ACLU: FBI labeled peace, affirmative action group 'terrorist'

[rawstory]

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/ACLU_reveals_FBI_labeled_peace_affirmative_action_group_terrori_0829.html

The American Civil Liberties Union today released an FBI document that designates a Michigan-based peace group and an affirmative action advocacy group as potentially "involved in terrorist activities," RAW STORY has learned. The ACLU release follows.

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The file was obtained through an ongoing nationwide ACLU effort seeking information on the FBI's use of Joint Terrorism Task Forces to engage in political surveillance.

"This document confirms our fears that federal and state counterterrorism officers have turned their attention to groups and individuals engaged in peaceful protest activities," said Ben Wizner, an ACLU staff attorney and counsel in a lawsuit seeking the release of additional FBI records. "When the FBI and local law enforcement identify affirmative action advocates as potential terrorists, every American has cause for concern."

The document released today is an FBI report labeled, "Domestic Terrorism Symposium," and describes a meeting that was intended to "keep the local, state and federal law enforcement agencies apprised of the activities of the various groups and individuals within the state of Michigan who are thought to be involved in terrorist activities."

ACLU spy files: http://www.aclu.org/spyfiles

ACLU document referenced: http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=18961&c=282

[indepat]

1. Jesus, big brother is watching and can and will label anyone they wish:

it's enough to make one wonder what four more year, four more year, will bring. Absolute power absolutely corrupts absolutely.

[marmar]

2. This just burns me....

Doesn't seem like they're too interested in catching actual terrorists, just war protestors and justice advocates. BushAmerica....

[nashville_brook]

3. everybody needs to see this -- big nom

what can i say...this has been brewing for a long time.

[klyon]

10. This is a repeat of the 70's, surveillance of anti war protesters

When the government needs cover, it attacks. Again it is attacking people who want peace. Ironic...............

KL

[Voltaire99]

15. And a reason why Democrats were stupid to buy into the War on Terror meme.

Wars on terror--in a world that has very few actual terrorists--are always destined to become wars on our own peaceful citizens. American history is a long trail of such self-devouring madness, from the early Red Scare through the Cold War up to the present.

Next time a Democratic candidate gets up in front of you and recites Bush rhetoric about defeating "terror," jeer. That idiot needs to be set straight.

[K-W]

17. You can take it all the way back to Adams.

Whether it was the british, the french, the spanish, the huns, the communists, or the terrorists. There always must be a vague threat poised to destroy the US so that dissent cannot be afforded.

The history of US governance is a history of finding reasons to ignore the constitution.

[fooj]

4. What a bunch of garbage...

Kick and nominate!

Peace.:patriot:

[troubleinwinter]

5. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Kicked & nominated! Gads....

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

6. Another reason to

join the ACLU. I was always supportive of the organization but never thought much about it until * got elected and 9/11 happened. The Patriot Act pushed me over the edge. I am now a card carrying member and encourage all of you to do the same! :)

[hiley]

7. See if they are watching you

Find out if you could be in the FBI's files!

The ACLU has evidence that the FBI and local police, working together through so-called Joint Terrorism Task Forces, are gathering information and collecting files on environmental, anti-war, political, and faith-based groups and centers of worship.

Could you be a target, too? Answer these 6 quick questions to find out!
Take The Quiz
http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?quizID=12

Of course, if the F.B.I. labels you are terrorist you will know when they kick in your door.

[EVDebs]

47. Total Info Awareness is now offshore in Bahamas

With Ben H. Bell's company Global Information Group, Ltd.

'Bahamas Firm Screens Personal Data To Assess Risk
Operation Avoids U.S. Privacy Rules'

by Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 16, 2004; Page A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36853-2004Oct15.html

So, along with teachers, librarians, and anyone foolish enough to buy an almanac, we are joined by peace groups and affirmative action supporters ? On the bright side EVERYONE is a suspect now...

The question becomes: can they arrest everybody ?

[Lindsay]

8. Kicked and nominated.

I've been hearing this stuff before. But gods and goddesses bless the ACLU for making a public stink about it.

