CBS: 9/11 Accusations Fly Within CIA (rebuttals to IG's rpt filed)

[Rose Siding]

(CBS/AP) CIA Director Porter Goss must decide whether to heed the recommendation of his top watchdog to hold disciplinary reviews for current and former officials who were involved in faulty intelligence efforts before the Sept. 11 attacks.

But CBS News has learned that all of the former top CIA officials singled out in the inspector general's report have already filed strong rebuttals to the agency.

The officials named in the report — including former CIA Director George Tenet — view the inspector general's report as "wrongheaded and wildly off the mark," a former intelligence official told CBS News correspondent Peter Maer.

Despite that, the official, who is close to Tenet, said the report will "send a chill" through the CIA, which he describes as already "devastated."........

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/26/terror/main797251.shtml

[Parche]

CIA

It wasnt faulty intelligence.........how can it be when its
an inside job done by the CIA?

[Amonester]

4. Yeah. And that's why the VeePee had to visit 'em so often.

An all-time's record times, in fact...

[Old and In the Way]

5. Do you think Tenet was a "player"?

Was he in on the PNAC plan? Somehow, as a CLinton appointee, I really don't think so.

I really don't understand why this administration didn't immediately pin the 9/11 failure on Tenet nor why Tenet didn't spill what damaging information he had with this administrtaion's obvious disregard for the intelligence he was privvy to. Supposedly, CIA fails on 9/11 and Iraqi WMD.....but Bush gives Tenet a freedom medal? Hmmmm....me thinks there's a mini-MAD scenario involved between the 2. Each has something on the other that keeps them in check.

[blm]

11. I think Tenet was "played" by the fascist cabal that took over in Jan 2001

He probably never expected them to be as dead set against democracy as they proved to be during their tenure.

[jaysunb]

15. I agree.

Ambition is not always rewarded with success.

[chomskysright]

56. KICK! CIA is fall guy re: GREAT GAME FOR OIL w/ hidden key players...

Dennett: Into the Buzzsaw: p. 69:

"The fact is, what's happening now is merely the latest phase of the Great Game for Oil that began not in the 1970s where most attention seems to be focused, but well ove ra century ago. It is, and always has been , a deadly game of competition among nations with ambitions of empire....Americans including those who consider themselves well educated and wel linformed on world issues, are totally ignorant of this background....Jordan's boundaries were actually drawn to follow the pipeline's rights of way...

[chomskysright]

57. Balfour decision, 1917: favoured establishm. in Palestine home for...

Jewish people. Prime Minister Churchill would later admit that the so called Balfour Declaration was based on strategic wartime concerns rather tha humanitarian concern for the plight of Europeawn Jews...The fact that Britain's atrade routes from the eastern Mediterranean through the Suez Canal and the Red Sea were also tanker routes has, to my knowledge, never been explored, anmost likely because Great Britain, like the US, has been careful to conceal its oil interests under the lid of national security.....

Dennett: INto the Buzz Saw: The War on Terror, pp. 72-74

[chomskysright]

58. and Neocon dominance deemed to be#1 2002-03 most censored media story:

Project Censored, out of Sonoma State:

[chomskysright]

59. 1997: PNAC creation: Rebuilding America's Defenses:"

In 1997, while Clinton was in power, the neocons founded the Project for a New American Century, PNAC, with journalist William Kristol as chairman. IN September 2000 the PNAC put out a report entitled Rebuilding Amerca's Defenses. The report stated, "at present, the US faces no global rival. America's grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous posaition as far into the future as possible..." p. 80, INto the BuzzSaw

[Zhade]

16. Well, Tenet probably fears a bullet or a small plane crash.

That is kinda the M.O. of these fucks.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. I would imagine that the NeoCons fear the same from Tenet....

...remember that the last two elected presidents to buck the CIA failed to finish their terms: JFK and Nixon.

[Zhade]

24. This is true...and once Agency, always Agency, eh?

NT!

[GoBlue]

45. I sincerely hope I'm wrong...

but I suspect Tenet was a 'suck up' to promote himself. And is usually the case 'suck ups' cave when 'called' upon to do so.

[OKthatsIT]

52. maybe there's a future Carlyle job, after the investigations?

lots of those 'carrots' going around.

