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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:38 AM
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Papers hail heroes but blast Bush

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4204292.stm

Papers hail heroes but blast Bush

Even as US newspapers report the unfolding disaster in New Orleans and the US Gulf Coast following Hurricane Katrina, some are apportioning blame for the extent of the devastation.

The Washington Post says

...

"A huge chunk of America's heritage - the remnants of what was once France's largest North American colony, a Creole culture unique on this continent - is in severe jeopardy," it says.

It, too, praises "admirable" heroism and generosity in response to the catastrophe.

...

Other papers are more scathing.

"George W Bush gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday," says the New York Times in an editorial.

...

"And nothing about the president's demeanour yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."


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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:41 AM
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1. Has the Rove & co. propaganda machine just given up?
It seems like they don't even try anymore. They used to at least pretend they cared about this country, maybe they realize no one is falling for it anymore and they have just given up.

Rack up another clusterfuck courtesy of bush** and his useless administration.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:52 AM
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3. The are the Untouchables now.
They think they can do anything they want and the sheeple will fall in behind.
They aren't too far off.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:15 AM
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5. You've put your finger on it
They're untouchable even if the sheeple don't quite fall in line. Crooked elections mean they don't have to care about anything.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:48 PM
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39. Oh yeah? Well, I still care, and I'm not gonna let up.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 06:49 PM by calimary
VISUALIZE IMPEACHMENT, EVERYBODY!!!!!!!

Sorry to yell, but I'M YELLING!!!!!!!!

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!
And REMOVAL FROM OFFICE!!!!!!!!!
Then go DO something about it.

Does make me wonder, by the way, how big that anti-war, and anti-bush rally in Washington will be, later this month. LOTS more people have a bone to pick with this little shithead.

BTW - don't you love how the NYTimes faulted bush for making a lousy speech?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??! WTF??!??!?!?!?!?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:11 PM
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30. Tesla, I'm sick of this slander against the American people
--calling them "sheeple."

58% of the American people opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. Feb. '03. I'll never forget that stat. Before all the lies were exposed; before the full horror and costs of it were known. Across the board in all polls. 58%! That number dipped only once, during the few weeks of the invasion with U.S. troops at max risk, then went right back up to nearly 60%, where it stayed throughout the presidential campaign. It's over 70% today. The American people have NEVER supported this war.

And if you look at the issue polls over the last year, you find that the great majority of Americans oppose every major Bush policy, foreign and domestic, way up in the 60% to 70% range. You name it. The Iraq war. Torture policy. Social Security. The deficit. Women's rights. It's amazing, really.

And on top of this are Bush's approval rating polls, so low leading up to the election that Zogby said he couldn't win--at a miserable 49% on the very day of his inauguration (unprecedented for recently reelected, 2nd term president) and now sunk to the low 30s.

And on top of that, the exit polls on election day, saying Kerry won--falsified by the TV news monopolies on election night, who "adjusted" their exit polls (Kerry won) to fit the "official tally" coming from Diebold's and ES&S's SECRET, PROPRIETARY vote tabulation formulae (Bush won).

The American people are not stupid, and they are not "sheeple." What they are is disempowered and DISENFRANCHISED.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:11 PM
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34. and they are not allowed to leave a paper trail

therefore Bush WINS!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:34 PM
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36. If it walks like a sheeple, talks like a sheeple
then it's a sheeple. I don't like it but that's the way it is. foar too many of them act like sheeple.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:25 AM
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18. "Compassionate Conservatism" will only take you so far. n/t
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:27 AM
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19. It is very dangerous, if the BA doesn't bother to lie anymore...
They think they have a lock on opposition.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:43 AM
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2. Usuaully the New York Times is not so blunt
That paper can be annoyingly demure, even when expressing a liberal point of view. Such language was refreshing for a change.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:40 AM
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22. VERY Refreshing!
"The Worst speech of his life(miserable)"!!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:14 AM
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4. The king of vacations
with the rancher mentality is getting trashed.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:24 AM
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6. He is sending his elderly daddy down there
instead of someone like, I don't know, Cheney!! Himself!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:33 AM
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7. ....its hard work being the president. I have to get on with my
life. I'm gonna give another speech this afternoon to straighten out out the nay sayers. God Bless American. Let's Roll!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:22 AM
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8. Nominated -- I think this is very significant from our print press...
If only TV news would acknowledge this stunning failure of leadership and governance....
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:37 AM
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9. I second that nomination....
Damn chimp!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:44 AM
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10. Too Bad They Don't Care, That's Why Chimpy's Speech Sucked...
No reelection to worry about. And they know they've got rigging elections down pat now, so the future looks bright...For them and theirs.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:58 AM
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11. They did on Sept 12, 2001 as well but....
we all know what happened then: the PR machine kicked into gear, he stood on the graves of the lost with that stupid bullhorn and now he's a little tin God.

