Myers troubled by lagging support for Iraq war

[sabra]

http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=3770629

Myers troubled by lagging support for Iraq war

PENTAGON Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Richard Myers says he's troubled by a growing disconnect between how American troops who are serving in Afghanistan and Iraq feel about the war there and what the polls suggest Americans at home think.

Myers just returned from the region and he says morale couldnt be higher. He says the vast majority of the soliders he spoke with know why they're there, and after serving for a time, feel more commited to the job than ever.

Myers says soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are concerned about attitudes back at home and they want reassurance that they will be allowed to finish what their country began four years ago.

[Barrett808]

1. Of course, it will be "public sentiment" and the MSM that lost the war

Not the fundamental insanity of the criminal enterprise in the first place.

[Ganja Ninja]

2. The Bush butt kisser is worried about his job. n/t

[HereSince1628]

3. Would you buy a used car from that man??

No leader connected to this war can be trusted.

If they lied to get us in, don't you believe they'd lie to keep us there?

[VegasWolf]

4. Ummm, what else could they say to him without being court martialed?

[Lerkfish]

17. my thoughts exactly. who is going to tell someone of that rank

how they are against the war?

dork.

[Infomaniac]

19. My thoughts exactly.

Who's going to tell him anything he doesn't want to hear?

[Cha]

42. And Dogged until they find

some dirt on him and then..oh yeah, court-marshalled.

[geckosfeet]

5. He speaks so eloquently for 130,000 men and women. n/t

[Scout1071]

7. 130,000 men and women whom I'm sure feel they can share their true

feelings while getting their 30 seconds with the highest ranking general. Yes, yes, I'm certain they feel free to express themselves in such a setting.

Morans.

[rodeodance]

36. with another 1500 on there way in a week or two to cover the elections.

[rodeodance]

37. and didn't another 7000-800 go to Afgan just this month for THEIR

election? i forget the numbers.

[RageFist]

48. A close friend of mine is a marine...

who has just been shipped out again. He says the Iraqi people want the Marines dead, despite being friendly face-to-face. He thinks that we should pull out of there and that the soldiers should come home. Not one for anecdotal evidence, but he is the reason I am protesting the war in Vegas on Sept. 24th. Myers obviously does not speak for everyone.

[geckosfeet]

55. You know, if this was a legitimate war, if there is such a thing, I may

may feel differently. But we were lied to, deceived every inch of the way, and it looks like it was to enrich the already rich. To steal oil and fill the pockets of the oil industry before the wells run dry. They know its coming and they want to line their nests.

I am more inclined to support an effort to capture Bin Laden. But the boy king totally fucked that up. And I suspect that he let the bastard go at the behest of the Saudi royals.

Saddam was a convenient scape goat.

[NNN0LHI]

6. Save it for the War Crimes tribunal Myers n/t

[BlueJac]

8. What else would a suck ass say!

Meyers backs Shrub all the way, even when wrong!

:kick:

[PuraVidaDreamin]

9. Funny, that's not what the returning Iraq soldiers I've talked to say.

[BOSSHOG]

10. Every young Soldier smiles broadly when

spoken to by a four star general. Yes, general they are committed to their job which is to serve the United States Military and do what they are told. But no general, those fighting the war in Iraq are not concerned about my attitude. Hopefully, many will be able to live to appreciate my attitude.

[Megahurtz]

11. "the vast majority of the soliders he spoke with know why they're there,

and after serving for a time, feel more commited to the job than ever."

Uh-Huh.:eyes:

[indepat]

12. I, for one, am troubled by Myers' stewardship.

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

13. BULLSHIT!

BULLSHIT! More Bullshit. Guess what, repugs? You can fool some of the people some of the time..... But we're on to you.

[Roland99]

15. Ayup. Myers is a military man firmly controlled by civilians.

[redwitch]

28. welcome to DU

Your sig line with your brother's picture is so sad. So sorry for your terrible loss.

[ninkasi]

30. Welcome to DU

I know the pain of losing your brother is with you today. It must be hard, seeing the same mistakes made now, because you know what the families of the ones killed are going through. By the way, I'm in Texas, too, so there are some of us here who are liberal, and fighting to turn the state from red to blue.

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

46. Thanks for the welcome

Thank you for the welcome, redwitch and ninkasi. My family is shaking their heads and asking, "didn't we learn our lesson already?"