[Just Me]

9. So, anyone who seeks to be something more than being a greedy MO FO,...

,...who advocates a democracy that includes social and economic justice, civil and human rights,...can be degraded as a "terrorist".

BULLSHIT!!!! :grr:

[leftchick]

11. Have they labeled the "Children of God" aka: The Family terrorists yet?

All of the time money and energy spent pursuing PEACEFUL groups is unbelievable! The Justice Department should be going after pedophile groups that exist in the USA. The Family is the worst.

They leave real terrorists against our children like this alone. It is so horrible...

<snip>

Those familiar with the Children of God know that Rodriguez had one of the most infamous upbringings in the sect, which in its early years encouraged sex between minors and between minors and adults.

Critics of the cult have long pointed to a booklet published by the Children of God titled the "Story of Davidito,'' which describes in glowing terms how Rodriquez was sexually abused as a toddler by his nanny, Sara.

"He was the prince,'' said Daniel Roselle, 29, a Los Angeles man who was also raised in the Children of God. "He was put on a pedestal as the future leader of the Family.''

Roselle, who says he was sexually abused by sect members when he was 7 years old, left the group in 1995, about five years before Rodriguez defected in 2000.

"I knew Ricky (Rodriguez) well, and talked to him about four months ago, '' Roselle said. "He had a lot of rage.'' The two lived at a Children of God commune in Japan in the late 1980s.


http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f/f38ae.html

AND they get tax exempt status to molest kids...

http://www.exfamily.org/cgi-bin/gf.pl?fmt=dyn&t=history&m=2&s=&r=hist/fcf_and_the_family_cog.shtml

Exploring the Connections documents how Family Care Foundation (FCF), a California public benefit corporation, is an illegal front organization for The Family, an unregistered high-demand, secretive, apocalyptic religious group with a long history of promoting the sexual abuse of minors and practicing religious prostitution. FCF has deliberately concealed its close working relationship with The Family from the IRS, other regulatory agencies, and the public. Formed in 1997, FCF is controlled by an all-Family Board of Directors and was initially funded by The Family. The FCF president and executive director have secretly collaborated closely with top Family leadership on a number of projects. These include using FCF funds to finance Family ventures, collecting Family tithes, paying Family apologists, and according Family members preferential treatment.

Exploring the Connections also provides information about other Family front organizations, explaining how they are interlinked. Suggestions for further research are offered, including several websites, as well as contact information of the various organizations mentioned in the report.



Introduction

This document explores the relationship between the high-demand apocalyptic religious group known as The Family (formerly the Children of God) and Family Care Foundation (FCF), a public benefit corporation based in Dulzura, California (EIN 33-0734917). It is assumed that the reader already has a knowledge of The Family – their history, beliefs, and practices.


I read a great article in Rollingstone about Ricky and this group a couple of moths ago. The US Dept. of Justice leaves them alone!!

:grr:

[hiley]

13. The Family is probably

the worst like you said.
Bet the F.B.I. could careless though.

[Mnemosyne]

16. This bunch was in my small town at one point

during the 70's, maybe 1973. It was only 3 guys, young and beautiful. A 14 yr. old girl ended up leaving with them. I believe it was years before her folks saw her again. They shoplifted like crazy, claimed it was alright because "it was corps.", not people. They sent me "Mo" letters for awhile, just wasn't pulled in due to their hypocrisy.

These are the creeps that Poppy and Babs had bring their children's "choir" to sing at the WH.

[leftchick]

19. are you serious about poopy and babs doing that?

:wow:

That would explain the lack of investigation. Can't taint a bushco** lover.

Here is a link to the recovery group for these poor people.

http://www.exfamily.org/index.html

[Mnemosyne]

39. There is an actual newspaper photo, but

can't find the link. He is evil personified to condon and to welcome people that harm children is beyond disgusting.
:grr: :grr:

[Judi Lynn]

42. Now that's epic! Never heard this at the time. Thanks for the info.

Frieds of _Bush. Figures.