[goforit]

12. Inside job by the WH.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. You've got the wrong acronym....try OSP or OSI.

[jp4peace]

41. And here lies the rub. Where the hell was intel on this then n/t

[ooglymoogly]

51. you've got that right

the 5gone is the culprit in 9/11 and the mess we now find ourselves...they are a shadow govt unto themselves moving puppets in and out of the cia,fbi,the wh and the media and you can bet they have scrubbed all records so we will never know what really happened...9/11 was a truly special plan.

[Old and In the Way]

1. Maybe this will loosen some toungues.

I imagine Tenet has lots of interesting information that'd tell a whole different story about intelligence and 9/11.

[brentspeak]

6. I don't think Tenet's going to talk

He has embraced his assigned role as Bush's fall guy with lots of gusto. It's really sickening.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. Sometimes more can be done behind the scenes than on center stage...

...you have to remember that Tenet spent a lifetime working behind the scenes, that's where he's most effective.

I suspect that Tenet is currently acting as a double-agent. On the one hand, I believe that is making the NeoCons believe that he still supports them, while on the other hand, he is helping to release a constant stream of information damning to the NeoCons.

Too many DUers want to accept too many things at face value...you've got to remember that all that we see and hear publicly is not what it seems.

[jp4peace]

40. and it may also be his very big mistake n/t

[CityDem]

54. I agree

Tenet will not blow the lid off. He has to make his millions in the corporate world.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. -snippety snap-

Beth Marple, spokeswoman for National Intelligence Director John Negroponte, said, "As expected, there has been discussion between Director Negroponte and Director Goss about this report. But there were absolutely no efforts to kill it."

[jp4peace]

42. Give em hell Goss, Give em HELL, Now maybe we find the Common Good

Thank the Lord, it is about damn time.

[annabanana]

48. Goss is not on our side, kiddo..

The intelligence was good... but a lot of the intelligence wasn't wanted, and was ignored, or sunk deliberately. (And not by the career intel people,either)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

55. Please say you're kidding.

Please.

[VegasWolf]

3. Loose tongues sink little bushes. nt

[goforit]

13. I guess we'll have to see it to believe it.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. Where do you think all of the damaging information originated....

...that has appeared in the media over the last couple of years?

Who broke the Abu Ghraib stories and to whom is he connected?

Who demanded that the DoJ launch a criminal investigation into the public compromise of Valerie Plame, and where has that led us at the current time?

There are lots of other examples, but I think you get the picture.

[jp4peace]

43. Good for those Brave Men and Women who did that great work

No one is saying, or at least I am not saying we don't have very good people in intel. in fact we have some of the very best in the world, however whatever is dark, is dark. Given there are shades of gray.

For the sake of the Common Good of the United States of America.

It is time for the light of day, Good, Bad, and ugly.

If anyone thinks the so called Power Elite is more important than the Common Good of the United States of America.

My guess is They are dead Ass Wrong.

Would you like to see an example of that fact.

the chance to simply go retire and play golf may have just gone out the door, at least in this country. they might have some good courses in Iraq, however my feeling is this.

Why not be a True America Hero, and Speak Truth to Power.

It is inside every former officer in this land and yet what do I see....

http://crawfordpeace.nfshost.com/node/1504

A sister of a fallen soldier needs to point out, two totally different views on the same subject matter, based on what?

An My Dad is rolling over in his grave. I am still going to keep the FLAG and they were very good to my family when I could hardly stand, I loved that man so. I have been nothing without him, but what he taught me to be. Do the children matter? What about the Grand Children, do they matter?

Politics before Country? Maybe some, however they will have made a major mistake. Just as Tenet.

[FormerRepublican]

7. This is turning into an internecine war.

There are two sides fighting it out in our government. I only hope that the good guys win.

MAN, I hope Fitzgerald is worth his pay.

[Burried News]

49. Which side is Likud backing?

Maybe Judy knows?

[Barrett808]

8. "Wildly off the mark" -- Isn't that what Wolfowitz said about Shinseki

Re the troop requirements for occupying Iraq...

[goforit]

14. Interesting.....same jargon. Great footprint mark.

[Al-CIAda]

17. yes sir. nt

[Eloriel]

9. I don't believe this comment

Despite public outcries for accountability, many in the intelligence community believe Goss would be loath to try to discipline popular former senior officials and cause unrest within the agency.

