Bush gives new reason for Iraq war

[Gasping4Truth]

From the Boston Globe article:
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CORONADO, Calif. -- President Bush answered growing antiwar protests yesterday with a fresh reason for US troops to continue fighting in Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields, which he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists.

The president, standing against a backdrop of the USS Ronald Reagan, the newest aircraft carrier in the Navy's fleet, said terrorists would be denied their goal of making Iraq a base from which to recruit followers, train them, and finance attacks.

''We will defeat the terrorists," Bush said. ''We will build a free Iraq that will fight terrorists instead of giving them aid and sanctuary."

''If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. ''They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition."

[maddezmom]

1. it took him long enough to admit it

what a jackass. :puke: Perhaps the reason they are fighting so hard is they don't want the US to control the OIL?

[radfringe]

12. ummmm.....

the oil fields wouldn't have been in danger of "terra"ists if we hadn't invaded...

but - I'm glad to see that he has finally admitted we invaded for the oil

[niceypoo]

70. The logic has come full circular

We have to keep the terrorists that we created from grabbing the oil that we lib'rated in the war that we started. The war must go on for it to stop. Up is down. War is peace......

[VegasWolf]

42. Geez, Bush FINALLY speaks the truth. It's ALL about OIL! nt

[chomskysright]

58. How many soldiers/ gallon does your SUV get?

[smirkymonkey]

60. That is a powerful statement/slogan.

Would make a great bumper sticker - it might finally help some of these "patriotic" morons to connect the dots.

[Arkansas Granny]

62. Finally, he tells the truth! Now, how many of you out there

knew this long before the invasion? Do I see a show of hands?

[saigon68]

2. "WE MUST KEEP THE OIL FIELDS SAFE FOR HALLIBURTON AND EXXON", he drooled

"Then you can continue to drive your SUVs and Campers that get 10 MPG", he continued.

[AtomicKitten]

3. Pot-Kettle-Black

Just read this.
What an a-hole.
So, is that reason #54 or #55?

[Pachamama]

4. So, George finally admits to the REAL reason we went to Iraq..

:eyes:

[punpirate]

5. `Bout time for the public...

... to tell this man what he is--a fuckin' asshole not worthy of the title President.

He is an asshole of the nth degree.

[ClintonTyree]

6. These are all excuses...........

not reasons. There has yet to be a good REASON for invading Iraq.
It took a devastating storm and dwindling oil supplies for him to admit what we've known all along; it's all about the oil. He feels safe stating this now because we're heading up shit creek without a paddle.

[tonie61]

59. All this death and suffering for W to gain politically!

If you can see through the subterfuge “Mission Accomplished” “Operation Iraqi Freedom” translates into W “has destabilized the Middle East”.

Why?

The CounterPunch March 14, 2003 article “GOP Memo: New Product Ready to Launch--The Roll Out for the War on Saddam” states "From a marketing point of view, you don't introduce new products in August."

White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card in 2003, explaining why "Project Stampede America Into Iraq War II" was introduced in September.

MEMO FROM: KARL ROVE
TO: ALL CONCERNED (EYES ONLY, BURN BAG)
RE: NEW PRODUCT LAUNCH
First of all, GREAT JOB, PEOPLE! Our dynamic Iraq War Product is just
about ready to go! Think of what we've achieved in less than a year! We've
managed to:
*Demonize Democrats as "objectively pro-Saddam, terrorist-loving traitors"
when they've dared oppose us!
*Take America's Mind Off the Crappy Economy!
*Find A Great Reason To Stop Mentioning Bin Laden!
*Rally Our Wingnut Base!
*Keep Our Defense Contractor Campaign Contributors In Ecstasy!
*Trash NATO, AND the UN!”

All of his advisors, current events and history warned W that this Iraq tragedy would play out as terribly as it. That didn’t deter W!

