Galloway To Go On Anti-War Tour of US With Jane Fonda

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Galloway to go on anti-war tour of US with Jane Fonda

By Andrew Buncombe in Washington

Published: 27 August 2005


George Galloway, the anti-war MP for Bethnal Green and Bow who rocked the US Senate earlier this year, is to be accompanied on a speaking tour of America by the actress and activist Jane Fonda.

Few things are more likely to antagonise US conservatives than the combination of Mr Galloway and Ms Fonda - still hated by the right because of her outspoken opposition to the war in Vietnam - joining to condemn the American presence in Iraq. But Mr Galloway can expect a thunderous reception from those he impressed with his performance before a Senate committee last May.

In a statement, Mr Galloway, the Respect MP, said: "I'm really pleased and excited to be going back to America to campaign against this illegal war and occupation. And to have Jane Fonda join me is fantastic. I'll be able to get that autograph at last."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article308466.ece

[meganmonkey]

1. That's pretty bad-ass

:popcorn:

[The Blue Knight]

3. Jane Fonda is not the spokeswoman the anti-war movement needs

[Gloria]

5. Agreed, this will dilute his message. The spinners will be

bringing up Vietnam again and you can be sure you'll see her on that tank.

DUMB MOVE, GEORGE!!

You want to get more people to listen, not have them dig deeper into their delusions...and feed the Rove media machine. It could become a horrible diversion....

[Zhade]

64. Isn't it good if they bring up Viet Nam?

Only idiots and far right nutjobs ignore the fact that we lost in Viet Nam thanks to guerrilla warfare by an "insurgency", and that there are some striking parallels to that time and this war.

Maybe it'll jostle some brains, get them to make the connection?

As others have said, to these people we're traitors just for being against the war. Fuck their spin, I say shove it in their face and make them eat it.

[Peace Patriot]

70. I agree, Zhade! Our government was absolutely in the wrong in Vietnam,

and it's time we stop permitting idiots and warmongers to vilify her. I'm so sick of this--of our letting idiots and warmongers set the agenda! When are we going to learn?

Jane Fonda made a P.R. mistake, nothing more. She was alone on the trip. She had no P.R. person, no advisers. She was very young, and also injured (twisted ankle) and exhausted from very difficult travel; she sat down in the wrong place; someone took a picture, and they've been using it ever since to destroy her credibility. She was/is a PEACENIK, for godssakes! She wasn't about to shoot anybody! She had NO HOSTILITY to U.S. servicemen, knew many of them personally--and had organized numerous meetings on their behalf, and for their sake.

She was absolutely right to go to Hanoi, to verify the U.S. bombing of civilian targets (which is what she was there for). Our government was absolutely in the wrong, and was lying through its teeth.

Why isn't her incredible courage ever mentioned? Her incredible political consciousness--to undertake a trip like that?! Why do WE of the left dwell on that one P.R. mistake, just like the rightwing warmongers? Why do WE cringe beneath disgusting rightwing attacks?

She is such a threat to the warmongers! She really is! Barbarella turned antiwar protester. A woman who turned against the Hollywood trivialization of women! A woman who refused to be used, who refused to be silent, and who stood up for American soldiers who were being thrown like cannon fodder by the tens of thousands into that dreadful war--against the freedom fighters of Vietnam, who had never done ANYTHING against the U.S., and in fact admired the U.S., and quoted the Declaration of Independence in letters to our government.

Vietnam needs to be stuck in their faces! We need to NOT GET OVER VIETNAM! And, as citizens, we need to fight this civic battle all over again.

Here we are, in another unjust, trumped up, illegal, horrible, unconstitutional war--all over again!--in a country where we have NO RIGHT TO BE, against people who are defending their homes and their culture against malicious invasion.

I just read Fonda's book, and one story of that trip stood out to me. She was in a jeep going down a rough dirt road toward the country dikes upon which all of Hanoi depended for water, and that had been bombed. U.S. bombers arrived overhead and started bombing the road. The Vietnamese had dug millions on one-person manholes out of the dirt along roads for people to jump into when needed (it's how they won the war, really--by burrowing in). There was a little girl along the road carrying a schoolbag. When the bombs started hitting, she and Jane got into the manhole--a tight squeeze--until the bombing stopped and the planes were gone. When they emerged, Fonda told the little girl how sorry she was that her country was bombing the little girl's country, and that it was a tragedy. This little girl, 9 or 10 years old, replied, "The tragedy is not in my country. It is in yours."