I don't believe that for a minute. Goss is the Bush Crime Family's man. He'll do whatever serves them best, period.

[jp4peace]

44. Where is the research on this

REad what? Whole bunch of good people over there.

OK, How in the hell am I going to tell who is good and who is bad?

Anyone got any bright Ideas on this.

Domestic, international, and Mil.

anybody HAVE A GOOD strong list of the very best this country has TO OFFER in each service?

My guess is it runs into the thousands on all sides. What I am saying is the Foundation of this country is STRONG AS LONG AS WE START TALKING ABOUT THE COMMON GOOD.

FORGET THIS PARTY CRAP. RIGHT WING, LEFT WING, WHO GIVES A DAMN.

ITS TIME TO STAND UP AND SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

[stevedeshazer]

10. And Bushco awarded Tenet a Medal of Freedom.

That could be a bit embarrassing.

[NYC]

30. He certainly did.

[wli]

18. The report says they were ordered to do it by Cheney? n/t

[Verve]

22. I was wondering about the this. With Bush getting it from all

sides, it's about time he brought in a scapegoat. That's more in character for him and Cheney. I'm just hoping the CIA won't take this lying down.

[lala_rawraw]

25. Ah, given that the CIA was not invovled, but the FBI however

Was, this becomes one hell of a lie. The CIA, however, has taken the blame for everything and if it did not want to be "devastated" it could, given its resources, release some very damaging information. They choose silence and as such, they choose their devestation.

[Old Mouse]

26. ...long term planning

why decimate the CIA?

it's long term planning, not reactionary vengeance and cover-up. I wish some on our side would anticipate rather than just investigate.

The takeover and neutering of the CIA doesn't halt the revelation of American atrocities or presidential complicity, it blacks out knowledge of the actions of other sovereign nations.

Why do they want to do this? Wy have they been planning to do this for so long?

[wli]

29. they've allied with other soveriegn nations for military incursions

i.e. they want to blind the US so when they lead foreign military forces (likely mercenaries) against US citizens for their new holocaust they can do so unobserved.

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. Let's hope the CIA purges by the neocons left enough patriotic agents that

more will retire and step forward with evidence that rebuts this effort to blame everything on the CIA, when it was primarily the White House and the stovepiping of selective bogus intelligence by the Pentagon OSP civilians.

We need a functional CIA - the purges by neocon loyalists not only is intended to cover their crimes but also has crippled the ability to gather real intelligence. This is another plus to the neocons - I believe it's the real reason Plame was outed: not to discredit her husband but to wipe out the WMD intelligence gathering abilities of her and Brewster-Jennings, the CIA cover company.

The neocons have their own lies to spread and their criminal conspiracies to cover up. That includes their plans to attack Iran, possibly with Israel. Please see this thread, and don't skip reply #42:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2037110
Thread title: All the pieces are on the board, folks....time to get worried

[wli]

31. truly terrifying... the terrorists (Bushler et al) have terrorized me n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

33. We should USE this: I believe that showing the reasons to FEAR the Bush

Administration will be even more effective than showing our ANGER at it. A LOT of people in this country are very worried that the neocons are out of control. We need to show them what this means and what may well happen if they aren't STOPPED.

Let's USE these true reasons for fear, not for paralysis but for mobilization.

[wli]

34. WTO/FTAA/RNC police brutality as part of campaign commercials?

The DLC would never let it happen.

[Nothing Without Hope]

35. The DLC doesn't have to have control over all commercials. There can be

ones that are NOT for a particular candidate but are exposing the neocons' plans and actions.

If we are held back by the right wing of the DLC, there will be no change.

[wli]

36. How did Cindy Sheehan's commercial get on the air?

How did it get made? Maybe following that model, the neocons gestapo tactics can be publicized.

[Burried News]

50. Maybe the DLC can give us some positive guidance on this?

Great post.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. so the real war in DC has now started

this will become quite ammusing, NOT

[ngGale]

32. The decision being in the hands of Porter Goss ...

Mr. Iran-Contra, gives me pause to wonder. I suppose it comes down to who does Goss appreciate most, this corrupt administration or his country. :sarcasm:

[bpilgrim]

37. they'll fire all those standing in the way of the neoCONs.

