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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:39 PM
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ABC - Poll: Bush Approval at a Career Low
ABC News/Washington Post Poll Finds Iraq Ratings Negative, but Stable

Aug. 30, 2005 — George W. Bush's job approval rating slipped to a career low 45 percent in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, damaged both by discontent with the war in Iraq and broad unhappiness with the price of gasoline at home.

Views on Iraq, while stable, are not good: Fifty-three percent of Americans say the war was not worth fighting, 57 percent disapprove of the way Bush is handling it and 68 percent call the level of U.S. casualties unacceptable. The public only divides, 49-49 percent, on whether the war has improved long-term U.S. security, its basic rationale.

At home, opinions on gasoline prices are even more dire. Just 22 percent approve of Bush's work on the problem, while a whopping 73 percent disapprove. Two-thirds say gas prices are causing them financial hardship — back up after a dip last week — and six in 10 think the Bush administration could take measures to cut the price of gas.

That view seems to run contrary to Bush's comment Monday: "I wish I could snap my fingers and lower the price of gasoline for you. The markets don't work that way. I'd be snappin' if I could do it."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PollVault/story?id=1080163&page=1
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:41 PM
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1. "I'd be snappin'"
He makes me so sick. Act Presidential for a change you loser.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:09 PM
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16. That's not what he said during the "debates"
I wonder when the chimp-supporters will remember that he promised during the election to keep oil prices low?

"Waaaaaallll, I'll jess call up my good friends the Saudis and lean on em a little..."

Yeah, George. Sure you will.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:14 PM
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20. remember the slogan
part of the pro-war agenda: "whup ass, cheap gas" ??
hey, that didn't work out, either.
or did the Bushies mean gas would be cheap in Iraq? Maybe we misunderstood.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:27 PM
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43. Chimp-Supporters... "remember?!?" Naw, they No Can Do.
The only positive consolation is knowing only 30 percent of US are truly STUPID, after all.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:41 PM
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2. but... but... but... but
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 04:41 PM by Horse with no Name
the gasoline prices have been low until that bad bad hurricane Katrina came through and destroyed everything.
And the troops love it in Iraq--after all, they volunteered.:crazy::sarcasm:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:45 PM
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6. And many American families are proud to sacrifice a son or two for George
Because George is a man of God as was Jim Jones.

Don
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:50 PM
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10. got that right
:rofl:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:30 PM
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28. A slogan
Invest in business donate a Son or Daughter to Iraq
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:41 PM
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3. I wish I could..
just snap Chimpie and his evil minions out of the White House just like that that (snap)!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:44 PM
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4. snap snap snap

Let's snap his butt out of office.

We need a real President.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:44 PM
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5. Where's ...
Endora or Uncle Arthur when you need them...snap, snap, snap!
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:46 PM
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7. How's he still pulling 45%?!?
He should be down in the thirties on all of them (aside from the hard RW-funded polls)
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:17 PM
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21. he's in the low 30's
don't be bullshitted. :evilfrown:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:48 PM
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33. You are correct, jaysunb (n/t)
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:49 PM
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40. The ABC/Washington Post poll is worse than Gallup
Look up its history. It's a terrible poll. Always pro-Bush. That it has the Chimp at 45% is bad news indeed.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:49 PM
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8. "But I shortened my vacation. Sheesh!"
Until the waves rise up and wash him and his cohorts away, he'll just keep making the wrong moves.

Not meeting with Cindy Sheehan--bad move.

Forcing a so-called constitution down Iraqi throats just to hold meaningless referendum on time--bad move.

Letting the world go by without much involvement but lots of helicopter rotors whirring often--bad move.

And now reviving the Social Security "reform" push--bad move.

Does he really think anyone is going to care what he wants beyond those safe choir people he makes sure he preaches to every time he ventures beyond his bubble world?
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:50 PM
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9. Laura Bush, start packin'
Cuz yo boy ain't snappin', he gonna be steppin'
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:13 PM
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18. Actually, I'd prefer FROG-MARCHIN.'
PLEASE ADD THE FOLLOWING TO ANY conversation you have with ANYBODY about this. I don't even care, by now, if they did or didn't vote for him. If they didn't, so much the better because you will strengthen THEIR resolve to join the fight to oust bush. If they did, this MAY give them pause... and perhaps even a redemption from the Dark Side. CHECK THIS OUT. It's ESSENTIAL - a HUGE weapon in our expanding arsenal:

Bush has slashed Clinton's Disaster Mitigation Program. (unbelievable)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4482567
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:54 PM
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11. He doesn't care. He's stuffed enough money away for him and his
friends. that's all that really matters to him. He was "placed" there to take the heat and steal as much as he could.

