Use of dubious tip points to clash between CIA, Iraq war supporters

[Pale Blue Dot]

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/7046008.htm

As the Bush administration intensified the hunt for evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the CIA reluctantly agreed to look into reports from a previously discredited source that highly enriched uranium for nuclear weapons was smuggled from Iraq to Iran, U.S. officials said.

The reports of the uranium transfer could not be verified, the officials said last week. The incident appears to be an example of supporters of President Bush's policy on Iraq clashing with the CIA over claims that the intelligence agency did not believe could be substantiated.

The smuggling reports were relayed by Manucher Ghorbanifar, an Iranian exile who maintains ties to neoconservatives inside and outside the U.S. government. Michael Ledeen, a National Security Council consultant during the Reagan administration and a longtime Ghorbanifar associate, recently pressed Ghorbanifar's information on the administration, the officials said. Ghorbanifar and Ledeen advocate the overthrow of the Iranian government.


Lots of great info in this article....

[oldcoot]

1. Good find!

A kick for those who are just waking up on the West Coast.

[UpInArms]

2. this mal-administration is infested with Iran-Contra figures

Otto Reich
Richard Armitage
John Negroponte
Colin Powell
Elliot Abrams
John Poindexter
Mitch Daniels


links to descriptions of roles:

http://www.fair.org/extra/0109/iran-contra.html

http://lists.democracygroups.org/pipermail/rightwatch/2001q2/000096.html

http://www.hereinreality.com/bigbrother.html

http://www.here-now.org/shows/2003/08/20030808_5.asp

http://www.toshiowhelchel.com/documents/IranContra/SCANDAL.htm

[0007]

6. They tried to squeeze

Henry Kissinger into the picture until they realized 'Henry had too much garbage and the smell was to strong.

[sattahipdeep]

8. Richard Armitage provision of weapons and war materiel

Another key player in the Bush Administration, Deputy Secretary of Defense Richard
Armitage, left his post as an Assistant Secretary of Defense in the Reagan
Administration after a series of scandals connected to CIA operatives Ed Wilson, Ted
Shackley, Richard Secord and Tom Clines placed him at the brink of criminal indictment
and jail. Shackley and Secord are veterans of Vietnam operations and have long been
linked to opium/heroin smuggling. The Armitage scandals all focused on the illegal
provision of weapons and war materiel to potential or actual enemies of the U.S. and to
the Contras in Central America.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_09_01_carlyle.html

[pansypoo53219]

11. so is

C. Boyden Gray(grey?). bet there are a damned sight more we never had the names for.

[Peachhead22]

3. "an exile with ties to the neo-cons"

"Fool me once..er, a fool can't get fooled again"--G.W. Bush

Guess again Shrub.

[tlcandie]

4. Anything to do with Ghorbanifar is bad news ...

Hoax, misinfo... all of it! That has already been proven many times. Can't they do better than this? :spank:

[oldcoot]

5. Apparently not!

Isn't it too bad that Bush can not be impeached for gross incompetence?

[tlcandie]

12. Ya, exactly what is the statement made by this country when

you can be impeached for a blow job (and lying about this personal issue), but not for incompetence lying about international and national issues, cheating, fraud, stealing and such?

What is the message? Wait, I think I've got it..

Anything is okay. The end justifies the means, but we will NOT have anything related to SEX or sexuality PERIOD...end of discussion!

Puritanical, bigoted, hypocritical thieves!

[oldcoot]

17. It is so frustrating!

I think that part of the problem is that Clinton's scandal is easier for people to understand than Bush's scandals. Unfortunately, the news media does not even try to provide Americans with important information about what is happening in the U.S. or the world. Instead we are bombarded with coverage of sex scandals and sensational trials. I often wonder if we ever would have heard about "Watergate" if CNN, Fox, and MSNBC existed during the Nixon administration.

[librechik]

7. "CIA Director George Tenet were never told of Ghorbanifar's involvement"

True?

[tlcandie]

13. No, they all know. I've read about it somewhere in some link

librechik, but I don't have them at my disposal. Everyone, hell even DUers, know that he isn't worth his weight in anything...even dustbunnies.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. Absolutely true, but the key word is "told"...

Tenet, and by default the CIA, was never told about Ghorbanifar's involvement in the latest attempt by the NeoCon's to push the U. S. into another country in the Middle East. But, that doesn't mean the CIA had no knowledge of Ghorbanifar's activities in regards to his dealings with the NeoCons. The fact that Ghorbanifar was placed on a CIA "burn list" tells me that his every move has been watched by the CIA, along with the movements of all of those people associated with him.

Don't forget that the CIA, because of the Wilson-Plame Affair, is now engaged in a war to bring down the Bushies. This is just another salvo fired by the CIA in that war. The recent articles in the mainstream press about Prescott Bush's financial dealings with the Nazis is another of those attacks. George Bush's presence in Ft. Worth and Dallas, Texas, on November 21/22, 1963, is another one. And they haven't even gotten started on Junior. There is quite a bit more information on the Bushies locked away in the CIA's vaults...we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg.

The last two presidents to attempt to do battle with the CIA did not survive their current terms in office...JFK in 1963, and Nixon in 1974.

[The Commie]

18. Tenet

Bush is using Tenet as a scapegoat because he knows Tenet can bring the Bush Dictatorship down.

:shrug:

[teryang]

9. Ledeen advocates overthrow of USA

<Ghorbanifar and Ledeen advocate the overthrow of the Iranian government.>

[pansypoo53219]

10. the CIA

will make sure that george does not go into Iran on false crap. been burned by iWaq.

Bush is an idiot. he bought chalabi's 'magic' lima beans, so what is this guy gonna get for HIS 'magic' lima beans

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

14. This admin is so hungry to believe the worst that they would

believe a report that Saddam and Osama are hiding out in the Invisible Islamic Mothership floating over the North Pole.

Truth doesn't seem to matter.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. It's not about "believing" anything at all. They will use anything to...

...advance the NeoCon plans for the domination of the Middle East.