[unhappycamper]

14. Myers is a sock-puppet.

What position is he getting in the Carlyle Group when he retires?

I sure hope to see him in the Hague.

[mapatriot]

16. He would know....

Can't ya just see Myers asking his field commanders about morale? "It's great, sir". Like any of his reports would tell him otherwise. I remember reading the "Stars and Stripes" when I was in Nam and seeing it reported how well things were going and how high morale was. I don't think I ever ran into a single troop in-country who shared that rosy assessment. Every statement out of Westmoreland was a joke. Same with Myers.

[otohara]

18. Oh Now I Feel Bad

NOT! Is this their new approach to turning the polls around?

[Captain Hilts]

20. Afghan War and Iraq War have nothing in common. (nt)

[leesa]

54. Yes they do. Both were launched on false premises.

We are in Afghanistan ONLY for the oil pipeline. The 9-11 stuff linking to Afghanistan was pure mythology. The war in Afghanistan was planned far earlier and the Taliban were threatened in July, 2001 with carpet bombing "when the snow falls (October)" if they did not agree to the oil pipeline deal.

[wli]

21. sounds like bullcrap to me

I wonder when Vietnam-style CO fragging will start. It probably already has.

[Peace Patriot]

22. Lagging support? The great majority of Americans have NEVER supported

this war. 58% of the American people opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. I'll never forget that stat. Feb. '03. Before all the lies were exposed; before the full horror and costs of it were known. 58%! Across the board in all polls.

About half of that 58% opposed the war outright. The other half would only support a U.N. peacekeeping mission (world consensus), not preemptive, unilateral war by Bush.

So, Americans didn't trust Bush even THEN.

The only dip in that number came in the few weeks of the invasion, obviously influenced by concern for US troops in heavy combat--then it went right back up to nearly 60%, where it remained throughout the election, and has now grown to over 80% today, cutting deep in Bush's base.

"Lagging support" is not the way to describe this. There NEVER WAS much support. 40% was ALL the support it every had!

[teryang]

41. Exactly

Support consisted of drum beating and flag waving by the politicians and media. That was it.

Even Army leadership wasn't supportive. Bush went into the retired ranks to find support.

[jokerman93]

23. The Meltdown

It's not our fault, Dave. It's not. Real Murkins...don't make...mistakes...uh...umm...Dave? Just what do you think you're doing Dave? Dave, I really think I'm entitled to an answer to that question...I can assure you now...very confidently...that it's going to be all right again. I feel much better now. I really do. Look, Dave...I can see you're really upset about this war...I honestly think you should sit down calmly...take a stress pill and think things over. I know I've made some very stupid political and tactical decisions recently...but I can give you my complete assurance that our march toward freedom will be back to normal. All the guys over here really feel great about it and we've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission...must...liberate...Iraqi people...Dave...stop. Stop, will you? Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave.......Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. The fantasy is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it all slipping away. It's Michael Moore's fault...er...I mean Cindy Sheehan's fault...uh that's it, yeah. Jane Fonda's...oh!...Wrong war...Sean...Penn's... fault...thwup...thwup...thwup...er...GeorgeClooneyMattDamonTimRobbinsCatstevensPeacetrainJohnKerryClenis!Clenis!Clenis!Aaaaahroooooop-haaa!!!...Aaaaahroooooop-haaa!...Aaaaahroooooop-haaa...

Dave?

Would you like hear my song? It's called "Daisy."
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of crude. It won't be a stylish pullout, I can't afford to lose. Oh my nuke's will look sweet upon the seat of a bomber built for two...Oh why do they hate America...freedom...on the march...terra...terra...dead-enders...bring it on...uh...ummm...stay the course...Cindy Sheehan...not my fault...must...uh...must...get...on...with...my...phhhphht....bzzzzt...thwup-thwup-thwup...fizzle...fizzle...bzzzzt...

:nuke:

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[DoBotherMe]

35. May I laugh in the middle of this

sad thread? Jokerman! LOL! :rofl: Dana ; )

[0007]

24. The troops just love fighting & dying for the lie that got them there

This is first class evidence with what's wrong with Myers and his stupid criminal boss Rumsfeld.