For W, and his brain, Rove this massacre of poor Iraqis and our dear boys and girls in the military this is just another chapter in his “Mission Accomplished” “Arabian Nights” fantasy/nightmare. The only people who have previously believed his lies, “thickly painted over with unending coats of misinformation” have to believe that two sets of Iraqis, the Shia and the Kurds, who have been persecuted by Sunni Baathists, will not attempt to re-pay every atrocity committed against them. Why wouldn’t they exact revenge against the Sunnis? And they are getting their revenge in the draft they agreed upon, without Sunni participation by the way. What the draft of the constitution does is put the Sunnis into a spiral of death and destruction, with no resources or source of income. The former ruling party members will have no alternative other than to attack innocent Iraqis and our dear US boys and girls, soldiers in a war they can’t win.

[Amonester]

75. Welcome to DU, tonie61!

:hi:

You will find a lot of like minded (and good) people here who really care for the US and the world, as both are being put at risk by the neocon dominator wannabes.

[KT2000]

7. He thinks the people

will accept that reason now due to rising gas prices.

[Zech Marquis]

8. NO and the gulf states need all the help they can get

but * cries about keepng the Iraqis and Osama from the oil fields :grr:

[tabasco]

37. OMG ! The "terrorists" already have an oil tanker ready !

[KansDem]

69. You got it!

My thought exactly. Now the 'Muricans will accept the high price of gasoline, because it's now linked directly with "terrorism!"

MAN! Can this fool be any more transparent?!?!?

[mallard]

72. His advisors think the people will

accept that reason now that the addiction and the supply line are out of kilter.

I agree with your point. It's because of the rising prices and also in the wake of fears with Katrina. Using fear again and very opportunistic considering there were no terrorism issues in Iraq before W & Co faked reasons to invade.

[Kindigger]

9. Is there ten yet?

for David Letterman...I've lost count.

[OneAngryDemocrat]

10. Bush Says US must prevent oil fields from falling into hands of terrorists

''If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. ''They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war/

[lvx35]

11. This is a dupe, but its now the top story on google US. nt

[leftchick]

13. there you have it. The USA is the real terrorists in Iraq

trying to steal their oil. At least the Iraqis now are hearing our little king admit it. I know it will go right over the heads of murkins.

[saigon68]

15. Morning LC

See--- what did I say on Saturday. I was afraid very afraid.

P.S. Gas in DePere WI (a suburb of Green Bay) is $3.05 a gallon.

[leftchick]

16. good morning saigon

you were indeed correct. I filled up my van yesterday and paid 41.05.
That is before the latest increase. I don't know how low income folks are going to handle this. :(

[saigon68]

17. Its not going to be pretty

I wonder how Rove will spin this to take the heat off THE AWOL CHIMPANZEE?

[leftchick]

18. check this out. Refinery flooded...

An oil refinery is submerged in water in Codin, Alabama, August 30, 2005. Oil prices scrambled back towards their fresh high above $70 on Wednesday as dealers feared a sharp squeeze on fuel supplies after Hurricane Katrina shut down vital U.S. Gulf Coast refineries and offshore production platforms. REUTERS/Marc Serota

[saigon68]

19. That's one nasty mess.

Imagine all the sludge floating into the river. YUK

[truthisfreedom]

14. so bush is afraid that extremists can actually sell Iraqi oil at a profit,

even as our own efforts couldn't even use Iraqi oil to pay for the illegal war, as BUSH PROMISED?

he's a pack of lies wrapped in a tissue pile of lies lying in a pool of gasoline lies.

[ChrisK]

20. A few things

The law thats being set in Iraq right now (Shara I think its spelled, Islamic law) is the same one that was in place in Afghanistan when al Qaeda was training people at there camps as terrorist so the whole "build a free Iraq" isn't panning out all that well because it will be a matter of time before we see the same type of trouble that was going on in Afghanistan to come Iraq's way....and subsequently ours as well, in the form of new terrorists but this time they WILL have Iraq citizenship, not Saudi like fifteen of the nineteen did on 9/11.

They don't need to "claim(ing) a historic victory over the United States and our coalition" to "recruit more terrorists"..the war in Iraq is doing that all by itself so the logic, if one can call it that, has failed.

Why would they need to seize oil fields when there being funded by people sympathetic to there cause right now? and when will the U.S. government ask people like the Saudis to stop funding them like they have been for years? I'm sure we have "asked" but I mean REALLY crack down on there support for terrorists, or are the pay-offs more "protection money" of sorts?

