said that they were part of the Orin Hatch for President campaign. lol That's grassroots for you. This diary at Kos was the first one that I found which uncovered the scam.

The Swift boating of Cindy is led by Sal Russo and Mr. Puke himself Mark Williams. These people are bottom feeding scum suckers of the lowest kind. Their Creepy Caravan is nothing more than Republican operatives trying to combat a powerful message by Sheehan in the only way they know how to respond. S-M-E-A-R. Here's much more information about MAF's antics from the Center for Media and Democracy.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:21 PM
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1. "Orin Hatch for President"
:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:21 PM
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Hi, Elton
:hi:
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:24 PM
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3. Evenin', Ma'am.
:hi:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:25 PM
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5. May I join you?
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:02 PM
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16. Orin Hatch for...
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 11:02 PM by susanna
"Orin Hatch!" is more likely.

LOL...I'm sure a bigoted know-it-all Utah-ian will play well in all those horrific cesspool Blue cities filled with the folks who pay the Red states' taxes.

on edit, last para: sarcasm alert.
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nibbana Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 07:24 AM
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73. Pat Robertson or Falwell support a Mormon? Not in this lifetime
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:21 PM
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2. Republicans: a constant agenda of the politics of personal destruction.
They know no other way but to attempt to discredit and/or destroy that which threatens to expose them.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:22 AM
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46. bottom feeding scum suckers of the lowest kind
SCUM BAGS ALL

PURE ROVE---- ATTACK/VILLIFY

Only idiots listen to this Right Wing Hateful Nut-Job Trash
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:25 PM
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4. so good i nominated it again
:bounce:
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:30 PM
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6. Hmmmmm.
That linked to a poster at DKos called "Scout Finch". That sounds familiar but I just can't put my finger on it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:32 PM
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7. did you watch the video?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:58 PM
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13. YES! YES! YES!
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StuckinKS Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:06 AM
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24. Scout Finch
Young daughter of Atticus Finch, the protaganist from "To Kill a Mockingbird."
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:17 AM
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27. Roger that Stuck.
What part of Kansas are you "stuck" in?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:34 PM
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8. That was already known
Melanie Morgan pimped this whole nonsense on her hate radio show. She's one of the key clowns involved in this organization.
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thingsarelookingup Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 PM
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21. what happened to the Truth Tour...
wasn't Melanie spearheading that PR trip to Iraq also - looking for the truth? I emailed her and challenged her to go outside the green zone without guards. Of course no reply...the rightie talking heads all stick their fingers in their ears and go la, la, la, la, la,
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:22 AM
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30. The Truth Tour was remeniscent of the end of Spinal Tap.
'Ello Cleveland! Or in this case - 'Ello Baghdad!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:35 PM
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9. Bottom Line: how many supporters are actually on this bus and how many
will be at Crawford?

Let's make sure we outnumber them. This SHOULD NOT be a problem.

And then of course, Cindy will be coming to DC, right?

DC is blue, Maryland is blue and suburban VA is blue. Numbers WILL NOT be a problem.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:22 PM
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17. So what does this mean? The anti-war bus riders are being paid?
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:35 PM
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10. Manufactured news from the Corporate News Media........
this sounds like some kind of Plot to me. Freeper Fascist Assholes the lot of them.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:37 PM
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11. The shills are scrambling like mad these days it seems. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:41 PM
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12. Everything is a scam with these people, including this war.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:58 PM
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14. All the CRAP about "Cindy is a Puppet of the Leftwing..."
...and just look at this. WHO is a puppet of whom?

HA!

Pretentious Hypocrisy is the Hallmark of Republicans!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:59 PM
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15. Not particularly grassroots of them, eh?
Let's hope KO's prediction of it coming back to bite BushCo in the arse plays out.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:24 PM
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18. So the comment I read on another blog was true
I saw something on Hoffmania earlier today that had been posted this morning. It wasn't in the main blog, but in the comments. Here's the link to a post describing what I saw:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4450467&mesg_id=4450755