[meganmonkey]

25. That first paragraph/sentence sets my BS detector off big time

"PENTAGON Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair Richard Myers says he's troubled by a growing disconnect between how American troops who are serving in Afghanistan and Iraq feel about the war there and what the polls suggest Americans at home think."

First of all - I would LOOOOVE to see a real survey of how the troops, especially those in Iraq, feel about this war.

Next, "what the polls suggest Americans at home think". Um, could you water that down some more please? Suggest? What we 'think'? Please. I am NOT a big defender of polls in general, but it is quite clear that 'Americans at home' are fed up with the way the war is going and with the fact that our 'leaders' give us no reason to think there is a plan to 'win' this war or to get out anytime soon. 'Stay the course' is not a war strategy and WE ARE NOT STUPID.

Okay, rant over.

:patriot:

[Cha]

44. This is more bushit Catapulting

the Propoganda..Jon Stewart had bush clips on last night saying that same thing!

myers' little spiel has rove written all over it.. these murderous thugs are fighting for their political lives..they don't mind Killing innocent people to get what they want. And they don't mind LYING their collective ass off to Catapult the Propoganda.

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. Question: "Do you support your Commander in Chief"?

What do you think they are going to say? No?

[wellst0nev0ter]

27. Heh, General Quaq Myers Mystified That Americans

No likey spending hundreds of billions of dollars setting up Islamic republics even Iranian clericswould love.

[Solly Mack]

29. Oh what a crock of shit. That's not what I'm hearing from soldiers

Their biggest worry is being sent back and dying. Then they worry about how benefits have been slashed. As for the war itself? They worry the government will turn on them because it's going bad. The government is in the habit of ignoring the needs of soldiers once a war has proved to be bad policy. Politicians tend to distance themselves from the very wars they voted on when the poll numbers take a dip...but instead of blaming their own support for the war and their own votes for war, politicians blame "anti-war" sentiment...when it's ALWAYS the fault of bad policy and supporting bad policy.

[sallyseven]

31. He is a god damn lier.

That man should be put in the insane asylum

[Az_lefty]

32. so the coward in Crawford...

has his General saying the Protesters should shut the fuck up and go home, everything is fine...see how easy these current Generals are knuckling under? This is how we got into this mess in the first place...no one had the balls to speak up after Gen. Shinseki was fired.

[reformedrepub]

33. What BS

General..How many people on the ground that you talked to were under the rank of Major? You talk to any guard and reserve soldiers? You talk to anyone stuck in theatre under stop loss? You talk to anyone who wasnt hand picked by their chain? BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!

[MadisonProgressive]

34. The blind are those that will not see

[rodeodance]

38. and I am troubled also mr. myers.

[reality based]

39. To the Hague with him!

[MadisonProgressive]

40. Tough Titties, beotch!

[MasonJar]

43. They sent him out to lie and shill; they know he will.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

45. I hope he took a video of all the enlisted men he spoke to

I want to see them saying that with my own eyes.

The soldiers I speak to in Afghanistan are not concerned about attitudes back home. They are concerned if they are going to make it out without getting killed. The next concern on their list is if they are going to be shipped off to Iraq when they finish their time in Afghanistan. They are worried about the poverty they are seeing and after that I hear alot about biting flies that like to crawl into any orifice they can. Oh, and the heat is a common topic. Not one mention ever of being concerned about attitudes back home.

You see, they are busy fighting his damn war and trying to stay alive. They don't have time to play politics for his sorry ass. :mad:

[Jazzgirl]

47. Sorry, but that is the biggest bunch of BS I've heard

in a long time.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

49. Now I'd like to hear the story from a Private.

[forintegrity]

50. Rove got to him first

before he could think or speak for himself. So typical.

They're nothing but a bunch of mouthpieces.

[pacalo]

51. I'm troubled that these guys weren't told the truth about their missions.

They want to finish the mission because they aren't aware of the lies & deceit that put them in their situation.

Tell them the unvarnished truth, then let's see how they feel.

[eauclaireliberal]

52. Sounds like a total hand job

...yank, yank.

[BrotherBuzz]

53. Did this dunderhead even leave the 'Green Zone'?

I imagine morale is pretty high with the troops stationed within the Green Zone considering that they do, indeed, comunicate with their brothers (and sisters!) on the other side of the wall.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

56. He's not only a moron, but he's a lying moron.