I'll believe he's in the shit when this goes on for a week without a comparison to Churchill.
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:01 AM
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12. It wasn't Sept 12 but a couple days later ...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 10:01 AM by phatkatt
Idiot was MIA for like three days after 9/11. Bill Clinton was in Australia on 9/11 and was in NYC before our supposed leader.

But, you're right about the PR machine. Now they'll blow sunshine up his rear for cutting his vacation a day short. What a great leader!
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:23 AM
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13. President showed...
no appreciation for what these poor people are going through.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:51 AM
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17. Maybe not. Trouble is, he can't blame this one on the "evildoers"
and he can't rally the base by calling for (someone else to take care of, but) payback.
Which means he's coming up blank. At least he gets a little fire in his eyes with the righteous violence thing. This calls for patience and compassion and competence, none of which he has.

Oh, yeah, and: there isn't enough money/resources to fix this, hell to have prevented the worst of the damage in the first place, and it's all his fault, pretty much. So.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:48 PM
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27. This New Orleans Catastrophe WAS LIHOP
Not one reasonable step of preparedness or prevention was taken, even though national security and homeland defense woulld be the outcome. Budgets were cut, programs cancelled, and existing protections gutted. He let it happen, on purpose.

This is a high crime, if ever there was one. Will the GOP compound it by refusing to investigate and impeach Bush?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:48 PM
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28. This New Orleans Catastrophe WAS LIHOP
Not one reasonable step of preparedness or prevention was taken, even though national security and homeland defense woulld be the outcome. Budgets were cut, programs cancelled, and existing protections gutted. He let it happen, on purpose.

This is a high crime, if ever there was one. Will the GOP compound it by refusing to investigate and impeach Bush?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:14 PM
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35. Could even be MIHOP

they had a choice to fund the leavees or the war.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:24 AM
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14. The golfing was over-the-top.
This is truly the "imperial presidency." He has little understanding that this is a republic--or is it?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:44 AM
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16. Has anyone got proof of the golfing?
I believe you all, I just like to get a solid link that I could forward on to local media.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:34 AM
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15. "casual to the point of carelessness" sums up bush... a year of vacations
in his first 5 years of presidency. the casual president.




" ...what, me worry? "
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:28 AM
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20. And yet there are still the purists here who say "Don't bash Bush!"
The spin machine is going to have to go into absolute top gear.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:38 AM
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21. Like we were sayin'...
"SOMEWHERE IN TEXAS A VILLAGE IS MISSING AN IDIOT"!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:50 AM
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23. I think that saying is a little bit silly
as a resident of Texas I have observed millions of idiots here
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:01 PM
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24. But, since it has reached
bumpersticker status..everyone knows just exactly who we're talkin' about.."The Idiot".
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:45 PM
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25. oh tell me about it zidzi
I've been putting up with that IDIOT for over a DECADE now............OMG his performance over Katrina - is THAT what it takes for the little bastard to cut short his vacation? THIS KIND OF DESTRUCTION? OMG I just can't take much more zidzi. :o
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:36 PM
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37. It takes Terri Schiavo for * to cut short his vacation in a timely manner
(When I say "timely" I don't mean appropriate. Just prompt.)

I hope that pictures of him doing his cake-cutting and guitar-playing are displayed far and wide once the emergency is over, when the utter carelessness with which this disaster was handled should become the next issue. This should be coupled with how millions of dollars were diverted from fortifying the levees to Iraq.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:34 PM
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32. Thanks for that. Only laugh I've had all day.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:42 PM
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26. Another 'worst' among the worst of speeches--rally and unite the country?
Who...him?
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:02 PM
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29. He's lost it
Just watched his little speech and he obviously has lost the ability to function. He could barely read. Proof being he wouldn't let Bush 41 or Clinton speak though they were standing there and obviously expected to and all the press there thought they would speak. The idiot spoke and then walked off without another word and left Poppy and Clinton just standing.

For the good of the country his condition has to be out in the open
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:39 PM
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33. "For the good of the country his condition has to be out in the open"
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:41 PM by ElectroPrincess
It's called "presenile dementia" and his doctor(s) should know all about this condition. Who will be held responsible for keeping an incompetent President in office?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:32 PM
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31. The last posted editorial was the most grounding of them all.
"And nothing about the president's demeanour yesterday - which seemed casual to the point of carelessness - suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis."

Plainly said he is a dimwit!
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:41 PM
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38. I really miss Clinton as president in situations like this

He seemed to be so much more organized and hands on. Also we probably would be able to call out the Army AND Guard- they wouldn't be in Iraq.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:34 PM
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40. Bush has proven once again that he's a sociopath
People have to be blind at this point not to see it.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:44 PM
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41. Don't they know Big Brother is watching!
It's Goldstein!!!!!!

Hahahahahahaha maybe it's over for him. :bounce:
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