It's good to see that the MSM picked up on this. I was wondering if it was true and, apparently, it is.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:31 PM
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19. It had to be. Nobody volunteers for pro-government shit
nobody. It's always for pay. In the bush campaign everybody got paid, down to the people doing voter registration.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:36 PM
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20. Isn't this the same group who sent the embedded rw attack parrots...
to Iraq a month or so ago? The ones who all came back with glowing tales of how happy the troops were fighting the idiot emperor's war?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:19 AM
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28. Yes, it most definitely is the same group.
Why do I get the feeling that Karen Hughes is involved in this? It just reeks of Hughes/Rove and she was hired just before they went on that tour. She was hired to to sell, I mean "redefine", the war and confirmed 8/3/05. Looks like that pug tour hit Iraq around 8/11/05.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 PM
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22. Keep digging that hole, boys. Keep digging that hole.
They can't help themselves, can they? They're like Pavlov's dogs. They keep ringing the same bells expecting the same treat, but the situation has changed. They're not playing the same game, anymore. People are on to them. But, let them keep on. All they're doing now is adding exclamation points to the fact they are spineless, shit-filled, lying, hateful bastards.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:52 PM
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23. Do you mean "Moving America Backwards"?
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 11:55 PM by StopThePendulum
That astroturf group of bused-in fat cats posing as counterprotesters?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:08 AM
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25. nominated
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:11 AM
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26. Didn't get many takers from what I understand from people who went
to the AZ mexican food joint where the bus stopped.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:20 AM
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29. Where did you hear that? Although it's not surprising in the least.
Even my two-time Bush votin' Grandma cussed (in a polite, elderly lady-like way) Bush today.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:26 AM
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31. Here you go... endthewarnow is a yahoo group spawned by Camp Casey
In Phoenix Arizona. Those few countercasey lemmings for bushitler were here today.


Hi:

We attended the "You don't speak for me, Deborah Johns" welcoming
committee @ Arriba restaurant in Glendale. The anti-war group was not
very large, was not aggressive about crossing to the other side to get
in people's faces (as the bushies did), and did as asked by the
police. About 6 pm, restaurant management sent armed guards out to
tell anti-war protesters to get off the property. We were moved to a
very, very small area, between Arriba and mall property. I guess the
bright side is if we were ineffective and insignificant, they would
just ignore us! I don't need to get my Hatch chile fix from Arriba
anymore.
Above Posted at endthewarnow by kalavaughn

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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:46 AM
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32. Holy %^$@! Check out Arriba's website:
Edited on Thu Aug-25-05 12:57 AM by Scout1071
http://www.arribamexicangrill.com/

They actually have the event front page on their website.

Here is the contact info:

Arriba Mexican Grill®, Inc.
15025 North 74th Street
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
(480) 948-9969 tel
(480) 948-9970 fax
comments@arribamexicangrill.

Edited to fix the link.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:54 AM
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33. Oh boy we need to be after that don't we! Thanks for this find.
Damn thought I was going to get to go to bed!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:55 AM
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34. fix you link pretty please
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:57 AM
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35. They were actually on the west side, not the same restaurant, but same
chain...NEVER EAT'N in that dump again, if I ever did...I don't recall.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:58 AM
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36. That was the contact info listed on their website.
I didn't see one specific to that location.

PS - fixed the link.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:02 AM
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37. Cool are you going to put this in another thread or do you want me to?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:02 AM
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38. Go for it.
I'm off to bed.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:05 AM
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39. Right on... will
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:19 AM
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45. Got to remember not to eat there when we visit Arizona in February
I might swallow poison with my burrito...

And we DO like Mexican food!

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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 01:17 AM
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40. Good to see Olbermann pick up on these Make America Fascist imbeciles
I've been telling you DUers about these sieg-heiling morons for a while now. Their office is right here in downtown Sacramento. It's a joint effort of Sal Russo (the wannabe Karl Rove of California politics) and former Fresno (as in Free Republic) assemblyman Howard Kaloogian, and they're joined by some of the dimmer bulbs of the attack-dog right's Clear Channel division. Melanie Morgan is dumber than dirt, but she's no match for the jack-booted Clear Channel chipmunk named Mark Williams, who has used his KFBK/KSTE talk show to advocate "glassing" the Middle East with "tactical nukes," and got his paw slapped recently for telling SUV drivers to go ahead and run over bicyclists. A real piece of dung, that one is.

These people are Nazis, and you can bet they're all on the RNC payroll.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 AM
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41. florida 00 redux.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:28 AM
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42. yeah I wonder if any of them were at the Statue of Saddam in Baghdad
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:16 AM
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43. When they're hailed as "Patriots", coming to the rescue
as they pull into towns with the media at their heels. We MUST have people there to expose their dirty underpinnings. We should have their business cards blown up to poster size.. and find out how much they've been paid..
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:17 AM
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44. I still say that if the Democratic Party and Labor had any power
a convoy of teamsters would lead this little "exodus of the mis-informed" to Crawford at 2 MPH.