SLAM-DUNK

peace

[DemInDistress]

I remember reading a comment made by

George Tenet on the morning of 911 regarding the 1st commercial jet
crash flight 11..Bush after hearing of crash,"must be some terrible pilot" while tenet was heard saying,"I hope it wasn't that Moussouai
guy I spoke to bush about..also when Tenet testified publicly and was asked this,"did you meet with Bush during aug.2001 about the PDB.
Tenet lied and said,"I was away in maryland and bush was in crawford.Later Kean and Tenet amended his testimony to include meeting bush on aug,18 2001 days after Moussouai arrested,then spent the day at crawford on aug 25 2001 with condi franks other big shots,what did they discuss? then Tenet admits he met with bush on Aug 31 2001, by then the french updated moussouai was al-queda a bad guy..10 days later 911..the whole story stinks smells of complicity.
keep in mind i believe the whitehouse must approve or they'll redact any direct connections to 911...

[DemInDistress]

38. I remember reading a comment made by

George Tenet on the morning of 911 regarding the 1st commercial jet
crash flight 11..Bush after hearing of crash,"must be some terrible pilot" while tenet was heard saying,"I hope it wasn't that Moussouai
guy I spoke to bush about..also when Tenet testified publicly and was asked this,"did you meet with Bush during aug.2001 about the PDB.
Tenet lied and said,"I was away in maryland and bush was in crawford.Later Kean and Tenet amended his testimony to include meeting bush on aug,18 2001 days after Moussouai arrested,then spent the day at crawford on aug 25 2001 with condi franks other big shots,what did they discuss? then Tenet admits he met with bush on Aug 31 2001, by then the french updated moussouai was al-queda a bad guy..10 days later 911..the whole story stinks smells of complicity.
keep in mind i believe the whitehouse must approve or they'll redact any direct connections to 911...

[DemInDistress]

39. sorry..another duplicate post..

George Tenet on the morning of 911 regarding the 1st commercial jet
crash flight 11..Bush after hearing of crash,"must be some terrible pilot" while tenet was heard saying,"I hope it wasn't that Moussouai
guy I spoke to bush about..also when Tenet testified publicly and was asked this,"did you meet with Bush during aug.2001 about the PDB.
Tenet lied and said,"I was away in maryland and bush was in crawford.Later Kean and Tenet amended his testimony to include meeting bush on aug,18 2001 days after Moussouai arrested,then spent the day at crawford on aug 25 2001 with condi franks other big shots,what did they discuss? then Tenet admits he met with bush on Aug 31 2001, by then the french updated moussouai was al-queda a bad guy..10 days later 911..the whole story stinks smells of complicity.
keep in mind i believe the whitehouse must approve or they'll redact any direct connections to 911...

[Peace Patriot]

47. And if Colleen Rowley had gotten into Moussaoui's computer, prior to 9/11,

it would have led her to....(this is really, really, really, really strange)...Nicholas Berg!

After Berg's interrogation in U.S. custody, release onto the streets of Baghdad in the middle of the Falluja uprising, capture, and beheading (with tape), in May 2004--making his death the cause celebre of Freeperville (counter to the Abu Ghraib photos, just released)--it came out in news stories that Berg had been previously questioned by the FBI, post 9/11, when they found his email address and password in Zacharias Moussaoui's computer, which, according to Berg's father (I believe) occurred as the result of a chance encounter on a bus in 1999, when stranger Moussaoui asked Nicholas to borrow his computer, and Nicholas complied.

So, the most famous beheading since Anne Boleyn just so happens to have a connection to the most famous terrorist act since the sacking of Rome by the Visigoths, but nobody in the war profiteering corporate news monopolies gives a crap about that, and doesn't follow up.

[farmbo]

46. God forbid that anyone in the Bush Administration should be disciplined..

..FOR THE BIGGEST INTELLIGENCE FAILURE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!

:sarcasm:

[StateSecrets]

53. IG Report ...then what

Let's say they put the unclassified or declassified version of this report out; then what? That's the question my friend. In the past two years DOJ-IG has released several damning 'unclassified' or 'declassified' report re: FBI. Guess what? No follow up by the congress, no hearings, thus no accountability. Do you see a chairman of a committee with a spine who'll call for a hearing?! I don't.