[Walt Starr]

21. So now, the reason given by protesters for NOT going into Iraq

has become the asshole's reason for staying.

:puke:

[sniffa]

22. ding ding ding

:eyes:

[leftchick]

27. terrible irony abounds in bush world

daily. :puke:

[UpInArms]

30. Long live Irony! Irony is Dead!

:cry:

[HereSince1628]

23. Now, change the name back to Operation Iraq Liberation= OIL

So, we have gone in a complete circle. If this was a horse race we'd say it's over.

But in the world of NASCAR dads for freedom, I suppose we'll have to do a hundred laps or so.

[Stockholm]

24. US soldiers being used as oil company mercenaries... n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

25. Oh yeah...the OIL!

Forgot about that. :eyes:

[no_to_war_economy]

26. Oil Brigade 4th Company Halliburton Division reporting for duty!

[dean_dem]

28. This is probably the closest to the ACTUAL reason...

...that he's going to get. It still reeks of BS, but he's getting closer.

[skypilot]

39. The only problem is...

...that by invading Iraq in the first place he helped create the conditions that would make it possible for Iraq's oil field to fall into the hands of terrorists.

[Corgigal]

29. Didn't your dad already tell you this?

Years ago. He knew why they didn't go into Iraq and made the right choice. Of course your more macho, so you had to prove Daddy wrong.

Actually you proved Daddy right. Thanks for making America safer.

[Chemical Bill]

31. And if we didn't use so much oil.... n/t

[bamacrat]

32. The truth is finally starting to leak out.

[many a good man]

33. If he calls this "PROTECTING" the oil fields...n/t

[defiant1]

34. Thanks for the update George!!!

:puke:

[info being]

35. Sad situation. Saddam was doing a better job of that.

Saddam kept the oil fields available and all we had to do is buy it...not invest our nation's future into running another country.

[atommom]

36. ... because the needs and the ambitions of Americans are so much

more important than the lives of those brown people over there who live on top of our oil. :sarcasm:

The sheer evil of it all is hard to take in.

[UrbScotty]

38. I guess WMDs and "liberation" didn't work as excuses, huh?

BTW... Why did another Michigan soldier die recently?

:mad:

[LeftHander]

40. So cutting funding to protect New Orleans...

Would result in a catastophe (if it happened)....that would result in higher gas prices...just in time to roll out the new justification for stayin in Iraq. What opportunists. they spin that shit happens and gas goes up so we need to protect the oil fields now.

Driving up the need for gasoline and oil seems to be the common thread. Whatever makes gas prices climb works for the Amdinistration.

[Done]

41. OMG!!!, surely we didn't do this for the oil!!!

[VegasWolf]

43. Excuse du jour? nt

[Dr Fate]

44. "It's about the oil." n/t

n/t

[sunnystarr]

45. I am so fuckin pissed at this part of article

Cindy Sheehan arrived in Crawford only days after Bush did, asking for a meeting so he could explain why her son and others are dying in Iraq. The White House refused, and Sheehan's camp turned into a hub of activity for hundreds of activists around the country demanding that troops be brought home.

HUNDREDS???????? Try THOUSANDS you Boston Globe FUCKTARD !!!

I am so SICK of outright lies being dished out not to mention the things they WON'T EVEN PRINT!!!!

[spooked911]

46. Bush gives new reason for Iraq war (OIL)

Bush gives new reason for Iraq war
Says US must prevent oil fields from falling into hands of terrorists

By Jennifer Loven, Associated Press  |  August 31, 2005
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war?mode=PF

CORONADO, Calif. -- President Bush answered growing antiwar protests yesterday with a fresh reason for US troops to continue fighting in Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields, which he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists.

The president, standing against a backdrop of the USS Ronald Reagan, the newest aircraft carrier in the Navy's fleet, said terrorists would be denied their goal of making Iraq a base from which to recruit followers, train them, and finance attacks.

''We will defeat the terrorists," Bush said. ''We will build a free Iraq that will fight terrorists instead of giving them aid and sanctuary."
(snip)
''If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. ''They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition." 

[xultar]

47. So, the truth will set you free. NOT!

[Kikosexy2]

48. Would you..

call this the whole truth or a half truth?