It would be great if just like in the "Battle of the Bulge", their primer painted "pick-em-up" trucks with "Jesus on a trailor hitch" ran out of gas due to the dwindling supply, and they all had to crawl back to their holes singing; "Ein Ole Zin Zevite"(sp)
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 06:46 AM
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47. Ah yes...
.... the best grassroots activism that money can buy.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:13 AM
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48. Nominated - their tactics need to be exposed and condemned
Not only did CREEPY REPUBLICAN OPERATIVE LIARS like these get away with attacking John Kerry, now they are going after a woman who has lost her son to a war which Bush himself LIED to get us into? Unfreakinbelievable! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:48 AM
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49. Republican Operatives operate with immunity from Corporate Media scrutiny
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:05 AM
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50. Doh!
That's ok.. we'll get um in the end.. THE REAR END! hehehe. :P
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:18 AM
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51. Same PR Firm that Ed Rollins of Ron Reagan's Gov and POTUS era.
While listening to Malloy last night a DU'er e-mailed about this Move America Forward (no imagination)PR Firm. Malloy also received a call from Chris Craft who informed him of the Ed Rollins connection to this PR Firm.


I wonder if this caravan is a paid vacation for the PR employees. Any bets on this being a big tax write-off for the loyal CON PR firm.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:48 AM
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71. Meet Ed Rollins
http://archives.cjr.org/year/94/1/cynicism.asp

read the whole thing to see how he operates. And this was back in 1994.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:46 AM
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52. I KNEW IT!
Nominated.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:30 AM
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54. kick
:kick:
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:30 AM
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53. Why am I not suprised? n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:38 AM
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55. if MAF's message was so right
why did they wait until the last moment to appear and protest against Cindy? It's like doing an 'Ebay' end run as the clock is in the final 1:30 of the auction.

That abysmal 30 some-odd % of the population who don't believe * is doing a bad job are all going to be on the bus.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 09:43 AM
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56. c'mon busplunge.. c'mon bus plunge
Please God, in your eyes, see this as a Gambling trip full of old ladies, and do unto them as you so frequently and humorously do unto little old women with too much cash - and flip the bus over a few times until the windows shatter and bodies fly out until you have seen in your Godly eyes them crushed beneath your might. And a bus.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:06 AM
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57. They always have to spend money to fight the common people. OK
but we will still win this one. The more money they waste the better.
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:50 AM
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58. Swift Bus Republicans for Vermouth n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 11:29 AM
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59. No surprise there.. "Stop the Vote Stop the vote"
"get outta cheney's house".. ring bells??

These are party owned,operated & financed operations..:puke:
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:09 PM
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60. Anti-Sheehan Bus Tour
Isn't that John Bolton driving the bus?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:25 PM
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66. That would be scarier
then Cowboy Neil on the bus to never-never land.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:12 PM
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61. They should bus the whole lot of thyem straight to Baghdad.
As Bill Maher said, it would be nice for our real troops to see actual combat fill these chickenhawk's trousers with 'duty'
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 12:33 PM
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62. Hey Cat !!! - More Info On Russo's Gang !!!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:09 PM
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64. Thanks WillyT. Now we just have to figure out how Hughes and
Rove fit into that little firm. Nothing goes on PR-wise regarding Iraq that isn't highly coordinated by the White House.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 02:45 PM
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63. kick
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:17 PM
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65. When are these people coming to LA so I can go throw things at them?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:28 PM
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67. I think we need to organize greeting committees
to meet this bus where ever it stops.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:54 PM
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69. Good idea! I wanna do some rioting!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 03:31 PM
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68. Now they've got Pat Boone smearing Cindy
Just saw on CNN. Guess they felt they needed some real star power!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 04:07 PM
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70. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
:hi:

Pat Boone?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 07:40 AM
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74. Pat Boone????
Geeze, I thought he was dead.

Wait...maybe it's just his career that's dead...

Anyone for Heavy Metal?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:07 AM
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75. Let's hope that Fabian and Dion don't get involved! n/t
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:31 AM
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76. LOL!
You better watch out--Art Linkletter's gonna getcha!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:48 AM
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72. No, you're kidding aren't you?
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SuperWonk Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:47 AM
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77. It is sad...
Objectively, I am going to say that this woman's initial attempt at a statement is being twisted by both sides... With Soros using her like the flavor of the week, and the cons bashing her too.

I think she is too deep now, and I am not sure she knows what she has gotten herself into.

I feel sorry for the woman, she IS being played the puppet. It is disturbing.
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