Fearing U.S. attack, Venezuela boosts its reserve forces

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/stories/DN-venezuela_27int.ART.State.Edition2.231256bb.html

100,000 have enlisted; Washington calls talk of invasion unfounded


12:00 AM CDT on Saturday, August 27, 2005


By JENS ERIK GOULD / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News


LOS TEQUES, Venezuela – Marialena Morón always wanted to be a soldier. A 44-year old mother of six, she spends her Saturday mornings learning how to salute in the hot sun. Beside her are 250 men and women –18-year-olds next to senior citizens – lined up in formation on an overgrown soccer field south of Caracas.

For Ms. Morón, a street vendor, the chance to join the military reserves was a chance to make progress for women's rights.

But many of her mates had a more weighty objective: They expected to be ready within six months to deter any U.S. assault.

Military preparations

"We are preparing for the invasion," said Lt. Octavio Serrano, who commands Ms. Morón's reserves unit. The Americans "could come internally with the CIA...or it could be directly and militarily like they invaded Iraq."

Mr. Chávez says he fears that the U.S. covets Venezuela's oil reserves – the hemisphere's largest – at a time when global supplies are dwindling.

[Skittles]

1. I don't know what the evil intentions of bush inc are

but I certainly do not blame the reactions of these people - not at all

[NNN0LHI]

2. I know what Boosh would do if Venezuela cut the US off from oil

He would invade. There is no doubt about that. Venezuela is Americas single largest oil supplier.

Don

[CHIMO]

19. Surprise

The image shows imports for the year 2003 for crude and products.



http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html

[ConcernedCanuk]

31. WOW - 30% from Canada and Mexico - - Over 40% adding Venezuela

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I think Canada, Mexico and Venezuela should form their own little oil cartel

THERE'S an AXIS of EVIL for ya George !!!!!!

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On EDIT:

oh yeah,

furgot one small detail

We'll all nationalize our petroleum industries

:evilgrin:

[beetbox]

26. Venezuela Among top 4 suppliers

But the numbers don't really matter for if any of the top suppliers cut off to US the US economy would go into an immediate apoplectic seizure and we would see without a doubt riots in the streets. Would they invade Venezuela if such a scenario unfolded? As you said...

Oilaholics


June 2005 Import Highlights: Released on August 16, 2005
Preliminary monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in June 2005 has been released and it shows that three countries have exported more than 1.5 million barrels per day or more to the United States. A total of four countries exported over 1.0 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top sources of US crude oil imports for June were Canada (1.696 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.616 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.564 million barrels per day), Venezuela (1.292 million barrels per day), and Nigeria (.896 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (.608 million barrels per day), Angola (.397 million barrels per day), Algeria (.292 million barrels per day), Ecuador (.288 million barrels per day), and United Kingdom (.269 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 10.564 million barrels per day in June, which is an increase of .398 million barrels per day from May. The top five exporting countries accounted for 67 percent of United States crude oil imports in June and the top ten sources accounted for approximately 84 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

[hiley]

29. He sure would.

Nominated.

[FourStarDemocrat]

32. 14% percent of our oil from what I've read..

We may receive more from the mideast-Saudi Arabia through the various middlemen, I don't know. It's a sad state of affairs though when after decades of a good relationship between both countries it's disintegrated to such an extent.

[wake.up.america]

3. Los gringos van a tener muchos problemas en el futuro con el pais de...

de Venezuela.

[Massacure]

4. Gringos? I don't recognize that word...

What does it mean?

[mcscajun]

5. White folk...plain and simple...but it didn't start that way.

from Wikipedia:

Original meaning: Etymologically, gringo comes from griego ("Greek"), since Greek was the proverbial example of not understandable language ("It's all Greek to me!"). It was applied to speakers of foreign languages, especially the English language, by the eighteenth century. It was later extended to white-skinned people even if Spanish-speaking, and can sometimes even mean just blond.

[Massacure]

7. So its basically slang then?

[K-W]

10. Yep, meaning foriegner, outsider, usually white people. EOM

[manic expression]

23. Yes, but it's not a negative thing

It's the equivalent of "Latino".

[manic expression]

22. Solomente si nuestra presidente tonto va tratar ese...

Creo que Venezuela es muy listo por un invasion. Especialmente por que la gente de Venezuela apoya Chavez.

(Y tambien, Viva Chavez, Viva Venezuela!)

Espero puedes entendar mi (mal) espanol.

[wake.up.america]

33. Ningun problema. Hemos entendido todo.

Ojala que te vaya bien.

Hasta pronto.

[ConcernedCanuk]

6. "like they invaded Iraq." - there's what the World saw, y'all . .

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and I'm not the only one who remembers G.W. Bush saying on national, no . .

INTERNATIONAL televsion

" well, I'm a WAR President "

along with that infamous smirk of his.


Well that's about the most singular honest statement that ever came out of GeeDubya's mouth

not a President for Peace

He's a WAR President

so

Why don't they rename the Department of Defense back to it's previous name

The Department of War

cuz they sure aren't defending anyone . .

Think I'll look around the house for some dual-use stuff

lessee - javex - doggie doo -

hmmm

little bit more and I'll have me sum of dem WMD's EyeRak had

might as well,

we gotta be in one of dem axis of evul things sumwhere . . .

It's just automatic if you got dat petroleum stuff under ur soil -

right?

(sigh)

[Lori Price CLG]

8. Can we join? LOL!! n/t

[Chrisduhfur]

9. *evil grin*

Should have invaded Venezuela instead of Iraq. Would have been easier and cheaper... ;)

[K-W]

11. But not anymore.

An armed and trained peasentry makes occupation nearly impossible.