The truth is, we were on the WRONG SIDE in that war. Ho Chi Minh was the democratically elected president of Vietnam, in U.N. sponsored elections. We should have supported him and the new Vietnamese government, which ASKED FOR OUR SUPPORT since they saw US as their model for declaring their independence (from France--at the end of WW II). Instead, the U.S. sent the CIA in there and created a puppet government in the south, that never had any viability--it stank with corruption. And the war machine now had its purpose and its corporate pigsty for the '60s.

Totally corrupt, totally wrong, totally heinous war. Over a million people slaughtered and the Vietnamese countryside laid waste.

And that little girl could say, "The tragedy is not in my country. It is in yours."

We never did learn that we were on the wrong side. We should have learned it. We never did. And we never did learn that, when you have a humongous great war machine, it WILL make war. It is an irresistible temptation to fascist warmongers and war profiteers. We should have dismantled this aggressive, offensive war machine then and there. That should have been the lesson of Vietnam. We should have reduced it to defense against invasion capability, and we should have REJECTED all ambition for empire, then and there!

And we didn't learn it. And that's what she meant. Our military machine has not protected us; it has destroyed us as a just, and peaceful, and democratic country. "The tragedy is in yours."

[ElectroPrincess]

Jane Fonda was in her THIRTIES - she was NOT Young /eom

[ElectroPrincess]

Dupe

[ElectroPrincess]

76. Dupe - sorry my keys are sticking :-) Delete

[bobbieinok]

74. many think we lost b/c of 'Hanoi Jane' + antiwar protestors, see JKERRY

[belle]

82. It is, but they should really be using a vet, not Fonda. She is

of another era. And unfortunately she's become a bit of a joke, between the right-wing endless demonization of her and the later career (aerobics and so on), making her seem--I think, anyway--a bit of a lightweight. Oh, well.

[liberaliraqvet26]

6. it's doing just fine without her....

pls stay home jane

[Webster Green]

11. Disagree...

She admits she got carried away that day, and regrets it. Her mission was to seek peace!

She is brilliant, she is a great speaker, and she has been an anti war activist for quite awhile. Bring it on, Jane!

The spinners will have a handful with these two!

[Webster Green]

8. Its about 40 years too late to try to talk her out of it!

Fuck what the right-wing nut jobs think. We are all traitors as far as they are concerned.

[lebkuchen]

41. I agree with you

Go for broke. The RW nuts are.

[Just Me]

60. Yep. It's a mistake to appease the RW. It's time for us to drown out,...

,...the nationalistic, hate-mongering spewing from the RW machine. We are entitled to take a stand,...all of us are entitled to take a stand,...including Jane who has committed herself to activism her whole life.

GOOOO JANE!!! GOOOO GALLOWAY!!!

[ElectroPrincess]

77. We will lose MANY within the military and their families who AGREE

with our cause (anti-occupation).

Are you willing to do THAT just to piss off the Right Wingers. I am liberal but I wouldn't give Jane Fonda the time of day. If my brother died while she was over with the enemy in North Vietnam, I would never have forgiven her borderline treason.

No, the anti-war movement will LOSE BIG if they don't give Jane the heave ho.

[malaise]

29. I disagree

She's been consistent. Go Jane! Go George. The anti-war movement needs every serious person it can find.

[tabasco]

32. I wish she would just stay home and send money.

But it's a free country. Sort of.

[classysassy]

37. Truth speakers

The truth is the truth, it matters not who says it.

[bpilgrim]

46. we protest with the protesters who show up not the ones we WISHED had!

way too many marketing genius today :eyes:

peace

[Just Me]

61. *LOL*

:hug:

The RW PR sure seems unleashed with its messages of hatred and intentional actions towards oppressing the free speech of fellow Americans. There is no reason whatsoever that we all shouldn't proudly take a stand against a deceptive, corrupt, exploitation regime and a stand for peace rather than the profiteering racket of war!!

:hug:

[NuttyFluffers]

79. love you! mind if i repeat that? :D

:hug:

i want the people with fire in their belly who DO, not the timid who "need coaxing and goading" and still, in the end, DON'T.

[Roland99]

55. That was my first thought. Prepare to be Swift-Boated, Galloway.

[belle]

83. Except for, he's not running for president, so he can say what he likes.

[Just Me]

59. I disagree. Every controversial, "lightning rod" should be out there.

I'd rather this movement culminate & climax NOW than later, after we've suffered even greater losses under a regime that is a hundred times worse than the Nixon administration.