[physioex]

52. I'd call it a moving target.....

Wait till next week, I sure there will be another "good reason"....

[Massachusetts]

49. protection of the country's vast oil fields

Oh, that must be the small print in the Energy Bill.

[TroglodyteScholar]

50. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1739440">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1739440

[spooked911]

51. sorry, duplicate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1739440&mesg_id=1739440

[kansasblue]

53. getting closer to the truth.

[Eurobabe]

54. he desperate, he desperate!!

POLL NUMBERS SINKING....by the nanosecond.

[Ilsa]

55. Too little too late to regain the trust.

This was a policy that should have been discussed by the public: "Is it okay to send soldiers to die for oil when Americans refuse to conserve?" And "What can we do as a nation to prevent our young men and women from having to die for a commodity?" This is what we as a nation should have been talking about, not the bullshit WMD.

[flaminbats]

76. how nice, higher gas prices and nonstop war!!!

when is casus belli ever presented in good faith?

[flordehinojos]

56. the psalmist had bush's number way back then in, THE DECEITFUL TONGUE

psalm 52

I

Why do you glory in evil,
you champion of infamy?
All the day you plot harm;
your tongue is like a sharpened razor, you practiced deceiver!
You love evil rather than good,
falsehood rather than honest speech
You love all that means ruin,
you of the deceitful tongue .

(snip)

[Gregorian]

57. What about FREEDOM?

So, what are the Freetards going to say now??????

I just got off the phone with one who said "IT ISN'T ABOUT OIL. IT'S ABOUT TERRORISM".

Oh I get it. It's about oil AND terrorism. Next it's going to be about oil, freedom, terrorism, and who knows whatever propaganda is fit to crank through your phoney conservative media.

[Jacobin]

61. Um, that would have been a reason NOT to depose Saddam

Bush is such a fuckwad

[yurbud]

63. NOW will Democrats have cajones to talk about oil motive?

the Bushies may be failing, but it's hard to see the public turning to a party that is pro-war, liars, AND cowards.

I wrote the Senate foreign relations committee on this last weekend.

[triguy46]

64. And thus, the 08 campaign begins

With the promise of protecting iraqi oil, the SUV addicted populace will fall victim to lies and deceit once again...as * said in '00, "You can have it all!"

[Megahurtz]

65. I can't believe he was stupid enough to admit it! n/t

[sakabatou]

66. So now he tells the turth... sorta

[Maggie_May]

67. How many have to die for oil?

[Cocoa]

68. kick

:kick:

[despairing optimist]

71. Didn't terrorist extremists order Shock and Awe? I'm confused, Alice

Where's the Cheshire Cat?

[shanti]

73. oh the HUBRIS!!!!

:grr: he just jumped on katrina's horror to ply more of his goddam occupation!

[kostya]

74. But, ends it with the same old lie...

''We will defeat the terrorists," Bush said. ''We will build a free Iraq that will fight terrorists instead of giving them aid and sanctuary."

Err, there he goes again. There were no terrorists of significance before we got there. - K

[NVMojo]

77. ...bush is not seizing oil fields to fund his ambitions? Whack job.

[calimary]

78. Welcome to DU!

Good post. Yeah, he finally sort of comes clean. Or, hey, kids, it's time for "Name that War Rationale!" Let's all guess which excuse they're sending around this week!

[pinniped]

79. The oil is already under the control of terrorist extremists in the wh.

Someone get this psycho POS a straight jacket.

Tune in folks, we are witnessing the meltdown of a true piece of shit.

[applegrove]

80. I think that is finally actually the truth. That is their worst fear. But

the boy cried wolf. And only one bit of it.

[NNN0LHI]

81. kick

[tom_paine]

82. They MUST be getting desperate if they resorted to telling the truth

Yep. It's about the oil and always was.

Of course, the REAL TRUTH that underlies that one, and which can never be spoken, is that the war was about stealing the '02 and '04 election, and about looting TRILLIONS from both the Iraqi Subjects of Amerika and the Amerikan Subjects of Amerika.

To further reduce the Imperial Subjects of Amerika to vassals and slaves, and to create a plausible side-story about why we just can;t seem to get our hands on that Bin Laden fellow.