Bush Cites Philippines as Model in Rebuilding Iraq

[TheReligiousLeft]

Wasn't the Philippines a colony? Colonialism-->bad... right? Eh, just read the article, Bush doesn't out and out say "Iraq-->Colony."

MANILA, Oct. 18 — President Bush told the Congress of this former American colony on Saturday that Iraq, like the Philippines, could be transformed into a vibrant democracy. He also pledged his help in remaking the troubled and sometimes mutinous Philippine military into a force for fighting terrorism.

In an nine-hour visit, Mr. Bush for the first time drew explicit comparisons between the transition he is seeking in Iraq and the rough road to democracy that the Philippines traveled from the time the United States seized it from Spain in 1898 to the present day.

"Some say the culture of the Middle East will not sustain the institutions of democracy," Mr. Bush said, taking on the critics of his oft-stated goal to use Iraq as a laboratory for spreading democratic institutions in the Middle East. "The same doubts were once expressed about the culture of Asia. Those doubts were proven wrong nearly six decades ago."


<http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/19/international/asia/19PREX.html?ex=1067140800&en=5d88c1e5ffa79e5e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE>

[Wwagsthedog]

1. Philippine Model

Checkout the third topic for sure. bush is counting on the poor historical perspective of US citizens to be just as prevalent elsewhere. What a total hypocrite.

http://www.tribo.org/history/history3.html

[IndianaGreen]

2. The Philippines is owned by about 200 wealthy families

that rule behind the iron fist of the military, and the reactionary Cardinal Jaime Sin.

President Arroyo herself toppled the democratically elected President Estrada in a bloodless coup, brought about after Estrada made noises about social reforms.

[saigon68]

13. THEY LOVE THE US THERE TOO.

This photo was taken while the CHIMPANZEE visited.

It shows the natives throwing kisses and flowers !!!!


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[0007]

3. Why Oh Why? ?

Does the Philippines buy into junior's lies. Second hand equipment for a first war on terrorist?

Now if they had oil or something our greedy money lords wanted, it would be a differnt story, 'eh?

[tlcandie]

4. The majority of its citizens do NOT ...

All you have to do is look at the protests and watch FSTV and LINK to know this. Again, it is the FEW elite that run this country. It is country trying to do what South Americans are trying to do...TAKING back THEIR rights and powers!

[IndianaGreen]

5. Philippines have oil, but they have an even bigger natural gas

reserves in the Sulu Sea, which is surrounded by islands where guerrillas operate.

[David Zephyr]

6. What an Ignorant and Vulgar Statement from Bush's Ugly Lips.

How crass can one get? The "culture of the Middle East" and "the culture of Asia"?

"Some say the culture of the Middle East will not sustain the institutions of democracy...The same doubts were once expressed about the culture of Asia. Those doubts were proven wrong nearly six decades ago."

[Gloria]

7. The Phillipines is totally corrupt! Reading the papers there is like

reading about the US!! Latest scandal for Arroyo involves her brother or some relative and money and something illegal about campaingn funding....sounds just like home!

Arroyo is a piece of work herself. Sounds like Schwartzeneggar...first she says she's not running again, then suddenly, she indicates she will. Then she puts on her "religious act" and immediately visits a lot of churches and does that routine....UGH!!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

8. After the much protested empirical takeover of the Pilippines

over 100 years ago, we are still there with military bases, and the country is probably best known as the place to go for cheap prostitutes.

Yeah, George. 100 years of America and what a bastion of Democratic principals and opportunity for the populace. You know, Twain wrote his War Prayer in answer to our invasion of these islands. It's my guess if he were alive today he'd "mother-of-dog-slap" you.

[benfranklin1776]

9. Indeed he would.

The shame is that none of these supposedly educated leaders have learned from history, so here we are reliving the McKinley era of naked imperialism and wanton embrace of empire. If Junior wants to repeat the Phillipine experience I submit he is well on his way since the occupation is fuelling a resistance movement just as our occupation of the Phillipines gave rise to the Filipino insurrection.

[northzax]

12. exactly my reaction

so we say that the Phillippines are a model for Iraq? and then announce a plan to provide aid to the Islands (hell, we do owe it to them, but still) so we can expect to be providing aid to Iraq, and introducing new schemes to modernize it, in 2108? that's how long we've been 'helping' the Phillipines, 105 years and counting.

damn. what a fucking idiot.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

10. The Philippines as a shining example?

What next, Honduras as a shining example for the Western Hemisphere?

In 1965, both South Korea and the Philippines were desperately poor military dictatorships. But Park Chung Hee had enough of the Confucian ethic (i.e. the ruler should do what's best for the people) in him to spend his country's resources on education and infrastructure. As we all know, Ferdinand Marcos sent his country's resources to Swiss banks.