The more human lighting strikes, the better.

Let's get this pot brewin'!!!!

[TahitiNut]

2. .

:puke:

[TheDebbieDee]

4. George Galloway IS DA-MAN!

[rocktivity]

7. It's true--you SHOULD be careful what you

wish for, because you might get it.

:headbang:
rocknation

[rodeodance]

9. I am glad that Jane F. will join the cause. Welcome Jane. & Galloway

[TomInTib]

15. Dual Headliners....

take the speedbumps and go with the message.
This is a great package.

[chookie]

10. Fonda: more ego than brains

Yes yes yes -- she has strong convictions. But yes yes yes yes she is still "Hanoi Jane."

Galloway I would walk many miles to see and hear; Fonda -- none. Not that I find her stance offensive, but merely because I consider her irrelevant.

George Galloway -- say it ain't so!

[Webster Green]

12. She is not "Hanoi Jane" to me...

I don't buy into right wing bullshit.

And she is brilliant!

[planetc]

31. The right wing nutcases are infuriated by Cindy Sheehan ...

If they won't grant free speech to Mrs. Sheehan, Ms Fonda will give them apoplexy. They believe we could have won the Vietnam war if only the Democratic congress of 1973 hadn't cut off funding. They live in a totally delusive world, and we need to gather those who are still in contact with reality, and take back the country. We outnumber them, and the entire world will thank us, not to mention the United States armed forces.

Maybe Ms Fonda's visit to Hanoi was a tactical error, maybe not, but it's for sure the delusive right will never forgive her for it. We can do nothing for them except to politely remove the power of the US government from their hands. Mr. Galloway talks like an angry angel. Did you note that he will be debating Christopher Hitchens in NYC? Excellent.

[Eloriel]

42. I wish more DUers wouldn't buy into RW bullshit

You go, guy!! :thumbsup:

[Booster]

51. I totally agree. Jane Fonda made ONE big mistake during the

Viet Nam war, and I'll put her one mistake up against the many, many that Bush has made any day. Just because the right wing hates her is no reason for us to abandon Jane's to protest if she wants to. She will get more attention (both bad and good) than anyone else we could think of, but I stand behind her 100%. Thanks once again, Jane, for using your voice - just don't go to Iraq and have tea with the insurgents. ha I like Jane Fonda, I only wish Robert Redford would join her on that bus.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

63. She apologized, didn't she?

Of course, apologies are only good if they come from the right wing. "Did I say we should murder the President of Venezuela? Ooops sorry. Now let's forget about it."

[ElectroPrincess]

71. It's not just RW bullshit, she came close to committing treason ...

Many of us otherwise left of center Democrats DESPISE Jane Fonda, albeit we begrudgingly forgive her for her piss poor judgment.

She's not OUR (many Active Duty, Veterans and Retired Military) representative.

Galloway is making a serious error in judgment by joining forces with her. I am disgusted that she won't stay out of the lime light.

Damn! She'll screw the country all over again because many good people who lost sons in Vietnam will NOT ever forgive her.

She is the WORST possible representative because the scars of Vietnam are all too real.

Jane!?! Please stay in the background if you honestly wish to end the Iraqi Occupation. Otherwise WE (Democrats) will lose a large number of military and their families.

[NuttyFluffers]

80. compared to those in the gov't who actually did commit treason...?

uh-huh, sure, whatever. that's nice dear. see ya at the protests! :hug: :D

i'll take those who act than those who bicker or vacillate. anyday. thanks for asking! :D

[Fla4kerry]

65. I agree she may hurt

the George be accoutable moment, it is still very early in this process. The RW nut balls will link EVERYONE who wants this Administration accountable with Hanoi Jane, making it more polarized than what it already is. I really want to see Dems from Congress come out and stand with us. I am hoping they will show up in droves Sept 24th!!

[ElectroPrincess]

78. Somebody should brief Galloway, and soon!?! This is a mistake /eom

[tinrobot]

13. Jane has too much baggage

Not a good idea. I'm sure her heart is in the right place, but she's just way too polarizing.

Galloway would be much better doing this on his own.

[FredScuttle]

20. Baggage?

As I mention below, I don't remember Jane Fonda casting a vote to authorize Dim Son to initiate this fucking nonsense. That's some baggage to me.