Think Bush and his dark little creeps will suffer through the winter trying to heat their homes? feed their kids? pay the rent?

I hope they rot in hell.
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:56 PM
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12. Bottom line: last 4 polls ALL clock in at career low approval numbers
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:27 PM
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38. Bingo
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:46 PM
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44. And there's really nowhere to go but down.
Bitter comfort, that. I'd like to stuff *him* into that breach in the levee.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:59 PM
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13. You patronizing spineless little weasel
If we could snap our fingers and lower you into the depths of hell, you patronizing fool, the sound of "snappin'" in America would be deafening.



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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:00 PM
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14. ABC poll must be spotting him 10 points
for breathing. All other polls I've seen have his approval in the 30's
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:39 PM
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30. Oh, and don't forget:
it's "stable" so they say. Rating sucks but ABC has to point out whatever good they can to prop up the chimp.

I guess "stable" sounds good as opposed to "in free fall" which is what is probably happening now that gas prices are going to go much, much higher.

Enjoy, morans!!!
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bucknaked Donating Member (818 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:05 PM
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15. Remember the '00 call for a moratorium on Federal Gas Taxes by the right?
Boy, where are those same cries today? And what's different this time? hmmm...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:19 PM
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22. Yeah, and I remember the Windfall Profits Tax that Jimmy Carter
imposed on the oil industry during an oil crisis during his administration - to prevent the oil companies from profiting unfairly off an essential need of the citizenry. Really slammed 'em for price-gouging.

So FUCK IT. It CAN be done. Something can be done, george, and as "president," you are PERFECTLY positioned to issue an executive order about it. You just don't want to see your cronies and donors to share the pain from which the rest of us have to suffer.

He is PERFECTLY positioned as an oil man with a longtime family connection to the oil bidness to show some real leadership here, and compel the oil industry to help share the burden. Certainly they've received enough lopsided advantages from him by now to offset any shortfalls they'd experience, now, wouldn't they?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:12 PM
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17. It's all good as long as you're just killing other people's kids,
but, boy hit an American in the wallet and all hell breaks loose.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:14 PM
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19. What has he ever done that qualifies as a "career"?
Or perhaps they meant to be sarcastic.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:22 PM
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23. He went up to 45? How?
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:39 PM
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31. they must have used Diebold to tally the numbers....eom
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:40 PM
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32. Different Poll
Gallup is still 40%

He's down on all of the polls, regardless of bias.



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:30 PM
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39. ARG and Ipsos Reid have him under 40%.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:23 PM
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24. Bush has a career???? Wow.
The George Bush leadership style:

"I wish I could snap my fingers and lower the price of gasoline for you. The markets don't work that way. I'd be snappin' if I could do it." 8/2005
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:24 PM
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25. too bad Republicans didn't feel this way when Carter was President..
That view seems to run contrary to Bush's comment Monday: "I wish I could snap my fingers and lower the price of gasoline for you. The markets don't work that way. I'd be snappin' if I could do it."

How would these thin-skinned Republicans respond if Carter or Clinton ever said that? "There he goes again!! Blame the markets and voters, but he'll take no responsibility"
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lakercub Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:28 PM
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26. What a difference an election makes
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 05:34 PM by lakercub
That was then:

"What I think the president ought to do is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots. One reason why the price is so high is because the price of crude oil has been driven up. OPEC has gotten its supply act together, and it's driving the price, like it did in the past. And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0001/26/se.02.html

This is now:

"I wish I could snap my fingers and lower the price of gasoline for you. The markets don't work that way. I'd be snappin' if I could do it."

Hypocritical and disgusting. This man sinks to new lows every time he opens his mouth. We know why gas prices are what they are George. Gouging by you and your buddies...nothing else. If the world was completely at peace and there were no hurricanes at all, your boys would invent other reasons to raise oil prices.

How can this transparent robbery be going over so many heads?
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:35 PM
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29. He got what he wanted: another 4 years.
He turned his back on the christian right immediately after the second inauguration ceremony. And in all honesty I think you're right about him sinking to new lows every time he speaks. Just two weeks ago he was at 43% and I didn't think it would get any worse than that.