Today, Korea is an industrial powerhouse striving to catch up with Japan's standard of living, and the Philippines is still poor and seems to export mostly people: professionals to work in the U.S. or the Middle East, bar hostesses and day laborers to work in Japan.

If the present state of the Philippines is all the Iraqi people have to look forward to, they'd better start packing their suitcases now.

[Classical_Liberal]

11. It's disgusting!

but not surprising. He would call a piss poor colony a democracy.

[dArKeR]

15. If no Media Whores write about this statement it's more than

disgusting! The PI has more than a jump on ALL other Asian/SE Asian economies and democracy (US Military bases in the PI), than any other country in the area. What dirt filthy sucking mess the country is! Have you ever been there? Nothing total corruption, mafia, gangs, child prostitution (next to Shemale Arroyo's Palace), poverty, disease... with the 200 Bush Crime Family type elites living in there Makati fortresses.

I am 100% on Estratda being taken out on an orchestrated coup.

What a disgrace our American media is!!!!!

But more than that, Bush is the most disgraceful person to ever enter the White House!

The Philippine Gov. is dirty scum sucking slugs. Things were better under Marcos. Democracy Iraq style.

Such nice people. So many forced to live their lives alone working in other countries where the native population looks down on them as scum. Aquino, Ramos, Arroyo you'll have a special place in hell!

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Did the Philippine government bomb its own people to attract U.S. military might? Was the CIA involved? And why was there so little media coverage?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030820/COKLEIN20/TPColumnists

[dArKeR]

18. More than disgusting. PI is alive only because of PI overseas contract

To: Media
From: Me

PI is alive only because of PI overseas contractworkers! And it's not a pleasent contract! They are beaten, abused, raped, sex slaves, forced into prostition, besides their day job domestic slaves and/or local slave contract workers. If any of them try to complain they're killed, beaten and/or terminated and sent back to the PI. Good luck filing charges from the PI in a foreign country which your Passport VISA has been cancelled.

Did you also know that these workers' passports are confiscated by their employer while they are under contract? So they couldn't even try to escape these conditions.

The workers are not allow to bring their spouse so it's a life apart for decades. They might might once every 2 years during Christmas for 1 week.

This really is so disgusting! Bush has crossed a line into Hell which could only mean one thing, Bush is an incarnation of Satan himself!

If no reporters in the world call Bush on this 'PI Model' then our Earth is as good as dead.

I've done a search on google but only reports from 1995-96 come up?
Taiwan is into the 40,000s now. The link below says 56.
Stats
http://www.emz-berlin.de/Statistik/asphi003.htm

THE BREADWINNERS:
FEMALE MIGRANT WORKERS
http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/3321/win15a.htm

Bleeding overseas workers dry
http://gina.ph/CyberDyaryo/features/f2000_0523_01.htm

The American Media disgraceful!

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[DisgustipatedinCA]

14. Does DIMWIT have any idea what the US did in the Philipines?

I'm typing directly from my copy of A People's History of the United States, by Anthony Zinn.

(page 315)
A captain from Kansas wrote: “Caloocan was supposed to contain 17,000 inhabitants. The Twentieth Kansas swept through it, and now Caloocan contains not one living native.” A private from the same outfit said he had “with my own hand set fire to over fifty houses of Filipinos after the victory at Caloocan. Women and children were wounded by our fire.”
A volunteer from the state of Washington wrote: “Our fighting blood was up, and we all wanted to kill ‘niggers.’…This shooting human beings beats rabbit hunting all to pieces.”

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(further down on page 315)

In November 1901, the Manila correspondent of the Philadelphia Ledger reported:

“The present war is no bloodless, opera bouffe engagement; our men have been relentless, have killed to exterminate men, women, children, prisoners and captives, active insurgents and suspected people from lads of ten up, the idea prevailing that the Filipino as such was little better than a dog…Our soldiers have pumped salt water into men to make them talk, and have taken prisoners people who held up their hands and peacefully surrendered, and an hour later, without an atom of evidence to show that they were even insurrectos, stood them on a bridge and shot them down one by one, to drop into the water below and float down, as examples to those who found their bullet-loaded corpses.

And on page 316:

In Manila, a Marine named Littletown Waller, a major, was accused of shooting eleven defenseless Filipinos, without trial, on the island of Samar. Other marine officers described his testimony:

“The major said that General Smith instructed him to kill and burn, and said that the more he killed and burned the better pleased he would be; that it was no time to take prisoners, and that he was to make Samar a howling wilderness. Major Waller asked General Smith to define the age limit for killing, and he replied “Everything over ten.”

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

16. I knew it had been bad, but had not read first hand accounts before.

Thanks for posting.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

17. Is this what you mean, George?

In Manilla.
That's the way they'll feel in Iraq for a long time, Georgie.
If things are so great all over, why don't you go for a walk in Tikrit?