[drfresh]

25. Yep. -nt

[Joe Chi Minh]

39. You mean she should be a uniter....?

Stretch across to shake their hands...? Inclusive? well... among the beautiful people? No indigents.

If they do polarize you, guess how disparate the proportions of the populations will be at the opposing poles?

[Eloriel]

44. Polarizing. Oh, please.

POLARIZING?

What kind of criticism is that? ANYone that talks against the war is "polarizing" according to the right wing. ANYone on the left who makes any sense, makes any headway, gets any press is "polarizing" to the right.

Please. Don't be so naive.

[Imagevision]

52. Jane too much baggage? - I totally agree - too little too late Jane!

she's at a point in her life like way back when, she was a bored little rich girl with nothing better to do, and now she has a failed movie (w/jennifer Lopez) and a failed Book.

Cindy's doing fine without distractions from Fonda protesting another war except this time she not doing from behind enemy lines.

But that's my opinion....heavy sigh!...!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Dover]

14. Hmmmmm.........do you suppose these two might fall for one another?

Don't know any details about their marital status, but this combo seems to be a pretty good match. Of course they will be lightening rods...but Jane Fonda is a very bright, articulate and matured woman with plenty to offer. The more voices the better imo.

[howmad1]

16. If not Jane and George, who then?

Be nice if a couple of democratic politicians went out on the hustings with a similar message. Anything to piss off conservatives and get the murkins behind the democratic party. Yea, dream on.

[DinahMoeHum]

40. I'd rather have Galloway, by himself, thanks.

He really doesn't need any embellishment or help.

[wli]

17. British MP's are batting for us more than our own Dems...

What in the flying fsck???

Come on, get up and do something? Why the Hell am I voting for you? Do I have to move to the UK to get adequate representation?

[anitar1]

21. Dems ? What dems? Are there really more than 2 or 3 dems

out there who are not afraid of speaking out? Probably worried about their campaign money.

[wli]

22. Sad but true. It's Conyers, McKinney, and maybe Boxer.

We have zero representation in the Fourth Reich.

[T_i_B]

54. Galloway is the MP for Bethnal Green & Bow

Believe me you would NOT want to live there. It's probably the biggest slum in the UK. Which makes me wonder why Galloway is going for US tours rather then spending more time trying to improve things in Bethnal Green. Bethnal Green needs a full time MP more then anywhere else in the UK.

[FredScuttle]

18. Oh no, not "Hanoi Jane"

We can't have her devote her time and efforts to opposing this war....after all, we have most Democratic politicians hitting the trail, denouncing the war and this idiot president...

(crickets)

I say good on you Jane...welcome back to the fight! Glad to have your voice.

[FredScuttle]

19. And let me add....

if I may steal/paraphrase from a post in a thread on Al Sharpton last night, Jane may carry some baggage, but she doesn't carry the baggage of voting for this fucking war and now remaining as silent as a quisling in a cage when that vote comes back to bite her in the ass.

Jane Fonda's "baggage"? Don't make me fucking laugh. The fantasy of Hannity/O'Falafel and the rest.

[Dinger]

23. Is There A Schedule?

I STILL love to watch his world, no universe-class smackdown of norm cole"man" on t.v. every now and then. Takes my breath away!

[darkism]

26. Schedule is here...

from www.mrgallowaygoestowashington.com

Boston, MA
Tuesday September 13, 7:00 pm
Faneuil Hall

New York, NY
Wednesday, September 14, 7:00 pm
Debate with Chrstopher Hitchens
Baruch College Performing Arts Center

Madison, WI
Sunday, September 18, 7:00 pm
Wisconsin Union Theatre, University of Wisconsin

Chicago, IL
Monday, September 19, 7:00 pm
Thorne Auditorium at Northwestern Law School

Seattle, WA
Tuesday, September 20, 7:00 pm
Kane Hall, University of Washington

San Francisco, CA
Wednesday, September 21, 7:00 pm
Mission High School

Los Angeles, CA
Thursday, September 22, 7:00 pm
Immanuel Presbyterian Church

Washington, D.C .
Saturday, September 24, 7:00 pm
George Washington University

[rocktivity]

34. Then he WILL be in Washington DC the weekend of the 24th!

:woohoo:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE somebody get him to speak at the rally! And of course, start e-mailing [e-mail] telling them to cover it on their main channel!