[manic expression]

24. You cannot be serious...

Are you aware of how much the lower classes support Chavez? It would be MUCH harder and MUCH worse if we invaded Venezuela.

Sorry for being blunt, but I don't think you have any idea of what you're talking about.

And why, exactly, do you greet such a conclusion with happiness? Do you like the idea of invading sovereign countries for no reason, and subsequently murdering a large number of innocents and causing massive damage?

[NEOBuckeye]

12. For Venezuela's sake, let's hope the world community intervenes

On their behalf, not ours. A U.S. move to invade may be all the reason China needs to call our debts due. Game Over, Bush.

This madness won't end until the Bush Klan are all standing trial at The Hague. Or hanging upside down like Mussolini. Either way, I don't care at this point. I'm tired of these bastards destroying people's lives for their own greed. It's time they answer for their murderous crimes against humanity and the planet itself.

[wli]

13. they're warmongers; they'll just bring it home if they can't do it abroad

Doubtless some false flag "terror attack" will serve as a pretext for martial law and kicking REX 84 death camps for liberals into full gear.

[SlowDownFast]

20. I thought I knew alot. Until I googled Rex 84.

They got it all ready. And it ain't no tin-foil.

I'd be worried about it, except there will be full fledged civil war here (including veterans of all types who hate fascists) before that ever happens.

They'd have to cut all communications to keep people from knowing the truth.

But fortunately, it's too late for that, I think.

What they'd hope would be 'robots' by now, aint.

Long live true Freedom!

[cliss]

14. I'm just curious -

how much effort would it be to invade Venezuela? If the Pentagon is sitting in a board room discussing this right now, what are we talking about here?

Maybe send in a squad of hit-men like Pat Liarson said this week. Would it be very difficult? Would they succeed this time? They've already tried that, several times.

Or should we pull out the heavy artillery and send in an armada? Maybe there are a few idle destroyers in the Atlantic we could move over there.

What about troops? Can we spare a few thousand? Or maybe that's not enough. Maybe we'll need 100,000 to subdue the country. I'm concerned about the cost now. We're already spending $1 billion per week in Iraq. We're technically bankrupt.

These are all important things to think about.

I hope they give it some thought, and not do something drastic.

Stupid fools.

[kbm8795]

15. Thanks a lot, Pat. . .

and yet ABC Family continues to broadcast the 700 Club.

[Orsino]

16. They have nothing to fear...

We'd only attack if they had oil, right?

But with what Army, I wonder?

[IndianaGreen]

17. Nothing like a people's militia to give pause to the Pentagon planners!

One-two-three-four, many more Iraqs!

Guevara: `Create Two, Three, Many Vietnams'

BY ERNESTO CHE GUEVARA

We must carry the war as far as the enemy carries it; into his home, into his places of recreation, make it total. He must be prevented from having a moment's peace, a moment's quiet outside the barracks and even inside them. Attack him wherever he may be; make him feel like a hunted animal wherever he goes. Then his morale will begin to decline. He will become even more bestial; but signs of the coming decline will appear.

And let us develop genuine proletarian internationalism, with international proletarian armies. Let the flag under which we fight be the sacred cause of the liberation of humanity, so that to die under the colors of Vietnam, Venezuela, Guatemala, Laos, Guinea, Colombia, Bolivia, Brazil - to mention only the current scenes of armed struggle - will be equally glorious and desirable for a Latin American, an Asian, an African and even a European.

Every drop of blood spilled in a land under whose flag one was not born is an experience gathered by the survivor to be applied later in the struggle of one's own country. And every people that liberates itself is a step in the battle for the liberation of one's own people....

We cannot evade the call of the hour. Vietnam teaches us this with its permanent lesson in heroism, its tragic daily lesson of struggle and death in order to gain the final victory.

Over there, the soldiers of imperialism encounter the discomforts of those who, accustomed to the standard of living that the United States boasts, have to confront a hostile land; the insecurity of those who cannot move without feeling that they are stepping on enemy territory; death for those who go outside of fortified compounds; the permanent hostility of the entire population. All this is provoking repercussions inside the United States. It is leading to the appearance of a factor that was attenuated by imperialism at full strength: the class struggle inside its own territory.

http://www.themilitant.com/1996/6036/6036_33.html

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[Joey Liberal]

18. Venezuala would be much tougher than Iraq

If Bush were to invade Venezuala (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he does invade them), it would spell the end of this country. All of Latin America would turn against us. We've lost the respect of Latin America since Bush stole the last two elections.

[Name removed]

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[Imagevision]

25. Cheney probably had contingency plans to invade Venezuela

US. super power lost credibility with this war president!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[beetbox]

27. nominated

1. Insist on complete transparancy of the world's oil reserves and production on a well by well basis.
2. Make national energy independence a national economic and security goal
3. Create an energy efficiency ethic in society that abhors wasteful behaviors
4. Raise fuel economy standards for passenger cars and trucks - encourage adoption of hybrids, electric plug-ins and other more sustainable automobile designs
5. Re-institute the 55 mph speed limit for maximum efficiency
6. Decrease traffic through better design, congestion pricing, more telecommuting, staggered start hours, off-peak commuting incentives carpooling, etc.
7. Invest in building and maintaining mass transit systems to connect as many communities as possible.
8. Invest in the national passenger and freight rail infrastructure
9. Revise building codes for maxiumum energy efficiency
10. Encourage walking, biking, line skating and all forms of self propelled transportation through clearly marked lanes and public awareness campaigns.
11. Encourage local food production, urban green gardens, farmer markets.
12. Generate as much local power as possible from solar, wind, biomass, hydro/tidal and other sustainable forms of energy

[Alex146]

28. After the Iraq debacle and the call of the right wing

for a US sponsered assassination, who can blame them?

[MadisonProgressive]

30. I don't blame them!