[Mnemosyne]

44. Very welcome n/t

[Trillo]

12. Has Pat Roberson been labeled "terrorist" by FBI? nt

[bejammin075]

14. Yeah, where are the Pat Robertson FBI files?

"Take him oot"

[sniffa]

18. surprised?

:puke:

[EC]

20. Well, I wonder how many license plates numbers

they've taken at Crawford? Remember all the helicopters swooping down by their cars?

[endarkenment]

21. So just out of curiousity, and don't get me wrong,

I give the ACLU money every year, but is ok with the ACLU to label muslim charities terrorist groups?

[newswolf56]

22. This proves two points:

(1)-The extent to which the Bush Administration has deliberately and maliciously manipulated 9/11 into an American Reichstag Fire, this to provide justification for elevation of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other federal investigative agencies into a defacto secret police force under the aegis of Homeland Security.

(2)-The extent to which the real Bush Administration purpose behind the Patriot Act is NOT the protection of the nation against terrorists but rather the creation of a gestapo climate of fear and the suppression of dissent.

No matter what the ACLU does to defend us, the Bush Administration's methodical violations of Constitutional liberties are frightening many to silence. And as one who lived through the oppressions of the Vietnam Era, I testify emphatically today's computer-assisted tyranny is already far worse than anything unleashed on the public by LBJ or Nixon.

[wli]

25. they're not called the "Homeland Offense Gestapo" for nothing

Count me as quaking in fear of the knock on the door at 3AM.

[wli]

23. COINTELPRO in full effect n/t

[NJmaverick]

24. has that assh*le bush got DU labeled as terrorists

Thank God we have the ACLU to protect us and the American public, from those facist pigs.

[BlueJac]

26. I call Bullshit

:crazy:

[puerco-bellies]

27. Kick, and a nomination

Bastards

[flvegan]

28. Hold on...I can't stop laughing...

The East Lansing Animal Rights Movement may have ties to the ALF/ELF, based on this document, because of a picture taken from the front of a t-shirt (the "human liberation/animal liberation" picture)? Someone needs to revoke their internet(s) rights.

Okay, if that's the case, someone call everyone that's ever bought that t-shirt. I think PETA offers it on their site. They're all domestic terrists now. Oh, and someone PLEASE go call Adrock from the Beastie Boys, since he wore that very shirt to the VMA's as a presenter one year.

Hey, Homeland Security, there was this alien named ALF, but he went by the name Gordon Chumway...had his own tv show for a while. You should check that out, too.

heh heh heh heh...

[Nothing Without Hope]

29. This was a major purpose for the Patriot Act - suppression of dissent

by compromising privacy and then destroying civil liberties.

This is very important. Recommended.

Raw Story does it again!!! Thank you!

:yourock:

[G_j]

30. kick

[Usrename]

31. FBI? I thought that was FEMA's jurisdiction. Not kidding. Read

"Bonfire of the Constitution" and you'll know I'm not kidding.

[rodeodance]

32. kisck

[existentialist]

33. And, any bets

but what they have started file on most of us here?

(Or am I just paranoid?)

[bonito]

34. It's part of the airport screening also "S"

Outspoken sen. Ted Kennedy was chosen as a selectee also. Information compilled by the MATRIX program among others. heres the aclu link for more info.http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=14257&c=130 Peace.

[Nothing Without Hope]

35. Another thread has been started on this story in the GD forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500788
Thread title: ACLU discovers FBI is labeling peace activists as 'potential terrorists'

[sans-culotte]

36. Doesn't surprise me one bit.

So what else is new.
What the hell is going on?

Everything that has happened to our country ever since after they announced Fla to Gore has been wrong wrong wrong. This must be the twilight zone.

WTF!!!

[struggle4progress]

37. Read Ward Churchill's book on COINTELPRO.

These shitheads have been at this same vicious crap since forever ...

[OldLeftieLawyer]

41. Excellent book

I helped represent David Rice in a beautiful example of what COINTELPRO did 'way back when.

David's still in prison for a crime he didn't commit.