:bounce:
rocknation

[ngGale]

24. Fonda and Galloway are indeed...

two polarizing people. Who cares what the right thinks, I see headlines and media attention. I'm sure both can handle all the smack-downs coming at 'em. We have to go with the hand we are dealt, and I see no Dems on the front lines. :popcorn:

[Eloriel]

45. There ya go. THAT's the attitude

BRING IT ON!!!!!

You're goldurn right these two can handle the attacks. WooHoo!

[ElectroPrincess]

75. I'm NOT part of the right but you disrespect Vietnam Veterans IF

The resentments are always present and they are very strong, real and raw - thirty ++ years later! And these sentiments are NOT all from Right Wingers. She committed treason. She is not worthy to represent our anti-war movement.

Wake up people? Put yourself in the Vets' shoes (especially POWs)?

[Voltaire99]

27. First stop: they should occupy Hillary Clinton's office.

And demand Clinton stop supporting the war.

Progressives need to put it very clearly to Democratic office holders: stop the war if you want our votes.

[saigon68]

28. Hillary Clinton needs to bust out on this topic

Supporting the WAR Hmmm.

Sound like Hubert Humphrey to me.

Remember him-- he was a big WAR HAWK who only changed sides after McCarthy started to kick ass.

Then Humpty Dumpty lost to tricky dick

LOL

[leetrisck]

53. No, they should occupy Republican

offices. Democrats could speak out until hell froze over and they don't control a damned thing. Why Hillary? Why not anybody? The Hillary bashing is getting a little old also. Hillary is a senator from NY and they seem to love her and she sure as hell stands up for the troops from her state. PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS. Clinton nor Hillary started this war. BUSH did and it wouldn't have happened without Bush

[Zhade]

67. I'm guessing targeting Dems because they HAVE to listen to us.

Sorta.

They can be warned that they can be replaced in the primaries - and anyone who endorses this illegal war SHOULD be so warned.

Dems don't get a pass on continuing to enable this war crime just because of the initial after their name. Not now, not ever.

[Zhade]

66. I am very much in favor of this idea...

...but to be fair, you have to include people like Biden, Lieberman, and all the other pro-illegal-war Dem chickenhawks. Feinstein, for example, actually profits off this brutality through her husband's weapons contractor stock holdings.

But by all means, please DO target Clinton. Her support for this massive war crime is odious - just as her support for the Contras remains a black mark.

[fasttense]

30. If it pisses of the right, then there has to be something good about it.

[koopie57]

33. I've read negative threads against

Al Sharpton and now Jane Fonda. So much of the negative is cuz of decisions they made over 20 years ago. Maybe decisions they made then were wrong, maybe not, but in the most recent times they have both proven to me that they are responsible, intelligent people who thankfully don't back down to criticism from either side of the aisle.

One thing I admire about both of them is that no matter what they say, I know it is what they believe and how they feel. It is comforting to know they will not lie to me. I might not agree with them, but that is okay. And I don't think Al Sharpton went to Crawford for the publicity, I think he went to show support and the by product will be publicity. I don't like to think that people who support Cindy keep their mouths shut cuz they might get some press or 20 years ago they did something stupid. If we didn't have the Michael Moore's, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Jane Fonda, Cindy Sheehan; people who shake things up or look at the world differently,all we would be left with are those who have not had the balls to speak out! IMHO.

[PunkPop]

35. Oh man,. The last 'Jane Fonda speaks out against the Iraq War' thread

got close to 300 posts if I remember right.

Let's see if we can beat that people!!

Go, Go, Go

[Chicago1]

36. Galloway and REVOLUTION

I hope the Revolution start while he's here. If not, I hope he can come back and be a speaker when it gets going. I'm VERY VERY EXCITED about his trip to the US.


Go Mr. Galloway!!!!!!

[Darkhawk32]

38. Somebody get that man a ticket to Crawford! n/t

[Ripley]

43. What the hell is wrong with some of you Fonda bashers?????

Oh, she should stay home. So many people think badly of her.

Have you ever heard one fucking Republican say that Rush Limbaugh should get off the air after he said or did something like, oh I don't know...OVERTLY RACIST as an ESPN analyst? or admitted to be a hillbilly heroin junkie?

How about the oh so embarrassing actions by Oliver North? On and on the list goes.

It's called freedom of speech and it applies to Jane just like it applies to Cindy. Get off your timid trip of tiptoeing around the people who hate all anti-war people in the first place!