BTW, welcome to the underground.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:08 PM
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42. Welcome to DU!
Glad you're here. We need you! Especially now:

Bush has slashed Clinton's Disaster Mitigation Program. (unbelievable)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4482567


Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
Pass it on...
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 05:28 PM
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27. burn muthafucker, burn muthafucker
BURN YOU MUTHAFUCKER :grr:
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:07 PM
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34. Sick, Sick, Sick
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 06:09 PM by wiley
I am physically ill over what has been done to this country. Tens of millions of people are suffering and will suffer even more as Repuke aholes serve the interests of the wealthy ruling class of this country. People are being left to die for lack of basic resources while they consider making tax breaks permanent. Is anyone convinced that we are prepared for any type of threat, either natural or man made? Or are we just prepared to protect the interests and property of the wealthy? Does the Red Cross have enough Cajun speakers to even answer the desperate calls for help from all the poor people who are drowning down South? Trent Lott lost one of his houses? Who cares? The poor and less well off are always the ones without insurance, without the means to even evacuate the path of a storm. They have been drowning since 2000. Sorry, but Repukes just make me sick!
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:10 PM
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35. This is a friggen lie......
ABC always has to prop this asshole up. His numbers are in the thirties and don't forget it.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:14 PM
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36. bush focus?
that will be a new experience for him, won't it?
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:22 PM
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37. just wait til next week.
The flood waters will go down faster than his numbers will go up.drip drip drip drip...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 07:52 PM
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41. He's back up to 45 so he can slip to 36 again.
Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:47 PM
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45. 36 was a different poll, no?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:51 PM
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46. Yes.
It'll just take the American Bullshit Corporation a little longer to get there.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:52 PM
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47. ARE YOU PISSED? THEN GET YOUR ASS TO DC ON 9/24
This is going to be the Mother of all demonstrations.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:31 PM
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48. I say It's Way Lower. Gotta Be-At least In My Area.
Now, everyone is totally fed-up and I mean everyone. Gone are the flags and ribbons, too. People spout out, "And I'm a Republican no more," all of the time now. Then you hear the same follow-up: They oughta impeach the ba#tards!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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49. New poll finds Bush Iraq ratings down
New poll finds Bush Iraq ratings down
Reuters

Aug 30, 2005 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's approval rating slipped to a career low of 45 percent on concerns over the Iraq war and spiraling U.S. fuel prices, according to an ABC News/Washington Post poll published on Tuesday.

The poll of more than 1,000 people found that 57 percent disapprove of Bush's handling of the war and 68 percent regard the level of American casualties as unacceptable.

But a majority of respondents, 54 percent, said the United States should keep its forces in Iraq until civil order is restored. Fifty-nine percent said they do not think a deadline should be set for the withdrawal of U.S. troops.

Bush has rejected anti-war protesters' calls for a troop withdrawal and appealed to Americans not to waver because of the rising death toll, now nearly 1,900.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1082178
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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50. Even though this might be the latest breaking news...
it's not the latest breaking news. We've know this for a loooong time. Fuck Bush--and teh neo cons he rode in on.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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51. To the Hague with them! n/t
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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52. And this is without
being able to phone people in Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi! They could poll the NG from these states and see how they feel about Bu$h!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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53. To hell with him, no passing Go, straight to Hell ....
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:49 AM
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54. A career low of 45?
Surely it's been lower?

In any case, just wait until the Katrina costs start hitting the economy; more career lows for the hapless Texan ahead.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 09:56 AM
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55. And the war in Iraq gets another rationale
"Improving long-term U.S. security" is now the basic rationale for invading Iraq, according to the story. What will it be next week? To keep the Mongolian hordes at bay? Prevent the scary moonmen from launching their secret weapon? Finally settle the eternal question of who gets to be the top when George and Little Arfin' Annie hook up at last?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:42 AM
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56. If 9/11 had never happened his numbers would be even lower. n/t
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 11:51 AM
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57. I wish I could snap my fingers and lower the price of gasoline for you.
Bullshit, windfall profits for all of his buddies and no repercussions for them. That's why Reagan beat Carter because Carter actually cared about his people and tried to nail these oil assholes. They retaliated by election rigging.
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