[KittyWampus]

38. wonder if gay rights activists are next.

[LibertyorDeath]

40. Hunger for Dictatorship

From the The American Conservative

by Scott McConnell

Students of history inevitably think in terms of periods: the New Deal, McCarthyism, “the Sixties” (1964-1973), the NEP, the purge trials—all have their dates. Weimar, whose cultural excesses made effective propaganda for the Nazis, now seems like the antechamber to Nazism, though surely no Weimar figures perceived their time that way as they were living it. We may pretend to know what lies ahead, feigning certainty to score polemical points, but we never do.

Nonetheless, there are foreshadowings well worth noting. The last weeks of 2004 saw several explicit warnings from the antiwar Right about the coming of an American fascism. Paul Craig Roberts in these pages wrote of the “brownshirting” of American conservatism—a word that might not have surprised had it come from Michael Moore or Michael Lerner. But from a Hoover Institution senior fellow, former assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, and one-time Wall Street Journal editor, it was striking.

Several weeks later, Justin Raimondo, editor of the popular Antiwar.com website, wrote a column headlined, “Today’s Conservatives are Fascists.” Pointing to the justification of torture by conservative legal theorists, widespread support for a militaristic foreign policy, and a retrospective backing of Japanese internment during World War II, Raimondo raised the prospect of “fascism with a democratic face.” His fellow libertarian, Mises Institute president Lew Rockwell, wrote a year-end piece called “The Reality of Red State Fascism,” which claimed that “the most significant socio-political shift in our time has gone almost completely unremarked, and even unnoticed. It is the dramatic shift of the red-state bourgeoisie from leave-us-alone libertarianism, manifested in the Congressional elections of 1994, to almost totalitarian statist nationalism. Whereas the conservative middle class once cheered the circumscribing of the federal government, it now celebrates power and adores the central state, particularly its military wing.”

Snip

And yet the very fact that the f-word can be seriously raised in an American context is evidence enough that we have moved into a new period. The invasion of Iraq has put the possibility of the end to American democracy on the table and has empowered groups on the Right that would acquiesce to and in some cases welcome the suppression of core American freedoms. That would be the titanic irony of course, the mother of them all—that a war initiated under the pretense of spreading democracy would lead to its destruction in one of its very birthplaces. But as historians know, history is full of ironies.

More

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_02_14/article.html

[genieroze]

43. Love this part

"Our clients comprise advocates for causes including the environment, animal rights, labor, religion, Native American rights, fair trade, grassroots politics, peace, social justice, nuclear disarmament, human rights and civil liberties."


Imagine people fighting for those things, THOSE MONSTERS!!! /sarcasm

" When the FBI invades the privacy of political and religious groups in the name of fighting terrorism, it abuses our trust and freedom."

Do ya think?

[dbeach]

45. bush declared war on the middle class on 11/00

and on all freedom loving people on 9/11 and again on 11/02/04..the 1984 police state has long been sought by the roylty of europe and dictators..Bush is american royalty who has at his core agenda the police state to protect the privlege and wealth of the uber elites from the commoners..

the red,white and blue blooded scion of privlege and power wrapping himself in the flag of freeedom that he detests and NEVER served.

coward,traitor, chikenhawk ,flag abuser and his destiny seems to be to ignite a WW III scanario.. including a martial law in the USA and a microchipped controlled or disappeared citizenry..

Ronie raygun and trick dicky nixon are saints compared to the bush criminals.

[paineinthearse]

46. Larisa Alexandrovna: "detainee abuse under our misguided "noble cause.""

Raw Story's Larisa Alexandrovna blogged in HuffPo about today's torture hearing in NYC. Posted in the wee hours, it has garnered few reads.

"...Today, August 30 - the court will allow the "People" to hear the government's case on why the rape of children, for example - under Project Copper Green - is conducive to winning the war on terror. Perhaps the argument will not be made in those explicit, honest terms, but the substance of the crimes discussed and our need to know about them will be evident even if buried under mounds of legal verbiage..."

more at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4504791&mesg_id=4504791