[VegasWolf]

47. My thoughts exactly!!!! Well said! nt

[Senator Lamb]

48. good idea Jane

if you undermine the peace movement.

[VegasWolf]

49. and draws more attention to it!!! Why, are you under the impression

that this peace movement will be any less painful than the Vietnam
movement. The heated rhetoric of the last few months show that this
new movement will leave equal scars on the national psyche!

[Eloriel]

56. You're right, but

unfortunate framing. Was it the PEACE movement that caused the pain, or the war itself?

[VegasWolf]

57. Actually, I think both. We all realized that the country was divided

in a major way politically and that the homogeneous Ed Sullivan
TV audience was just an American myth.

[ElectroPrincess]

73. Yes, the world is unfair ...

In a perfect world we would see Oliver North for the traitor that he is and he'd be serving a life sentence in prison.

However, Jane Fonda going to North Vietnam was borderline treasonous. What part of "treason" don't you understand?

She was in her THIRTIES when she pulled this stunt. No, she shames our country and Galloway has turned out to be a fool if he doesn't realize how this alienates the military, i.e., the will drop out of sight in the Anti-occupation movement.

The Military still considers Jane Fonda a Traitor. No, not fair but very true and very real sentiments today. Especially from those families who sacrificed a son to the Vietnam War.

The above is real world sentiments.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

50. I am sooo there!

Mission High School here I come! I welcome them both to the current movement and am glad they are lending their voices to the fight.

Galloway and Fonda -- now that's what I like! :)

[nolabels]

58. Mr Galloway says it's an "illegal war and occupation"

If you ask me I would say it's worse. Isn't it about time for the government of the people to start work towards the desires of the 60%+ of the population and withdraw from the conflict in Iraq

[Chicago1]

62. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Galloway for the way he speaks his mind

That man is WONDERFUL. He tells it just like it is. He wiped the floor up with Coleman when he came and visited.

[Bo]

68. OH NO NOT HANOI JANE AGAIN

[Zhade]

69. OH NO NOT RIGHTWING TALKING POINTS AGAIN

:eyes:

It's one thing not to like her, quite another to borrow rightwing terms to describe her.

[ElectroPrincess]

72. Its not lies or Right Wing talking points to NOTE that she DID

consorted with OUR ENEMY - Directly! Many men in POW camps suffered as a result of her visit.

I believe that her intentions were good back then, but remember, the road to HELL is paved with good intentions.

My brother, former Vietnam War combat soldier (101st Airborne) seethes resentments at the mere mention of her name.

Jane fonda is an albatross in ANY other role save for financial (quietly supporting BEHIND the scenes).

I wish she would WTFU?

[NuttyFluffers]

81. consort vs. directly sell us out... hmm....

admin sold out our military for mercenaries and oil profit leading directly to the deaths of our troops. their acts directly weakened the safety of our entire country, economically, politically, diplomatically, socially, etc.

and yet jane fonda is working against this evil. she is using action. i have no pretentions of wanting only saints working with us, i expect only humans -- in all their flaws -- to work against a greater evil. can't deal with it? then continue to act, but not in the same room as fonda. otherwise i'm in no way worried about "image." we're not right-wingers, we're not hypocritical about our flaws. in fact it encourages acceptance because it reminds us we are all human.

so... if you really feel you need to cast the first stone... i and others will be busy fighting the greater evil. love ya! :hug:

[ElectroPrincess]

85. If you genuinely believe that you are not behaving in a

hypocritical manner, then you must entertain the possibility that you will lose a large number of active duty military, veterans, and retired military. For some reason Jane Fonda is universally despised within these circles.

Therefore, if you wish to IGNORE a large portion of those of us who are, basically on your side, keep on disrespecting people who have lost friends over in Vietnam at the same time ole' Jane Fonda was chatting it up with the enemy.

Galloway is a fool and/or is not "in touch" with the intense divisions within this Country over the Vietnam War ... many of those "scars of war" can never be healed.

I can't claim to "love ya" back - as you have stated for me in a past post, but I do respect your honest opinion.

[beetbox]

84. Go George-Go Jane If you have sensitive ears that don't want to hear

the truth stated in stark terms then tune in for the Newspin version of it.

Make it real- Make it raw.
Enough political mealy mouthing about this criminal and murderous regime!

People want to hear it STRAIGHT!
And here it comes!